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mostpost 03-09-2018 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElKabong (Post 2287802)
AL division winners
Hou
Cle
NYY

Wild cards
Bos
LAA

NL division winners
LAD
Chi
Was

Wild cards
StL
SF

World Series: Cubs beat Astros in six

A truly wise man. Although I would probably put the Diamondbacks as one of the NL wild cards. But that is nit picking.

mostpost 03-09-2018 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Valuist (Post 2287608)
Money continues to come in on the over, now up to 69 1/2 (over at -120).

Their minor leagues are loaded; just a matter of when the prospects get up to the MLB level.

I agree. I don't think they will reach .500 this year but I am thinking mid 70s for wins.

LemonSoupKid 03-09-2018 12:21 PM

I'd be more interested in your take on win totals since what I see above is all chalk. And there's nothing wrong with that unless you are associating a price with it that you'd bet.

LemonSoupKid 03-09-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2287327)
IMO...the best bet on the board is the White Sox UNDER 68.

The White Sox over is my best best of all, and I've got a lot of money on it (my number is 68.5).

LemonSoupKid 03-09-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MutuelClerk (Post 2287775)
The Tigers will lose more than the Sox. Same division. Terrible division.

Agreed, I'm on the Tigers under.

The Central isn't terrible, Minnesota and the White Sox are vastly improved/improving. In 2019 the White Sox can be a very real contender. Royals are certainly moving down, and the Tigers are brutal though, yes. Which is why the similar number for White Sox and Tigers is so, so silly.

Valuist 03-09-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2287803)
Time to post my opinion. Most of you know that I am from the Chicago area and I am a Cubs fan-for almost seventy years. So, it will come as no surprise that I think the Cubs are the best team in Major League baseball, and by a wide margin.

Begin with the starting pitching. Top to bottom, no team is as deep as the Cubs.
Lester, Quintana, and Darvish have all been aces either on the Cubs or on their previous teams. Everybody says that Hendricks is an ace of the future and many say the future is now. If you only consider Chatwood's starts away from Coors Field you should be quite impressed. And you should only consider those starts because he will be making at most one start at Coors this season.

What else do they have? The best young catcher in Willson Contreras, both defensively and offensively. A gold glove first baseman who averages thirty home runs a year in Anthony Rizzo The best defensive second baseman in the game and maybe the best defensive infielder of all in Javy Baez. Expect Addison Russell to contend for comeback of the year at short. Then there is Kris Bryant at third. Rookie of the Year; Most Valuable Player and only 25 years old.

In the outfield, a slimmed down Kyle Schwarber has already stolen three bases; Albert Almora is making the impossible catch routine and Ian Happ is tearing the cover off the ball and also making circus catches in Center Field.
Plus he can fill in at second, third and first base.

There are other good teams such as Houston and the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Washington Nationals will certainly be heard from as well as the Cleveland Indians and Arizona Diamondbacks. But when all is said and done, it is the Cubs who will be hoisting that World Series trophy.

It feels like the dominance of the 2016 season seems to be forgotten by many. The World Series hangover was not completely unexpected; they played sub par most of the first half yet still ended up with over 90 wins and a 3rd straight NLCS.

I agree 100% on Chatwood. I cashed a number of bets on him when he pitched on the road. Pitchers who rely on movement (like Chatwood) are going to really struggle at Coors.

I won't go quite as far to say the best team by a wide margin, but one of about 6 teams that are at the top and could win the WS. I actually see a bit of regression in the Dodgers.

I also think people are overlooking the Indians a bit. Yes, Houston and the Yankees are very good teams, but I would not be shocked to see the Indians return to the WS.

olddaddy 03-12-2018 10:11 PM

The White Sox would be one of the toughest teams to gauge. The over under will depend on when management decides to bring up the touted prospects. This is one I wouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

Valuist 03-21-2018 12:23 PM

I was in Vegas this past weekend and I have four MLB season win totals:

San Francisco Under 84
Minnesota Under 85
Cleveland Over 94 1/2
Texas Under 76 1/2

I almost pulled the trigger on the Dodgers Under 96 1/2 and with the subsequent Justin Turner injury, I wish I had.

mostpost 03-24-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valuist (Post 2292502)
I was in Vegas this past weekend and I have four MLB season win totals:

San Francisco Under 84
Minnesota Under 85
Cleveland Over 94 1/2
Texas Under 76 1/2

I almost pulled the trigger on the Dodgers Under 96 1/2 and with the subsequent Justin Turner injury, I wish I had.

