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douglasw32 06-17-2009 12:11 AM

Using the FREE program
 
Get the Newest Program here.

http://localpcpros.com/FASTV7.exe

Here we can discuss HOW everyone is using the program =) as requested.

I have to stop changing it now or my wife will divorce me since it is the only thing she uses, she loves all the improvements we have all contributed but is tired of seeing something new each time.

So lets consider it done.

As always...

A word about printing, it works great in firefox, (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/produc...=win&lang=en-US) if you print preview and choose "Shrink To Fit"

Thanks again to all of you =)

Doug


P.S.

If it does not work try adding these to your system....

(dot) net
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en

VB runtimes
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192461

Library files
http://www.ascentive.com/support/new/libraryfiles.exe

BTW- hint, when you print like I do to the free Bullzip PDF printer from the internet browser, since the report is in HTML
http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php#download

Be sure to go to...

Tools->Internet Options->Advanced, scroll to PRINTING
checkbox, "Print background Images and Colors"

Even if you are printing to a "real" printer.

Also this is a great PDF tool for "Marking Up the PDF"
http://www.docu-track.com/downloads/users/
Get the free pdfXchange viewer.

This was all tested when opened in Internet Explorer 8 set as the default browser on 32 bit Vista.

I have been told it works fine on XP, Vista 64 bit and even Linux through wine.

The Pace Advantage Toolbar I made some time ago that needs some updating is here (no spyware)
http://handicappers.ourtoolbar.com/

and an app I made for my IPOD TOUCH/IPHONE is here...
http://localpcpros.com/handicappers.xml
Just open this link with the ipod and save it to the main screen.

This is ALL FREE.

douglasw32 06-17-2009 12:24 AM

My Way
 
This is how "I" see the 8th at Belmont 6/17/09
http://localpcpros.com/bel.pdf

What does everyone else come up with?

fight 06-17-2009 08:39 AM

why
 
hey friend i just drew down new program you sent 8th at bel i look at my sat #s tyey are not the same i use bris 1$ whys that my fast #s are top to bottom 85-92-85-78-84-77-77-80-85 isee its 1point here and there but shouldnt we be the same? if you are using bris1$ ty friend good work its appreciated by all.

fight 06-17-2009 09:01 AM

8th bel
 
using dartmans theory witch i like and by the way thats not throwing a dart at the sheet lol i get 2-9-3-1tie-8tie.again thanks doug.

douglasw32 06-17-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fight
hey friend i just drew down new program you sent 8th at bel i look at my sat #s tyey are not the same i use bris 1$ whys that my fast #s are top to bottom 85-92-85-78-84-77-77-80-85 isee its 1point here and there but shouldnt we be the same? if you are using bris1$ ty friend good work its appreciated by all.


Sorry there was a programming error (I mentioned on the last thread that I noticed trying to explain what made up the fast fig) so any of the older ones will come out with different numbers.

more accurate and most likely "tighter" on a scale.

=(

fight 06-17-2009 09:51 AM

doug
 
just so you understand me.you may have misunderstood what i said i have you new program installed so would i not get the same fast#s as you ??because they are differentthan your bel 8th example . what dont i get?

Pcon04 06-17-2009 10:23 AM

Douglas

Did you eliminated the days away LR in the summary on purpose ???

thanks
pcon04

dartman51 06-17-2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douglasw32
This is how "I" see the 8th at Belmont 6/17/09
http://localpcpros.com/bel.pdf

What does everyone else come up with?

I'm going with the 3. In 84 races @ 6f, at this meet, 42% have gone wire to wire, and the preferred R/S is E. So with that knowledge, and the program numbers, I will go with the 3 to WIN, and the 3 over/under the 1,4,8. :ThmbUp:

dartman51 06-17-2009 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fight
using dartmans theory witch i like and by the way thats not throwing a dart at the sheet lol i get 2-9-3-1tie-8tie.again thanks doug.

