Ehhh...I guess the first part of the reply to me in ALL CAPS...followed by the next part talking to me like I am a pre-schooler...may have scrambled my synapses.

Should CD ban Steve Asmussen horses from running in the Derby? He's had 2 violations in Kentucky and multiple violation in other jurisdictions. How about the fact for the 3rd time on September 8th he had to pay back wages and damages to employees after being sued by the department of labor. So not only does he cheat he has a track record of not paying employees what they are owed.

How about Drug Oneil? Surely with 20+ violations to his name CD should ban his horses from running in the Derby?????

Chad Brown anyone?

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...back-pay-fines

Out of the 37 horses who started in this years Triple Crown races 28 of those horses were trained by trainers with drug violations. Most of the trainers have had multiple violations and Asmussen-Brown had to pay up after being sued by the Department of Labor.

So what? "You can't fine me for speeding. 100 other people got away with it." Try that in traffic court and let us know how it goes.

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Hearing Breeders' Cup is under enormous pressure to ban Baffert. Source I trust says they will but I'll wait till it's in writing by the Breeders' Cup.

So you only ban them if they test positive in the Derby? All other positives don't matter I guess. A slap on the wrist and a small fine. Sounds fair:bang:

Of course he wouldn’t admit it, but the burden is not on him to prove he didn’t dope the horse with something other than the legal therapeutic he agrees was in the horse’s system. So you DQ the horse, give him a suspension, and then he eventually comes back. This would probably be close to over already if he would have accepted responsibility right from the start. If they really want him out of the sport, IMO they have to do better than this drug at this level. Wiretaps seem to work. lol

I don't have a problem with them going after Baffert but then I want them to go after others. Guys like Drug O'Neill, Steve Asmussen and Rudy Rodriguez who have had multiple drug violations not to mention the Nero fiasco with Asmussen. They get small suspensions and fines. There is just no consistency.

You can get the ones who's horses have tested positive. There are a lot of them and none of them are getting the same treatment Baffert is.

We all want them out. Beginning with Baffert is the best way

All true so the question is now. If he didn't appeal and make excuses. Would they still be doing it? Like you said other trainers have appealed both the length of the suspension and fine. So the only difference is that he made excuses? Wow you really are grasping at straws. He's won 4 of the last 5 Derby's. That's what I think they don't like. They call it the hardest race to win and he made it look easy. It doesn't make for good TV if Baffert wins every year. Throw in that he's not humble about it and there you go.

You guys just hate Baffert when other trainers are doing the exact same things. I just have to shake my head. Let these other guys get away with the same offences but lets ruin another guys career. You either throw them all out or let them all play. There is no in between. There shouldn't be anyway.

Fair enough but I doubt that happens.

If my memory is correct Dutrow’s original suspension was 30 or 60 days and turned into 10 years after he appealed and it was reviewed. Sometimes it’s better to just shut up and take the hit. IMO the Dutrow case was way worse than this one. There were syringes with banned substances involved, a lot of therapeutic overages like in this case, and a long history of dramatic move ups on a trainer change to him.