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maddog42 02-27-2017 05:48 PM

Will Republicans Sweep Treason Under The Rug?
 

OntheRail 02-27-2017 05:52 PM

:rolleyes:

Inner Dirt 02-27-2017 05:56 PM

You would think liberals would get dehydrated from crying so much over the election, when is it going to stop?

mostpost 02-27-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2127840)
You would think liberals would get dehydrated from crying so much over the election, when is it going to stop?

According to the rules currently in place, Trump won the election and there is no changing that. Also, it is impossible to quantify the influence of the Russian hacking on the election. Yes there was hacking and yes it did influence the election.

We don't know, for sure, to what extent the Trump campaign was involved. The problem, if the Daily Kos story is correct, is that the Republicans will refuse to investigate the matter. If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding it?

johnhannibalsmith 02-27-2017 06:05 PM

Nah, that's one thing that they've proven as competent at as conservatives have been for the last eight.

tucker6 02-27-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2127843)
According to the rules currently in place, Trump won the election and there is no changing that. Also, it is impossible to quantify the influence of the Russian hacking on the election. Yes there was hacking and yes it did influence the election.

We don't know, for sure, to what extent the Trump campaign was involved. The problem, if the Daily Kos story is correct, is that the Republicans will refuse to investigate the matter. If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding it?

If Hillary and the dems weren't so scummy, no amount of hacking would have changed the results. Weren't the Russians acting as whistle blowers here? As we know, Dems have always protected whistle blowers against the seedy side of society.

Unless of course you don't feel compelled to clean the Dems dirty laundry.

maddog42 02-27-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2127843)
According to the rules currently in place, Trump won the election and there is no changing that. Also, it is impossible to quantify the influence of the Russian hacking on the election. Yes there was hacking and yes it did influence the election.

We don't know, for sure, to what extent the Trump campaign was involved. The problem, if the Daily Kos story is correct, is that the Republicans will refuse to investigate the matter. If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding it?

I agree that we don't know if it is treason. They are acting like there is something to hide. If they colluded with the russians to hack this election or
are paying off a blackmail debt, then it is treason.

JustRalph 02-27-2017 06:53 PM

Send Jill Stein 4 million again.....she'll investigate for you

VigorsTheGrey 02-27-2017 07:06 PM

Sad to say, but can any of us really trust any of the Intelligence services...these are the same guys who made secret agreements with all the important computer/ telecoms to have the capability to spy on practically anyone in the world, anytime, and store all the info in huge cloud complexes for future evaluation....that is the treason people should continue to talk about....if it wasn't for Edward Snowden blowing the cover on this travesty of government overreach, hardly anyone would have ever known...No private communication is secure anymore from the prying eyes of the state...

Tom 02-27-2017 07:06 PM

The only think that affected the election was the truth.

Time to stop all of the :rant:

fast4522 02-27-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by maddog42 (Post 2127847)
I agree that we don't know if it is treason. They are acting like there is something to hide. If they colluded with the russians to hack this election or
are paying off a blackmail debt, then it is treason.

You should get yourself a life, if there is nothing that can be found it is sure there will be no time wasted just for your ideology. One year from now we will have a real measure of this administration.

boxcar 02-27-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by maddog42 (Post 2127847)
I agree that we don't know if it is treason. They are acting like there is something to hide. If they colluded with the russians to hack this election or
are paying off a blackmail debt, then it is treason.

Did you know that the Russians hacked the Oscars last night? You know about the fiasco that went on, right?

riskman 02-27-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by maddog42 (Post 2127847)
I agree that we don't know if it is treason. They are acting like there is something to hide. If they colluded with the russians to hack this election or
are paying off a blackmail debt, then it is treason.

The dems want war with Russia. They are now the war party.
The Dems can prepare an invasion plan for the JCS to invade Russia.That should make them happy. Mad Dog and Mosty can lead the charge.

chadk66 02-27-2017 07:34 PM

:lol: Ah the smell of butt hurt in the air. Yea the Russians sure influenced the election, right up to the point where they won Hillary the popular vote :pound:

boxcar 02-27-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by riskman (Post 2127893)
The dems want war with Russia. They are now the war party.
The Dems can prepare an invasion plan for the JCS to invade Russia.That should make them happy. Mad Dog and Mosty can lead the charge.

