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Clocker 12-30-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255668)
McStain is a low life traitor,IMHO.:rip:

Whatever you think of McCain as a politician, mediocre at best in my opinion, the term traitor is disgusting given his military service.

woodtoo 12-31-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2255676)
Whatever you think of McCain as a politician, mediocre at best in my opinion, the term traitor is disgusting given his military service.

His military record is what puts the stain on McCain:puke: "is that him singing"

How many of his countrymen died on his shifts? 100's

Marshall Bennett 12-31-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255748)
His military record is what puts the stain on McCain:puke: "is that him singing"

How many of his countrymen died on his shifts? 100's

His military service has been somewhat exaggerated to the point of being termed a war hero. He liked to party a lot. He was considered a reckless fighter pilot. A few of his missions resulted in him crashing by his own hands. He was captured and tortured by the Viet Cong.
Most would consider his military career less than remarkable, but we're talking about John McCain.

Clocker 12-31-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett (Post 2255777)
His military service has been somewhat exaggerated to the point of being termed a war hero. He liked to party a lot. He was considered a reckless fighter pilot. A few of his missions resulted in him crashing by his own hands. He was captured and tortured by the Viet Cong.
Most would consider his military career less than remarkable, but we're talking about John McCain.

None of which makes him a traitor, or makes any sense out of the accusation that he was responsible for the death of hundreds of Americans.

woodtoo 12-31-2017 02:58 PM

His wet-start on the Forrestal killed 167 shipmates and he was transferred to the
USS Oriskany before the dead were all counted

This was before the "songbird" accusations.

elysiantraveller 12-31-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255883)
His wet-start on the Forrestal killed 167 shipmates and he was transferred to the
USS Oriskany before the dead were all counted

This was before the "songbird" accusations.

Fake news.

woodtoo 12-31-2017 03:23 PM

Like him or lump him. Your choice.

elysiantraveller 12-31-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255898)
Like him or lump him. Your choice.

You accused him of killing his fellow servicemen by believing some BS political propaganda. There are tons of videos of what happened on the Forrestal and this is a blatant lie that your perpetuating.

Clocker 12-31-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2255891)
Fake news.

As is the 5 plane crashes story.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/mc...plane-crashes/

There was no "wet start". The fire was caused by an electrical surge that launched a rocket from a plane behind McClain.

https://www.snopes.com/john-mccain-fire-uss-forrestal/

Clocker 12-31-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255898)
Like him or lump him. Your choice.

I don't like him or lump him, and that's based on truth, not moronic rumors. He is no better or worse than most of the political hacks in Congress. His voters are the ones to judge him, and they keep sending him back to the Senate.

Clocker 12-31-2017 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255883)

This was before the "songbird" accusations.

More fake news, political dirty tricks put out during a campaign.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...was-a-traitor/

elysiantraveller 12-31-2017 04:22 PM

Yup.

The Forrestal is plain as day what happened. McCain and his wingman's plane got hit by a rocket on a F4 that malfunctioned and their ordinance cooked off.

Marshall Bennett 12-31-2017 04:30 PM

Whatever. He and Romney both refused to recognize Trump as a valid candidate, trashing him in the process. They as well as hung their support with Hillary in doing so.
I know no have an ounce of respect for either, and yes both are traitors to their party. Fake news, bullshit, or whatever you call it they deserve it for being complete unreliable assholes. :ThmbDown:

jocko699 12-31-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2255883)
His wet-start on the Forrestal killed 167 shipmates and he was transferred to the
USS Oriskany before the dead were all counted

This was before the "songbird" accusations.

What branch and year's did you serve woodtoo and where?

Thanks

Clocker 12-31-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2255970)
What branch and year's did you serve woodtoo and where?

Thanks

The Mounties in the Great White North. :p


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