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stlseeeek 08-28-2021 03:45 PM

Now that is one of my worst bad beats (Firenze Fire)
 
He was going to win the race, until he started attacking the 7 horse, and still came back and lost by a half a head


that will go down as one of worst beats ever

jameegray1 08-28-2021 03:48 PM

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Fight night!

stlseeeek 08-28-2021 03:51 PM

He was going to win by a long neck at the least.


v j stauffer 08-28-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stlseeeek (Post 2750091)
He was going to win the race, until he started attacking the 7 horse, and still came back and lost by a half a head


that will go down as one of worst beats ever

I don't think he was going to win. I think he did that (savage) because he was frustrated he couldn't get by.

castaway01 08-28-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750133)
I don't think he was going to win. I think he did that (savage) because he was frustrated he couldn't get by.

I assume if FF did go by after that, he would have come down anyway? I've never seen a horse try to bite another six times in a row.

The Arbiter 08-28-2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by castaway01 (Post 2750143)
I assume if FF did go by after that, he would have come down anyway? I've never seen a horse try to bite another six times in a row.


OP is saying if he didn't go in for the savage at all, he would have won. But yes, once he did it, if FF did go by, I think that was a guaranteed DQ.

v j stauffer 08-28-2021 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by castaway01 (Post 2750143)
I assume if FF did go by after that, he would have come down anyway? I've never seen a horse try to bite another six times in a row.

The rule would be the same as any other racing incident. Did the offending horse cost a rival an opportunity for a better placing. From what I saw it might have depended on the margin of victory. I didn't see much to warrant a DQ.

thaskalos 08-28-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750155)
The rule would be the same as any other racing incident. Did the offending horse cost a rival an opportunity for a better placing. From what I saw it might have depended on the margin of victory. I didn't see much to warrant a DQ.

Could it be that your eyeglass prescription has changed?

Karakorum Kabbage 08-28-2021 05:53 PM

Note to OP: The horse you have in your thread title hasn't raced in :10: years :D ;)

Zman179 08-28-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stlseeeek (Post 2750091)
He was going to win the race, until he started attacking the 7 horse, and still came back and lost by a half a head


that will go down as one of worst beats ever

He was definitely by him and would have won had he not had a sudden urge for a snack. I feel for ya, that was a bad beat.

Zman179 08-28-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750155)
The rule would be the same as any other racing incident. Did the offending horse cost a rival an opportunity for a better placing. From what I saw it might have depended on the margin of victory. I didn't see much to warrant a DQ.

I agree. Trying to savage is different from actually savaging and making contact.

Edit: I saw the head on and the horse did bite and pull on the 7’s bridle. I think it would have warranted a DQ considering the winning margin would have been very small.

thaskalos 08-28-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zman179 (Post 2750188)
I agree. Trying to savage is different from actually savaging and making contact.

Edit: I saw the head on and the horse did bite and pull on the 7’s bridle. I think it would have warranted a DQ considering the winning margin would have been very small.

Not only did the horse bite the other horse and tug on its bridle...it was also leaning on the rival horse during the entire incident. If that horse won and wasn't disqualified...then NO horse ever deserves to be disqualified, IMO.

v j stauffer 08-28-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750155)
The rule would be the same as any other racing incident. Did the offending horse cost a rival an opportunity for a better placing. From what I saw it might have depended on the margin of victory. I didn't see much to warrant a DQ.

I never watched the head on. I'll take your word for it. I was too busy watching Ryan Moore get absolutely undressed by Joel Rosario costing me $7100.00 in the Horse Tourneys Pick N Pray.

Tragic! :puke:

thaskalos 08-28-2021 07:24 PM

HorseTourneys deserve way more customers than they currently have...IMO. :ThmbUp:

v j stauffer 08-28-2021 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2750224)
HorseTourneys deserve way more customers than they currently have...IMO. :ThmbUp:

I'm all for that.

molson721 08-28-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750218)
I never watched the head on. I'll take your word for it. I was too busy watching Ryan Moore get absolutely undressed by Joel Rosario costing me $7100.00 in the Horse Tourneys Pick N Pray.

Tragic! :puke:

I lose all respect for people who discuss their financials on public forums. Then again, many of your posts here have cost me to lose any respect I might have had for you. Do you feel the need to do this because you were a semi(?) celebrity and still feel the need to be recognized?


Hey Vic, do you want to here about my stock market trades in the last year involving the stock Nvidia? Maybe I should post "I lost $7100 on a bad ride but that is OK with me, I made lots of money on my stock investments!" You didn't make any comments about stock trades but you sound just as arrogant!.


Do I feel the need to discuss that on anonymous racing message message boards? NO


Do I feel it is important for people to know what I might have won on any bets I made on racing? NO



Check your ego at the door. You call races and you don't cure diseases or feed the poor. You are not as important in this world as you think you are!


Good advice you posted here telling Joel Rosario to not leave California! Do you remember that Vic race caller guy? Once again, CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!


I am sure the few sycophants you have here will attack me. Enjoy them and let them feed your ego. Your EGO is larger than your talent is needed in the real world!

JustRalph 08-28-2021 09:45 PM

Wow!

Vic you bastard! :lol:

v j stauffer 08-28-2021 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by molson721 (Post 2750237)
I lose all respect for people who discuss their financials on public forums. Then again, many of your posts here have cost me to lose any respect I might have had for you. Do you feel the need to do this because you were a semi(?) celebrity and still feel the need to be recognized?


