AT lesser tracks I have found that if you throw out any horse that hasn't done any thing in the last 6o days you do a little better. However, in the BC yesterday there were a couple that were laid off 250 days and won. Different leagues and different rules.

using DRF Formulator, i ALWAYS prints fractions as :44.66 rather than :44 & 3/5ths.
Playing Quarterhorses got me into using them, now i feel cheated with a DRF paper edition that gives times in 1/5th's.
Also, OWNER information is Crucial at smaller tracks like Mountaineer & LosAL.
When Mike Flory claims one @LosAL, or Billy Davis @Mountain, just bet em!

I noticed on the form it just lists the owner, instead of giving the typical Starts-W-P-S-Win%-ROI that it does for the trainer and jockey. There aren't any stats categories in the BRIS file.

I assumed this was because the owner's listing was simply a formality, they just do it because its part of the horse's info, not because its particularly useful.

One thing I'd like to have is earnings for the jockey and trainer. What does a 10% winning percent mean? It's different if it is 10% earning $5000 verse 10% earning $1,500,000.

That 10% is the indicator of how well the trainer and jockey work together. I think it goes to form, is this horse trained by a good trainer and ridden by a good jockey. If push comes to shove a 20% team should be a better bet than a 10% team.

JMHO

Al, other may have differing opinions on this one but when a trainer and jockey hit 15% together I always give that horse a litte more creedence than with a lesser pecentage provided the horse is in the right class, surface and distance. Some databasers and articles I've read say these win more than their fair share of races.

i look at ownership all the time. i also try to become as knowledgeable as possible about ownership. the amount of bank behind a runner has a huge affect on how a horse is raced and trained. especially in races like the breeders cup. think about it. is the ownership just a racing centered operation, or is the ownership a breeding farm in addition to racing. if the ownership doesn't have alot of bank the horse needs to be raced more often. then the horse isn't in every race to win...

I must ignore the parts that lead to winning selections!!! :lol: :lol:

As a bettor I'm looking for approaches that ignore last speed figure and still finds winners reliably.

As a bettor, I often ignore the horse's last race altogether...pretending that it doesn't even exist.

We have all been preconditioned to believe that the last race is the best indicator of a horse's form...and that type of thinking must be avoided if value is what we are looking for in this game.

Whether the last race is too good, or too bad, I ignore it...unless other proof exists to make me think that something has fundamentally changed with the horse.

The horse's last race is often only a mirage...

As a handicapper the last race is very important to me in context with the horses last two previous races. :)

They should list the vet. First time 'fresh vet' might be something that people want to know....but maybe its just me.

Gus, regarding ignoring a horses last race out what would you say if that last race was that particular horses new top speed rating. I have not been able to verify via databsae but some texts suggest a top figure last time or worse yet a double top figure (2 races in a row) is a formula for a "bounce" due to maximum efforts being exerted, soley based on that horses race history. Bounce theory may be just old school imaginations by others but some think it is a real factor for consideration, not the only factor. In this case would you still ignore the last race? Throw out as a non-contender or maybe a repeater?

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

I think thaskalos threw a curveball at me...

For bounce I tend to use significant lifetime high and short rest myself.