The U.S. can always justify a preemptive nuke attack on the intel that the Ruskies have WMDs.

reckless 02-27-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boxcar (Post 2127888)
Did you know that the Russians hacked the Oscars last night? You know about the fiasco that went on, right?

Not sure if the Russians hacked the Oscars boxcar but I got this on good authority from a good 'friend' who works at Price Waterhouse:

La La Land got 63 million votes for Best Picture, while Moonlight only received 60 million. :lol:

chadk66 02-27-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by boxcar (Post 2127903)
The U.S. can always justify a preemptive nuke attack on the intel that the Ruskies have WMDs.

yes because the lefties always claim Putin is a WMD

Jess Hawsen Arown 02-27-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by maddog42 (Post 2127835)

When I saw the thread start with Republicans Sweep. I thought for sure you were talking about Congressional Elections and the White House.

barn32 02-27-2017 09:57 PM

"Try to imagine the reaction of Republicans if the proverbial shoe were on the other foot--if Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or some similar Democrat had been tainted with strong evidence of collaborating with the Russians to win the election. And if, following that, they refused to divulge their financial ties or their campaign’s contacts with the Russian state.* Imagine if their denials turned out time and time again to be outright lies. And then just try to imagine the Democrats in Congress deliberately refusing to investigate such accusations.

The Republicans would call it Treason. And they’d be right."

True dat.

VigorsTheGrey 02-27-2017 10:06 PM

The Left has always collaborated with the Communists...in fact the Left PRODUCED the Communists...Now that Russia is no longer Communist, the Left no longer supports the Russians...this proves beyond a doubt that the Left is Communist and always has been...

Jess Hawsen Arown 02-27-2017 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2127948)
"Try to imagine the reaction of Republicans if the proverbial shoe were on the other foot--if Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or some similar Democrat had been tainted with strong evidence of collaborating with the Russians to win the election. And if, following that, they refused to divulge their financial ties or their campaign’s contacts with the Russian state.* Imagine if their denials turned out time and time again to be outright lies. And then just try to imagine the Democrats in Congress deliberately refusing to investigate such accusations.

The Republicans would call it Treason. And they’d be right."

True dat.

Except the treasonous hacking happened during the Obama administration. The hacking in question, now, had zero impact on national security. It only proved that the Democrats were lying, conniving, low life scum.

PaceAdvantage 02-27-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2127948)
"Try to imagine the reaction of Republicans if the proverbial shoe were on the other foot--if Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or some similar Democrat had been tainted with strong evidence of collaborating with the Russians to win the election. And if, following that, they refused to divulge their financial ties or their campaign’s contacts with the Russian state.* Imagine if their denials turned out time and time again to be outright lies. And then just try to imagine the Democrats in Congress deliberately refusing to investigate such accusations.

The Republicans would call it Treason. And they’d be right."

True dat.

What exactly is this "strong evidence" of collaborating with the Russians to win the election? This is a serious question. Lay it all out. Show me the money.

maddog42 02-28-2017 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2127981)
What exactly is this "strong evidence" of collaborating with the Russians to win the election? This is a serious question. Lay it all out. Show me the money.

Most Republicans don't want to investigate. Do you think Flynn was fired for nothing?

PaceAdvantage 02-28-2017 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by maddog42 (Post 2128064)
Most Republicans don't want to investigate. Do you think Flynn was fired for nothing?

So, as of now, there is no strong evidence.

tucker6 02-28-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by maddog42 (Post 2128064)
Most Republicans don't want to investigate. Do you think Flynn was fired for nothing?

Flynn was fired for lying to his boss, who then lost confidence in Flynn's trustworthiness. It had nothing substantive to do with discussing sanctions with the Russians. In fact, it is and was perfectly legal for Flynn to have talked to the Russians about almost anything, but when your top spook isn't being truthful about what he discussed and you're left reading about it in the papers, then that IS a problem.

Whether dem or gop, I not only don't see fire with this story, I don't even see the smoke. I can say this without a doubt though. The public at large is already getting weary of protests and calls for impeachment and the Russian hacking thing and obstruction within the govt. The dems are on dangerous ground and need to be careful or they will truly be labeled unamerican and have the label stick. You have to do more than be a PITA if you want to be relevant long term. I know it feels good to obstruct and just be generally nasty, but it's not a winner as time goes on.

rastajenk 02-28-2017 07:34 AM

This Treason line of thought is total crap. It's just another bullshit message sent from the Mothership down to the operatives for further agitation. I've seen this feeler put out there a couple weeks ago, it just took the Daily Kostic longer to get around to it. For one, treason is defined in the Constitution as aiding and abetting the enemy; you can look up the exact wording. Russia is not the enemy; we are not at war with them. It may be a world geopolitical rival; it may have methods and ideals that are not in alignment with those of the US. But it is not the enemy (in fact, it can be and has been a partner in many situations), so just stop right there.

