Right here:

http://blog.horseplayersassociation.org/

On Saturday, where a post is, we'll have a live blog window, where anyone can make comments or picks. If people are interested it'll run from about 6:50 to 11:30, or whenever the races are over (I think Woodbine would be ending last at 11:30 or so).

If we don't get enough people, I will probably be there talking to myself, which is nothing new for me :)

Pop by if you'd like. Maybe we can catch some winners and up the handle at Tioga.

Thanks
 

I'll plan on checking it out. Thanks

Hey Dean, you too ?....I thought it was only I....Hello "me"...:jump:

best,

Nick/Jason---This year the BigM started a "drivers choice" feature. They let the betting public know which horse among the ones the driver was listed on he took for his drive. I think on Sunday driver Jason Bartlett was named on as many as five horses in the same race. Maybe you could include this info on your new handicapper's page. The BigM has Sam Mckee announce it before each race.

I see Mel's ex ROIis 113%. I plan on betting $20 ex's all weekend on his picks. You can thank me later for the price killing :)

Seriously, a couple good hits there dude. Well done. :ThmbUp:

Voice
 

Hate to mention it but Roger (Voice) Huston has been doing that for years. Recently they have added the graphics too!

They stopped announcing the claims prior to the race and only call it after the race has been run. Wish they would go back and tell us who is claimed. All the backside and every security guard on the track hear it 15 minutes till the race as they broadcast it to security. You might have to tip your guard to get that info presently.

Back to back bombs by Melman $33.40 and $41.80 :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: .
Also to Tone $41.80, DeanT $41.80 plus ex $91.00 :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: .
and to Augie16 $33.40 :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: , and last but not least me $41.80 :jump:
Almost forgot Beaucap winner $41.80:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
Way to go:ThmbUp:

I'm having a "Tioga Party" at my house tonight. Needless to say it's getting a little wild. Well maybe a lot wild. :lol:

Huge night for Mel!!! Congrats.

Thanks to everyone who came to the blog, too. WE had quite a few readers, which is good for a first time.

Good luck tomorrow!!!

Lineage
 

Great capping Mel...sorry to bringing the Pencils team down....Corey Braden brings them bombs like his Dad Gary did back in the day....come to think about it, Corey is better...lol

Sorry for the excess for the team...hope to pull my weight tomorrow!
rtd
aka bobby z

Correction
 

Should of read:

Sorry for the excess WEIGHT for the team...hope to pull my weight tomorrow!
rtd
aka bobby z

Congrats to mel and others for some nice returns and great capping last night

Mel $90.60
Mirror Image $60.90
DeanT $60.40
tone3 $53.80
Beaucap $52.50
Augie16 $40.20

My bad night was topped off with a power outage :mad: , had just enough battery juice with an ac converter to watch the Pens.

Yes, Mel
 

We will do that Mel, and try to get them on the feed as well for next week.

Nick/Jason---One other request/idea I have for you guys. Give a call to Freehold Raceway and see if you could get the GREAT Larry Lederman to come up and be a guest race caller on a Sunday. Not only is he a great race caller who gets ALL the calls RIGHT, he also has a lot of fun doing it. With Larry you get a lot of different callers. He does a very good Tom Durkin, Roger Huston, "Bullet Bob Myer" Dave Johnson and a super funny Jackie Mason. No I am not related to Mr Lederman :) I just really enjoy his talent.

Also I think your race sec/morning line guy is doing a great job. Give that man a raise. :D

Larry Lederman
 

Love the idea Mel.
I second the motion on the floor.

Easy Mel...
 

We practice moderation with Bluhm, not too high...not too low...he may abandon us for reality TV's "Celebrity Race Secretary Handicappers". That just can't have a happy ending.

LL is penciled in for a week or two this summer...we like him as well.