Fight
While the 2 does have a 6 point edge in the FaST #'s, He is 7 points behind on the dirt #'s (using TSN files). That's when I have to either dig deeper or pass the race. I could also make a case for Doug's choice. If he is 8-1 or better at PT. Within his last few starts, he has matched or exceeded PAR for final time @ today's distance and class level.The only horse in the race that has done so. He also is 2 of 4 at this track, and 4 of 10 at this distance. Plus, has the best TOTAL pace rating. ALL of this is what makes this game so complicated. :confused:
See my other post for what I will probably play. If the #1 is 8-1 or better @ PT, it could alter my bet.

Good Luck.:)

douglasw32 06-17-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fight
just so you understand me.you may have misunderstood what i said i have you new program installed so would i not get the same fast#s as you ??because they are differentthan your bel 8th example . what dont i get?

I used the BRIS single file DRF in the Version 7 of the program for todays 8th.

if you are doing exactly that and getting different numbers then that is very odd?

douglasw32 06-17-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pcon04
Douglas

Did you eliminated the days away LR in the summary on purpose ???

thanks
pcon04

Sorry yes, for space i can add them back if so desired ?

fight 06-17-2009 05:06 PM

doug
 
85-92-85-78-84-77-77-80-85 yes i using that filewhy different #s?
86-93-86-78-85-78-77-81-85 are yours strange

Pcon04 06-17-2009 06:45 PM

douglas

for me the ML would be beneficial.I for one do not like long layoff

horses .Especially if its a Fav.


Thanks

P

headhawg 06-17-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fight
85-92-85-78-84-77-77-80-85 yes i using that filewhy different #s?
86-93-86-78-85-78-77-81-85 are yours strange

Looks like a rounding issue to me. Could be that different CPUs yield slightly different results?? Or maybe the O/S?

douglasw32 06-17-2009 10:11 PM

Puzzled
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fight
85-92-85-78-84-77-77-80-85 yes i using that filewhy different #s?
86-93-86-78-85-78-77-81-85 are yours strange


Looks like a rounding issue to me. Could be that different CPUs yield slightly different results?? Or maybe the O/S?


================================================== ====

Maybe,I suppose it could round differently.

Fight, did you try downloading it over again to the same place as the older one and executing it, that should overwrite the old one, just top be sure ???

douglasw32 06-17-2009 10:13 PM

The Morning Line is still in there (far right), the other one was Last Race Odds, thats gone, and the days off...

So ... I can oput the days off back in and still have it fit, I think.

I will try it soon

fight 06-18-2009 12:01 AM

doug
 
just deleted it redrewit same results

douglasw32 06-18-2009 07:27 AM

Well this is curious.

What type of Operating system/Computer ? (but I doubt that is it)

Can anyone else chime in with what they have???
Maybe it is my set that is the odd man out.

Pcon04 06-18-2009 07:43 AM

I ran belmont 17th came out exactly like Dougs

i run win home xp.
pcon

Pcon04 06-18-2009 07:45 AM

forgot to say I used the bris drf file

sorry

p

douglasw32 06-18-2009 07:55 AM

go it
 
I downloaded it over again Myself and ran it and the problem seemed to be on my End....

Mine matches Fights now?

Pcon, try downloading it again, see if yours comes out like fights'

This is the oddest thing (of course I have never written a program before) so maybe not so strange to someone who knows VB6, maybe it is just Rounding differently?

I can put the decimal in, in Version 7.1 when I put the Days Since Last Raced BACK into the summary ;)

douglasw32 06-18-2009 08:26 AM

UPDATE
 
Get the Newest, Newest ... Program here.

http://localpcpros.com/FASTV7.exe

The Days Since Last Raced are back in, and ... a decimal in the FAST fig itself so everyone ends up with the same Number I hope.

fight 06-18-2009 09:05 AM

new me 8th bel wed
 
Race #8 for 3 Year Olds And Up, OClm 50000n2x, going 6.0f, on Dirt @ (4:45)/3:45/2:45/1:45 Pr# Horse Lr cl Ds Ep Rt Lp Rs Fm Pc aw tf my dt Fast Tr Jk ml