If anything, by the logic of those perpetuating this notion of treason, Obama and his canoodling with Iran would be much more treasonous behavior. I don't remember Dem/Libs getting all patriotic then.

As to the linked article itself, the writer several times quotes Jonathan Chait, who is the self-elected President of the Obama Buttlickers Society for Life. It also is based on the hypothetical of how it would look if the parties were reversed; in the paragraph above, I just explained how you don't need a hypothetical when you've got real evidence. Real, inconvenient evidence.

This is the kind of thing that goes on with "fake news" sites, and the Kostics lap it up without question. But they consider themselves the smart ones.

Fager Fan 02-28-2017 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2127948)
"Try to imagine the reaction of Republicans if the proverbial shoe were on the other foot--if Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or some similar Democrat had been tainted with strong evidence of collaborating with the Russians to win the election. And if, following that, they refused to divulge their financial ties or their campaign’s contacts with the Russian state.* Imagine if their denials turned out time and time again to be outright lies. And then just try to imagine the Democrats in Congress deliberately refusing to investigate such accusations.

The Republicans would call it Treason. And they’d be right."

True dat.

I've never seen the close ties. I think all of this is bogus, just hopes by the Dems that this sticks. We know Hillary got paid to play yet nothing but crickets.

It's really simple. Someone hacked into the emails of one person in the DNC. Because he was stupid enough to fall for a common hack scam. No one else with the DNC and no one at the RNC fell for it, hence why only this one person's emails were disclosed. It's as simple as that. It sure wasn't any real election tampering. It was releasing embarrassing truths.

Fager Fan 02-28-2017 07:43 AM

Obama trying to harm the current President, and therefore the country, is what could be considered betraying your country.

tucker6 02-28-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2128078)
Obama trying to harm the current President, and therefore the country, is what could be considered betraying your country.

Obama isn't betraying his true loyalties though. His country is #17 on his priority list, and I'm not really sure it's that high.

reckless 02-28-2017 08:12 AM

If Michael Flynn or any other member of President Trump's administration did anything remotely close to committing treason, the villains in the intelligence community would have already leaked some of this behavior many times over to their willing fellow travelers in the press and media.

Who we kidding here? There's nothing to sweep under the rug.

barn32 02-28-2017 08:42 AM

You are about to witness a first on Pace Advantage:

Quote:

Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2127948)
"Try to imagine the reaction of Republicans if the proverbial shoe were on the other foot--if Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, or some similar Democrat had been tainted with strong evidence of collaborating with the Russians to win the election. And if, following that, they refused to divulge their financial ties or their campaign’s contacts with the Russian state.* Imagine if their denials turned out time and time again to be outright lies. And then just try to imagine the Democrats in Congress deliberately refusing to investigate such accusations.

The Republicans would call it Treason. And they’d be right."

True dat.

The bolded part is of course true, however:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2127981)
What exactly is this "strong evidence" of collaborating with the Russians to win the election? This is a serious question. Lay it all out. Show me the money.

I can't. It looks like you got me good on that one!

boxcar 02-28-2017 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2128086)
I can't. It looks like you got me good on that one!

No case = Case Closed! Nothing to see in this thread, except the content of leftists' pipe dreams.

delayjf 02-28-2017 11:10 AM

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The Left has always collaborated with the Communists..
The Chinagate scandal comes to mind, anyone remember Chinagate.