Hey Vic, do you want to here about my stock market trades in the last year involving the stock Nvidia? Maybe I should post "I lost $7100 on a bad ride but that is OK with me, I made lots of money on my stock investments!" You didn't make any comments about stock trades but you sound just as arrogant!.


Do I feel the need to discuss that on anonymous racing message message boards? NO


Do I feel it is important for people to know what I might have won on any bets I made on racing? NO



Check your ego at the door. You call races and you don't cure diseases or feed the poor. You are not as important in this world as you think you are!


Good advice you posted here telling Joel Rosario to not leave California! Do you remember that Vic race caller guy? Once again, CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!


I am sure the few sycophants you have here will attack me. Enjoy them and let them feed your ego. Your EGO is larger than your talent is needed in the real world!

You need a Hug.

Elkchester Road 08-28-2021 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750263)
You need a Hug.

:D:D

thespaah 08-28-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jameegray1 (Post 2750094)
Fight night!

Rule number one...Never talk about fight club

thespaah 08-28-2021 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by molson721 (Post 2750237)
I lose all respect for people who discuss their financials on public forums. Then again, many of your posts here have cost me to lose any respect I might have had for you. Do you feel the need to do this because you were a semi(?) celebrity and still feel the need to be recognized?


Hey Vic, do you want to here about my stock market trades in the last year involving the stock Nvidia? Maybe I should post "I lost $7100 on a bad ride but that is OK with me, I made lots of money on my stock investments!" You didn't make any comments about stock trades but you sound just as arrogant!.


Do I feel the need to discuss that on anonymous racing message message boards? NO


Do I feel it is important for people to know what I might have won on any bets I made on racing? NO



Check your ego at the door. You call races and you don't cure diseases or feed the poor. You are not as important in this world as you think you are!


Good advice you posted here telling Joel Rosario to not leave California! Do you remember that Vic race caller guy? Once again, CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!


I am sure the few sycophants you have here will attack me. Enjoy them and let them feed your ego. Your EGO is larger than your talent is needed in the real world!

Seriously?
This is you..."I'm going to attack a member while announcing I may be attacked".
You're a miracle

The Arbiter 08-29-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by molson721 (Post 2750237)
Hey Vic, do you want to here about my stock market trades in the last year involving the stock Nvidia? Maybe I should post "I lost $7100 on a bad ride but that is OK with me, I made lots of money on my stock investments!" You didn't make any comments about stock trades but you sound just as arrogant!.


I think that would be perfectly normal on a stock forum. Likewise talking about horse winnings/losings on here..

Tom 08-29-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2750262)
Wow!

Vic you bastard! :lol:

Bite him!
Bite him! :lol:

castaway01 08-30-2021 09:36 AM

First Firenze Fire savages Yaupon.
Then Molson savages Stauffer.

When will the madness end?

GMB@BP 08-30-2021 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson721 (Post 2750237)
I lose all respect for people who discuss their financials on public forums. Then again, many of your posts here have cost me to lose any respect I might have had for you. Do you feel the need to do this because you were a semi(?) celebrity and still feel the need to be recognized?


Hey Vic, do you want to here about my stock market trades in the last year involving the stock Nvidia? Maybe I should post "I lost $7100 on a bad ride but that is OK with me, I made lots of money on my stock investments!" You didn't make any comments about stock trades but you sound just as arrogant!.


Do I feel the need to discuss that on anonymous racing message message boards? NO


Do I feel it is important for people to know what I might have won on any bets I made on racing? NO



Check your ego at the door. You call races and you don't cure diseases or feed the poor. You are not as important in this world as you think you are!


Good advice you posted here telling Joel Rosario to not leave California! Do you remember that Vic race caller guy? Once again, CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR!


I am sure the few sycophants you have here will attack me. Enjoy them and let them feed your ego. Your EGO is larger than your talent is needed in the real world!

I mean it is a horse racing and handicapping site,,,but if you want to talk about your stock trades I am game.

Elkchester Road 08-30-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by castaway01 (Post 2750636)
First Firenze Fire savages Yaupon.
Then Molson savages Stauffer.

When will the madness end?

:D:D

Afleet 08-31-2021 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2750218)
I never watched the head on. I'll take your word for it. I was too busy watching Ryan Moore get absolutely undressed by Joel Rosario costing me $7100.00 in the Horse Tourneys Pick N Pray.

Tragic! :puke:

best horse didn't win and i had no plays on the race and didnt use the race in the NHC

Afleet 08-31-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thespaah (Post 2750268)
Rule number one...Never talk about fight club

:D

Afleet 08-31-2021 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castaway01 (Post 2750636)
First Firenze Fire savages Yaupon.
Then Molson savages Stauffer.

When will the madness end?

:D

I did have Yaupon in the NHC

cj 08-31-2021 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2750637)
I mean it is a horse racing and handicapping site,,,but if you want to talk about your stock trades I am game.

We even have a section for that here!

v j stauffer 08-31-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2750637)
I mean it is a horse racing and handicapping site,,,but if you want to talk about your stock trades I am game.

I'm terrified to talk about anything with the Molson Man lurking in the shadows.

ReplayRandall 08-31-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2751028)
I'm terrified to talk about anything with the Molson Man lurking in the shadows.

Is that a bad, or a good thing for the rest of us?....:cool:

v j stauffer 08-31-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2751058)
Is that a bad, or a good thing for the rest of us?....:cool:

I'm sure most will agree. The less I say, the better for all PA members.

Elkchester Road 09-01-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 2751028)
I'm terrified to talk about anything with the Molson Man lurking in the shadows.

:lol::lol::lol:


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