San Fran under 84 really looking good after Baumgarner injury.

nomadpat 03-25-2018 12:34 AM

I took Oakland over 75.5. I created a system against the spread last year and they kept coming up as plays even though their record wasn't great. They should have had more runs created and less given up given their stats, so hoping that means a positive 2018.

Valuist 03-25-2018 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2293896)
San Fran under 84 really looking good after Baumgarner injury.

Ty Blach will be the Opening day starter. Apparently Cueto isn't ready, and Samardijza has a pec issue.

Valuist 03-25-2018 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadpat (Post 2294373)
I took Oakland over 75.5. I created a system against the spread last year and they kept coming up as plays even though their record wasn't great. They should have had more runs created and less given up given their stats, so hoping that means a positive 2018.

I like that play. I like to check WRC+ with runners in scoring position relative to overall WRC+. According to that, Oakland had the worst sequencing in MLB. They should've scored quite a few more runs than they did. My Texas under play is sort of a second derivative of Oakland under and not expecting much regression from Houston and LAA to be improved.

LemonSoupKid 03-27-2018 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olddaddy (Post 2289502)
The White Sox would be one of the toughest teams to gauge. The over under will depend on when management decides to bring up the touted prospects. This is one I wouldnt touch with a ten foot pole.

In full disclosure along with the above, I'm on Mets under (+odds), Tigers under, Pirates under.

Valuist 03-28-2018 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2287806)
A truly wise man. Although I would probably put the Diamondbacks as one of the NL wild cards. But that is nit picking.

San Francisco has almost no chance. I didn't like them with MadBum and Samardijza healthy, and now both are out. They traded for aging power. It's an organization in denial about a rebuild.

reckless 04-01-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2287189)
Three weeks-and one day-from the start of the Major League Baseball season.
Time for our New York posters to make unrealistic and delusional predictions about how well the Mets will do. ;)

Seriously, here is one set of predictions on the win-loss possibilities of all the teams. A good place to start the discussion.

Following the team names, the first number is the actual number of wins during the 2017 season. The second number is the projected number of wins for 2018.
Let the discussion begin.
https://www.oddsshark.com/mlb/mlb-season-win-totals

Team
2017 Wins
2018 Win Total
Arizona Diamondbacks
93
85.5

Atlanta Braves
72
74.5

Baltimore Orioles
75
73.0

Boston Red Sox
93
91.5

Chicago Cubs
92
94.5

Chicago White Sox
67
68.0

Cincinnati Reds
68
73.5

Cleveland Indians
102
94.5

Colorado Rockies
87
82

Detroit Tigers
64
68.5

Houston Astros
101
96.5

Kansas City Royals
80
71.5

Los Angeles Angels
80
84.5

Los Angeles Dodgers
104
96.5

Miami Marlins
77
64.5

Milwaukee Brewers
86
84.5

Minnesota Twins
85
82.5

New York Mets
70
81

New York Yankees
91
94.5

Oakland A’s
75
74.5

Philadelphia Phillies
66
75.5

Pittsburgh Pirates
75
73

San Diego Padres
71
69.5
-115
-105
San Francisco Giants
64
81.5

Seattle Mariners
78
81.5


St. Louis Cardinals
83
85.5

Tampa Bay Rays
80
77.5

Texas Rangers
78
77.5

Toronto Blue Jays
76
81.0

Washington Nationals
97
92.5

Both the Mets and the Yankees will be over their projected wins.

The Braves could win a game or two over, with the Phillies now an under. Their manager has already proven to be the dumbest guy ever to manage a team -- and there's 160 games left! :lol::lol:

The Cubs will be a few games under their projection only because the Cardinals are geared for a very good year, and they should be an over bet.

The Indians' number seems too high so I'll peg them as an under. Remember their pitching coach is no longer there as he's managing the under-rated NY Mets. That truly is a big loss for the Indians, imo.


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