#1 EXECUTIVE FLEET 96 101 103 95 E/P 91 M 10 9 108 92 106 100 84.5 21 13 8.0
#2 EXCESS CAPITAL 23 92 106 85 E 93 M 15 15 98 100 93 94 92.4 13 16 6.0
#3 ROLLERS 23 93 107 95 E 85 M 9 10 94 91 104 96 84.9 16 25 3.0
#4 LAYSH LAYSH LAYSH 17 91 104 77 S 98 L 9 6 83 90 86 92 77.8 17 18 10.0
#5 NEW MEMBER 42 90 100 92 E 87 H 12 11 98 108 92 93 84.0 18 17 3.5
#6 GIMMEAROUTINE 25 90 100 86 P 90 L 9 7 98 80 95 92 76.9 13 13 12.0
#7 BILL PLACE 3 91 101 86 S 89 L 6 8 98 101 99 92 76.9 5 19 10.0
#8 MUCHO MACHO 161 93 104 88 E/P 87 H 14 8 99 99 104 95 80.3 20 13 4.0
#9 DIGGER 11 90 106 91 E/P 79 H 10 10 84 105 101 94 84.9 14 15 12.0

headhawg 06-18-2009 09:30 AM

Here is my output using Bris single, XP Pro, and a Core 2 Duo proc:

HTML Code:

#1        EXECUTIVE FLEET        96        101        103        95        E/P        91        M        21        9        108        92        106        100        86.4        21        13        8.0
#2        EXCESS CAPITAL          23        92        106        85        E        93        M        19        15        98        100        93        94        93.1        13        16        6.0
#3        ROLLERS                    23        93        107        95        E        85        M        13        10        94        91        104        96        85.6        16        25        3.0
#4        LAYSH LAYSH LAYSH        17        91        104        77        S        98        L        12        6        83        90        86        92        78.3        17        18        10.0
#5        NEW MEMBER              42        90        100        92        E        87        H        16        11        98        108        92        93        84.7        18        17        3.5
#6        GIMMEAROUTINE                  25        90        100        86        P        90        L        13        7        98        80        95        92        77.6        13        13        12.0
#7        BILL PLACE                  3        91        101        86        S        89        L        9        8        98        101        99        92        77.4        5        19        10.0
#8        MUCHO MACHO                    161        93        104        88        E/P        87        H        18        8        99        99        104        95        81.0        20        13        4.0
#9        DIGGER                      11        90        106        91        E/P        79        H        13        10        84        105        101        94        85.4        14        15        12.0


douglasw32 06-18-2009 10:20 AM

Code:

Race #8 for 3 Year Olds And Up, OClm 50000n2x, going 6.0f, on Dirt  @ (4:45)/3:45/2:45/1:45    Pr#  Horse  Lr  cl  Ds  Ep  Rt  Lp  Rs  Fm  Pc  aw  tf  my  dt  Fast  Tr  Jk  ml   
 
    #1  EXECUTIVE FLEET  96  101  103  95  E/P  91  M  10  9  108  92  106  100  84.5  21  13  8.0    #2  EXCESS CAPITAL  23  92  106  85  E  93  M  15  15  98  100  93  94  92.4  13  16  6.0    #3  ROLLERS  23  93  107  95  E  85  M  9  10  94  91  104  96  84.9  16  25  3.0    #4  LAYSH LAYSH LAYSH  17  91  104  77  S  98  L  9  6  83  90  86  92  77.8  17  18  10.0    #5  NEW MEMBER  42  90  100  92  E  87  H  12  11  98  108  92  93  84.0  18  17  3.5    #6  GIMMEAROUTINE  25  90  100  86  P  90  L  9  7  98  80  95  92  76.9  13  13  12.0    #7  BILL PLACE  3  91  101  86  S  89  L  6  8  98  101  99  92  76.9  5  19  10.0    #8  MUCHO MACHO  161  93  104  88  E/P  87  H  14  8  99  99  104  95  80.3  20  13  4.0    #9  DIGGER  11  90  106  91  E/P  79  H  10  10  84  105  101  94  84.9  14  15  12.0


douglasw32 06-18-2009 10:37 AM

SO now me and fight match... Using Bris single File, Win Vista business.

headhawg will you download it over again from the last link and overwrite what you have and run it again.

Your PCR and Form Points are different than the other 2.

redownloading it worked for me, not that I can logically explain why???

headhawg 06-18-2009 11:23 AM

Ok. I redownloaded and made sure that I deleted the previous FAST folder. Looks like it matches.