Quote:

The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy was an alleged effort by the People's Republic of China to influence domestic American politics prior to and during the Clinton administration and also involved the fund-raising practices of the administration itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_U...ce_controversy

boxcar 02-28-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by delayjf (Post 2128134)
The Chinagate scandal comes to mind, anyone remember Chinagate.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_U...ce_controversy

And there was even a worse scandal than Chinagate. Anyone remember Ted Kennedy? Yeah...the DEMOCRAT Ted Kennedy! A London Times reporter, not too long ago, unearthed a nice bit of very dirty laundry on Ted and how this mighty fine, upstanding, patriotic senator sent an aide to Moscow to secretly meet with high ranking Russian officials to try to cut a quid pro quo deal with a scheme on how the Russians could thwart Reagan's re-election bid in 1984 in exchange for Kennedy's counsel/help on how Russia could sell its nuclear disarmament goals to the American people over American airwaves. And remember: All this was at the height at the cold WAR with Russia -- when the U.S.S.R. was really perceived as a true enemy of the U.S. This is what makes this current Democrat-contrived fiasco with Russia all the more laughably absurd.

theotherside 02-28-2017 12:35 PM

The daily Kos
 
The daily Kos is an extreme left pile of garbage that will say anything to push their progressive left agenda,It cannot be used as a source of legitimate information.I find it interesting that the perceived Russian influence of our election is that they were the supposed source of the Wikileaks that exposed the corruption of the DNC and the E-mail debacle and corruption of Hillary Clinton.So your not mad that the candidate and the party you supported was shown to be corrupt,Your mad because it was exposed! Incredible!

boxcar 02-28-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theotherside (Post 2128159)
The daily Kos is an extreme left pile of garbage that will say anything to push their progressive left agenda,It cannot be used as a source of legitimate information.I find it interesting that the perceived Russian influence of our election is that they were the supposed source of the Wikileaks that exposed the corruption of the DNC and the E-mail debacle and corruption of Hillary Clinton.So your not mad that the candidate and the party you supported was shown to be corrupt,Your mad because it was exposed! Incredible!

Barn is just a good, obedient, slavish mind-numbed, robotic servant following his ex-Muslim-in-Chief's orders to not focus on the content of those emails. Far better to focus on the hackers.

NJ Stinks 02-28-2017 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2128065)
So, as of now, there is no strong evidence.

Blind justice suits you?

Or do you want to find out why Flynn bowed out abruptly?

The GOP cried forever about getting to the "bottom" of what happened in Benghazi. So far the GOP has no curiosity about Flynn and no curiosity as to why the father of a U.S. Navy SEAL killed in the Yemen raid wants an investigation into the reasons why Trump ordered the raid after one week in office.

Not sure you guys realize it but you can't sell the gift of 20/20 vision while driving with no lights on through a tunnel. :rolleyes:

tucker6 02-28-2017 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2128165)
Blind justice suits you?

Or do you want to find out why Flynn bowed out abruptly?

The GOP cried forever about getting to the "bottom" of what happened in Benghazi. So far the GOP has no curiosity about Flynn and no curiosity as to why the father of a U.S. Navy SEAL killed in the Yemen raid wants an investigation into the reasons why Trump ordered the raid after one week in office.

Not sure you guys realize it but you can't sell the gift of 20/20 vision while driving with no lights on through a tunnel. :rolleyes:

Flynn bowed out? I thought he was invited to the door. If any one of us did something and then lied to the boss about it, you can be sure firing is an option on the table. Strong leaders use that tool. Others do not, and give second chances. Flynn lied, which as we know is often far worse than the actual deed. I say deed because talking to the Russians about anything was not a crime.

boxcar 02-28-2017 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2128165)
Blind justice suits you?

Or do you want to find out why Flynn bowed out abruptly?

The GOP cried forever about getting to the "bottom" of what happened in Benghazi. So far the GOP has no curiosity about Flynn and no curiosity as to why the father of a U.S. Navy SEAL killed in the Yemen raid wants an investigation into the reasons why Trump ordered the raid after one week in office.

Not sure you guys realize it but you can't sell the gift of 20/20 vision while driving with no lights on through a tunnel. :rolleyes:

Perhaps if you wish harder than ever for evidence, you'll find some. Think of it as you sitting on the crapper wishing (and pushing) with all your might to take a dump that would relieve you of your chronic constipation. If you manage to extricate something from your bowels, the evidence in the bowl proves your effort was successful. Methinks your toilet bowl will produce the evidence you so earnestly desire long before anyone finds real evidence of collusion between Trump campaign and those pesky Ruskies.

davew 02-28-2017 01:39 PM

The Republicans are still working on the treason involving Clinton, 0bama, and Kerry. Once they are done with that the will have a bunch of time for other stuff like Elijah Cummings using the IRS to harass tea party groups.


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