Two questions for the TIOGA TEAM for Sun. May 9/10. Both in the 'HOW COME?' department:

1. How come TIOGA DOWNS is not on the www.brisnet.com online toteboard today? I think I've seen it on there on some previous days. Maybe AMTOTE is asleep at the switch? You may have to phone them and tell them to WAKE UP! An online toteboard is very important for bettors.

2. How come TIOGA DOWNS is on the list of tracks that LINK2BET.COM covers, yet is not on their betting menu today?

Thanks,

T2W

Tioga Downs
 

I watched the 12th race today at Tioga Downs on live video, and didn't realize a couple of things. I didn't know Tioga Downs was a 5/8's of a mile harness oval. I had assumed it was a 1/2 mile oval. Then when I watched this 12th race, I saw that they race 9 horses across on the starting gate. Of course, if I had checked out the information for this track at www.ustrotting.com ahead of time, I could have learned all about these things...duh! :D

I must say it was a pretty exciting race to watch and listen to. I don't know the name of the announcer, but I was impressed by his call of the race.

T2W
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ADWS Covering Tioga Downs
 

I haven't been able to find any list online of ADWS carrying Tioga Downs. So I thought I would start a list of the ADWS I know that carry this track:

1. YOU BET

2. BET AMERICA (Canadian residents can also open an account at this ADW and wager and watch the Tioga Downs races online)

3. TWIN SPIRES

4. ?

5. ?

6. ?

---Please add to this list of other ADWS you know carry TIOGA DOWNS. In my opinion, this track deserves all the extra help we can give them, as a reward for their initiative of lowering their track takeouts this year. :ThmbUp:

Thanks,

T2W

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ADWS Carrying Tioga Downs
 

Looks like there a lot of PA members too lazy to do a search to find more ADWS that carry the Tioga Downs races. It's okay, I found a couple more to make it five I've found so far. The revised list is now:

1. YOU BET

2. BET AMERICA

3. TWIN SPIRES

4. DAY AT THE TRACK

5. XPRESSBET


T2W
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on the new page
 

[QUOTE=trying2win]Looks like there a lot of PA members too lazy to do a search to find more ADWS that carry the Tioga Downs races. It's okay, I found a couple more to make it five I've found so far. The revised list is now:

1. YOU BET

2. BET AMERICA

3. TWIN SPIRES

4. DAY AT THE TRACK

5. XPRESSBET


[QUOTE]

as I believe you suggested...

http://www.tiogadowns.com/Supporting...s/partners.pdf

To the Tioga Team:

Thanks for the link. I was checking out your website earlier in the day to see if you had such a link for ADW partners. My oversight...sorry I slipped up. I couldn't see the trees for the forest. :D

That is one very handy list you compiled for harness bettors to know about. Good show!

Thanks,

T2W

Ebet USA
 

You can add Ebet USA (Penn National's wagering platform).
PhoneBet (Pha Park wagering)platform)
https://www.ibetmohegan.com/racing/ (Mohegan Sun wagering platform)

In essence, all Pa ADW carry Tioga.
Still no word on both Wheeling Downs and Mountaineer. Maybe a marketing person should give them both a call.

Any projection of what the handle is at compared to last year?

same here
 

Wondering if the Tioga team knows anything about the numbers compared to last year. thanks.

Numbers
 

Guys,

This is Dustin, I work with Nick, Jason B., and Jason S. at Tioga with simulcast, publicity, and a few other things. I dont have the exact numbers on hand for the first two opening weekends, but when I get back to work tomorrow I will look them up and let you guys know how we are compared to last year. Thanks for all your support so far this year!

To the Tioga Team:

Hopefully, you won't forget about these questions I asked yesterday. Actually, forget about question 2. I'll contact LINK2BET and ask them why.

By the way, when I was watching one of the Tioga Downs races yesterday on live video, I noticed you had a line something like this on your infield toteboard:

'THE LOWEST TAKEOUT IN THE LAND'

--I thought that was a great idea. :ThmbUp: Hopefully, some unenlightened racetrack executives from other tracks saw that sign on the Tioga Downs live video, and a light bulb went on.

