inspirational Rex Tillerson speech at VMI
 

Lambo, thank you for posting this!! It was worth every minute of my listening.

thank you too, you just made my day.

this guy did not deserve to get shafted like he did. we need more guys like him around the way things are going these days.

A person can be smart and skilled in one walk of life, but a fish out of water in another. He was ill suited to the State Department, and I like Rex Tillerson. He didn't get shafted. He disagreed with his boss on key elements of the strategic direction his boss wanted him to execute. In any company, somebody who had a philosophical difference like that would be shown the door as well. Doesn't make them a bad person or employee. Stuff happens.

He was great concerning China and Saudi Arabia I wish him all the best, thanks
Rex.

Wasn't he the guy that openly pressed for talks with NK...

You know the same things folks in here want to give Trump the Nobel prize for...?

What flavor is the kool aid around here?

is purple a flavor?





Tom Wolfe-1931-2018
-from TEKAAT-



“a perception of the cosmic unity of this higher level. And a feeling of timelessness, the feeling that what we know as time is only the result of a naive faith in causality - the notion that A in the past caused B in the present, which will cause C in the future, when actually A, B, and C are all part of a pattern that can be truly understood only by opening the doors of perception and experiencing it... in this moment... this supreme moment... this Kairos.”

You are misrepresenting what was really going on. It was that either guy disagreed with Trump. It was more along the lines of who could carry the day at the negotiating table.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.76ad01488cb6

“Mike Pompeo has been in sync with President Trump from day one — on North Korea in particular,” Cronin said. “There has been no doubt that he has been instrumental in shaping the administration's maximum-pressure-and-engagement strategy.”

Man you're tough on this Trump guy. Never before in the history of this board have you analyzed and scrutinized a President so mercilessly.

I look forward to this continuing once Trump moves on...cause I certainly don't remember this "enthusiasm" from you when Obama was Prez...

I second that motion! I listened to the speech while working on my spreadsheet project.

I was totally wowed that a public figure would give a speech wherein it's core subject was integrity and ethics. And I nearly fell off my chair when he quoted the passage out of John 8.

Tillerson is obviously a man who has great depth to himself. He truly understands this nation's (and indeed the entire world's) core problem and the daunting challenge that lies before all of us -- Truth! To be truthful as way of life is to be a person of integrity. If any of us here feels, thinks or believes that we, as a nation, have missed that mark of truthfulness over these many decades, then perhaps you can begin to appreciate just how tenuous our form of democracy has become. We have been living perilously and recklessly for many, many years -- personally, professionally and politically. For those of you who have been around here for a while and know me, you might recall that I have long maintained that the is country's core problem is first and foremost one of morality (or ethics) -- not politics!

Tillerson gets this. I get this. But how many of you get it?

Stop. He's fair and impartial. Just ask him.

He's also balanced. :D

I wasn't in the minority in that situation. Additionally I do give him credit when he does some things. Mostly around here I just hammer the complete inconsistency of his supporters. In fairness though they have to be because he is completely inconsistent.

Am I wrong though? Wasn't Rex the guy working with the Chinese and trying to open channels of communication when this was tweeted:

https://i1.wp.com/heisenbergreport.c...orth.png?ssl=1

Now though... Peace Prize for Trump... :rolleyes:

Box, yes, you have said these things all along. You sure have.

This address was truly outstanding. I have cared about this man and his qualities since reading the book, Private Empire....the story of Exxon Mobil.

When CBS' Margaret Brennan interviewed him for 60 Minutes and snickered when he spoke of his being an Eagle Scout and his lifetime involvement with scouting...she showed how outclassed she was. ... Rex didn't flinch. She was so far over her head.

And, yes, I get it....I've been tested and humbled enough that I don't know where I'd be without it.

Anyone is welcome to point out a flip flop I've had in my decade on this board.

Happy hunting...

With Trump supporters its literally a weekly event.

I don't get it.

SO?

:lol:

You act like foreign policy is some sort of infinitely static event...no fluidity at all...things don't change...people don't change...policy doesn't change...situations can't flip on a dime...

Plus you're forgetting the most important thing....4d chess.

Once again, Trump has them B-Boppin' & Scattin' all over the place:

:lol::lol:

Whenever you say 4D chess I can't tell if you actually believe that's a "thing" or not...

:p

Of course situations are fluid but in this case Tillerson appears to have been correct and Trump wrong. The people that support Trump are now calling for a possible Peace Prize for talking with North Korea... but just 3 months ago Tillerson's disagreement with Trump that we could talk to the regime was their reason for wanting him canned.

Sure...in this case it was the Good Cop (Tillerson) / Bad Cop (Trump) 4dchess move that turned N. Korea.

Of course, things don't look so rosy the last couple of days...but we'll see.

On your recommendation I listened end to end and found his speech to be the perfect speech of inspiration to those ready to cut teeth at the start of careers.

Good cop got fired for doing a "good" job. 5D Chess... boom! ;)

And of course they don't... we've added Bolton and Pompeo and backed out of the Iran deal.

NK is gonna play every leverage card it has the whole way out now. Plus they obviously have what they feel is a legitimate nuclear deterrent at this point.