Code:

#1        EXECUTIVE FLEET        96        101        103        95        E/P        91        M        10        9        108        92        106        100        84.5        21        13        8.0
#2        EXCESS CAPITAL          23        92        106        85        E        93        M        15        15        98        100        93        94        92.4        13        16        6.0
#3        ROLLERS                    23        93        107        95        E        85        M        9        10        94        91        104        96        84.9        16        25        3.0
#4        LAYSH LAYSH LAYSH        17        91        104        77        S        98        L        9        6        83        90        86        92        77.8        17        18        10.0
#5        NEW MEMBER              42        90        100        92        E        87        H        12        11        98        108        92        93        84.0        18        17        3.5
#6        GIMMEAROUTINE                  25        90        100        86        P        90        L        9        7        98        80        95        92        76.9        13        13        12.0
#7        BILL PLACE                  3        91        101        86        S        89        L        6        8        98        101        99        92        76.9        5        19        10.0
#8        MUCHO MACHO                    161        93        104        88        E/P        87        H        14        8        99        99        104        95        80.3        20        13        4.0
#9        DIGGER                      11        90        106        91        E/P        79        H        10        10        84        105        101        94        84.9        14        15        12.0


douglasw32 06-18-2009 10:06 PM

Good we will consider that the "FIX" =)

douglasw32 06-18-2009 11:25 PM

Sample Race
 
Belmont Race #3 Friday 6/18

Summary:

http://localpcpros.com/PDF/bel.pdf

Full:

http://localpcpros.com/PDF/bel2.pdf

What do you all come up with for this one.

I get a horse coming off a long, long rest ?

pat 06-19-2009 06:19 PM

doug can you post a final legend to show how to interpret #s

douglasw32 06-19-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by douglasw32
Belmont Race #3 Friday 6/18

Summary:

http://localpcpros.com/PDF/bel.pdf

Full:

http://localpcpros.com/PDF/bel2.pdf

What do you all come up with for this one.

I get a horse coming off a long, long rest ?



Fail!

douglasw32 06-20-2009 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pat
doug can you post a final legend to show how to interpret #s

Yes...I'll get something done tomorrow (sat)

chrisl 06-20-2009 11:35 AM

Hello Doug: What tool are you using to shade the desired areas using the PDF xchanger. Thank You Chris

chrisl 06-20-2009 12:02 PM

Never mind Doug go it. Thank's Chris

douglasw32 06-20-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisl
Hello Doug: What tool are you using to shade the desired areas using the PDF xchanger. Thank You Chris

Yes I love that tool for PDF's.
I print to PDF, use that to work it up, then print to the printer.

chrisl 06-20-2009 03:10 PM

Strange: but this mark up tool has really helped my capping out. Using different colors, for different angles, also race shape. works for me. Chris

douglasw32 06-20-2009 11:49 PM

My 3 Plays at Belmont Sunday
 

cloud9 06-20-2009 11:49 PM

How do you get the mark up tool ?

douglasw32 06-20-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloud9
How do you get the mark up tool ?

BTW- hint, when you print like I do to the free Bullzip PDF printer from the internet browser, since the report is in HTML
http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php#download

Be sure to go to...

Tools->Internet Options->Advanced, scroll to PRINTING
checkbox, "Print background Images and Colors"

Even if you are printing to a "real" printer.

Also this is a great PDF tool for "Marking Up the PDF"
http://www.docu-track.com/downloads/users/
Get the free pdfXchange viewer.

AAcoolguy 06-21-2009 04:49 AM

Run that by me again,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by douglasw32

I'm not getting what you are doing by marking up the summary the way you are. In other words I don't understand how you are coming up with your selection.
I have found that the FAST numbers are a great way to narrow down the field. I believe it was Dick Schmidt that suggested half the field plus one for your contenders. If your field is 8 horses your contenders would be half the field = 4 + 1 = 5. The top 5 (or whatever the field + 1 is) FAST numbers are going to have the winner in there quite often if not most of the time. I don't have the exact % of the time though. It cuts down on your handicapping time.


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