Thanks,

T2W

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Way to go BobbyZ thanks to your efforts our felt-tip pen and pencil squad put a hurting on those "geeks" last night. : As an old time trainer once said to his go to driver "go to the front and then improve your position". :) I had a severe case of 2nd and 3rd "its" last night but you carried the ball for the team.

Surprised
 

Thank you Mel
You be surprised at what you can learn from watching the races. First week, I was at mountaineer who did not carry the signal and Sunday, I forgot it was a matinee..I was also too lazy to view the videos on archive at my ADW. Last week and this week I watch them and use those troubled trip horses that had pace or trot at the end of the mile....gotta love that..no computer sees that.

thanks again.
bobby z

Who's the jumper ? #2 Dancinwiththestarz in the 2nd
had $10,593. out of the $11,125. bet to place,no splash today :D .

Not Me
 

Not me....Tioga does not need that kind of handle..those minus pools suck for the bottom line plus the loss of breakage is a loss for the purses. Although she is one of the top fillies I have seen so far this year. I never could understand the reasoning of getting $2.10 on your money..

To the TIOGA TEAM:

I contacted LINK2BET.COM, and they told me they had TIOGA DOWNS on their betting menus all along. However, they have 3 or 4 betting platforms on that website, and TIOGA DOWNS was missing on one of them. I guess that must have been the one I was looking at recently, and thought your track was missing altogether from their site. Looks like that oversight has been corrected.

By the way, I noticed that TIOGA DOWNS has been added recently to the betting menu at HPI. At least HPI members can also use the toteboard on that site, as TIOGA DOWNS has again been missing on the BRIS SUPERTOTE the last two days. Did you forget to contact AMTOTE to correct that omission? It makes it difficult for many online bettors, who would like to use the BRIS SUPERTOTE for info in making TIOGA DOWNS bets.

T2W

I spoke to soon, in the 5th #1 Felling You had something like
$20,000 of the $21,000 that was in the place pool.
I know it will never happen but I would like to see all place and
show betting eliminated on all races and force that money into
just the win pool or exotics :eek:

My Theory
 

It came to me that maybe the tracks that do not desire to lower their retention rates decided to pool their slush funds and will be taking bridge jumper positions on stake races at Tioga this meet. I realize that it is far from that happening in the real world but I always play "What if" in my mind. That scenario came up. I think the fact that they have a chance of losing the wad would make it highly improbable to happen....but What If it did?

Online Toteboard
 

Since I've asked here several times why TIOGA DOWNS is not on the BRISNET SUPERTOTE, it appears no one has done anything about it. I don't whether its because of GOOD SOUND REASONS, or REASONS THAT SOUND GOOD. However, I found this link for an online toteboard for anyone wanting to check up on the latest on minutes to post, odds, results for TIOGA DOWNS:

http://www.prcharness.com/Simulcasti...toteboard.html

T2W

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t2w

Twin Spires (Brisnet's sister company) carries Tioga's signal and live video.
It's strange it's not on their SuperTote.

I use a spreadsheet program that searches for Jumpers, Harville Exacta overlays and WPS-tote board oddities and the pool averages from yesterday were:


Win.....Place......Show....Exacta....Trifecta....D oubles.......Pic3
$2760....$896....*$1299....$4873......$4775....... .$2200.......$1079

*Show pool average includes Bridge jumper(s) in Race 6 ~$9,000

I have the Tioga Unofficial Handle for Yesterday at $191,465 with these average pools.

Woud love to see it approach 400k by season's end.

Ray:

Thanks for your efforts in getting this info. :ThmbUp: Very interesting.

T2W
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Tioga handle and attendance from web site on 5/23
 

There was a very nice "spike" in pool totals last nite at Tioga. Couple of win pools over $8,000. Exotic pools were much better later in the night. Hope this keeps up. Maybe it was the Sunday night racing. Just glad to see it.