In the real world you get fired for policy that is not the company. Rex Tillerson is a serious leader deserving credit for being top shelf management who fits in any industry, he just did not fit inside the government expressing President Donald J. Trumps policy and objectives well. Two distinctly different titans in approach, the mistake to not yield to the BBM. I can't say bad of someone who once was the BBM for that many years.

Who knows... he did call him an idiot. ;)

NK should be interesting from here on out... everyone gonna have to suit up in their big boy pants.

Good chance for Team Trump to prove its mettle. One things they've done is built this thing up quite a bit. That will bite them if it falls through but I'd rather that be the case than begin negotiating before we begin negotiating.

Things are not what you want, I am not talking about NK. You have much to prove here that you don't have one thumb up your butt and the other in your mouth because of your hate for the President. Do yourself a real big favor and if by chance things work out in NK for EVERYONE, understand that your thought process is not the only way and just maybe it is time to be reserved enough for other positives to occur.

Very sage advice. :ThmbUp:

I lived in Indonesia when I was 28, and thought I had everything figured out. I was a young buck full of himself and going places within the company and in life. I was in an expat bar one night in Surabaya and was drinking/eating with about 6-7 other nationalities. We were talking geopolitics of the day, and on issues that I thought I was completely locked down correct with, one of the other expats would come back with a point of view or solution or methodology that I had never thought about. Cultural differences can and do bring about varied positive solutions to the same problems. That night in Surabaya was over 25 years ago, but I learned valuables lessons that night which have helped me many, many times over the course of my life, and that is don't assume you have all the answers, even when you KNOW you do. The moment you have all the answers is when you're truly lost.

You've now called fast a sage... :lol::lol:

I wasn't even arguing with him. He just can't help himself at this point.

But we can keep taking fiscal advice from the guy who coats his toilets in gold. ;)

A person can provide sage advice without being a sage. I can grow sage without being called a sage farmer. :lol:

From my limited experience with negotiations, I originally thought that the rosy pronouncements about North Korea wanting peace, scrapping their nukes, etc. was WAY too easy. Everyone assumes that Kim is a simpleton, but he surely has some very smart people advising him. He's his own Good Kop/Bad Kop. It will be interesting going forward to see where this goes, if anywhere. I think this was a masterful play if he wants concessions.

I suspect you truly do. You probably also realize that due to all the corruption in government, our constitutional Republic is in deadly peril. The moral decay in this nation will be our undoing. We simply cannot continue to entertain two standards of justice and hope to survive.

Truly amazing that the Dems thought he was a horrible Secretary of State, and then admonished his firing.


Now he speaks 'supposedly' to them and they embrace him.


Did you Lefties ever entertain the thought of that one simple statement over 22 minutes that he was talking about Dems?


Of course not.

You don't think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize?

Months ago North Korea threatened to nuke Guam and San Francisco for crissakes and now Fat Boy meets with the South Korean president on the DMZ border and then agrees to a meeting with Trump ... and you think that's not an achievement of Trump's??

About Tillerson ... he got fired NOT because he wanted to open talks with North Korea.

Tillerson decided to be pawn and a puppet of the anti-America traitors in our CIA and NSA -- James Clapper and William Brennan to name just two.

These guys led the 'intelligence' community for decades and the USA has become a diplomatic joke and a paper tiger under their tenure.

Tillerson also publicly called Trump a moron, as you often remind us. You and a few others on here may think that's cute but it is a sign of stupidity and a lack of class. I am a big fan of Tillerson and his life history and record of achievement but he had to go. Plus, Mike Pompeo is the better choice in every job he's considered for.

The kool aid that you drink is piss poor in both taste, quality and common sense.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150412054015

Answer the question ...


Do you, or do you not think Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize?

NO.

For what?

That's funny considering Obama actually got it and how did that turn out???

https://www.wsj.com/articles/obamas-...ter-1475795772

:headbanger:

So since one person got it who didn't deserve it another one should too?

I'll take one while we are at it. :headbanger:

Never said such a thing....
I just don't recall you railing against Obama and his Nobel....
Seems to be a double standard if ya ask me,,,,
:popcorn::popcorn:

I was asked a yes/no question 3 posts up.

Trumps not yet awarded Peace Prize already has a topic among his fanboys on here... hence the meme.

It's discussion gets the same :rolleyes: Obama got.

President Trump has stated when asked about the Nobel peace prize

"Peace is the prize."

For ending the Korean War that started in June of 1950, that's why.

You know what ... if Trump gets his deserved Nobel Peace Prize he should tell them to shove it.

Results is what counts, and all the stupidity by the Trump hating kindergarten class won't change a thing. Against 90+ percent anti-Trump media coverage, and 95 percent of the lunatics on PA OT general, Trump still has accomplished more in these first 18 months than the last 3-4 presidents combined.

But to the juveniles on board, the treason committed by the DoJ, FBI, CIA, etc., is not wrong at all since it's directed at Trump.

Not a single mention ... it's OK for the FBI and CIA to illegally declare war on our President and our citizens; that's OK to the haters and the clowns.

Why have you kept quiet by this?

I am a proud fanboy, so any attempt to discredit me by calling me that won't work. It's your foolishness that is already on record; your legacy so to speak.

:1: Its over? I must have missed that...

:2: Because you are moving the target because even you know nothing has really been accomplished in NK yet but you are ready to give him a prize. That topic has ZERO to do with the one your brought up in regards to the peace prize.