Recent Win Prices
 

The average Win Payouts have been pretty constant over the years, just a slight decline.

But something happened in May-Jun, see the chart, that's getting hard to explain by normal variation.

The biggest drops have been at Scioto, Harrington, Meadowlands, The Meadows and Yonkers,
more than a dollar off prior year averages.

Just curious, What do you blame the drop on?

This is sort of on the same line but I always see the pick 5 pool really low at woodbine all the time. Like in the first race they would have (let’s say) $150k in the pool and then the race is over and there is magically $50k left and it dwindles down to no money at all!

That's not the pool...I think you're talking about the amount of live money left.

I don't follow harness other than just some casual Meadowlands or Freehold watching, but haven't Meadowlands' field sizes fallen drastically? Fields were always full there but now I see 7-horse races quite frequently. That could easily explain lower payoffs.

Ray,
If you'd like to see some off the chart declines?
Look at Miami Valley for 2017 & 2018.
2017 the Pct of favorites was 12% for the entire meet.
2018 was normal.

FWIW the decline at Scioto (almost always a short price track) was due to the Dominance of Dan Noble and a few other drivers.
This dominance has carried over to Dayton, where Jeremy Smith has unheard of numbers (at least for Jeremy). But just a few top all the others. Very unusual for Dayton.

Jeremy smith is now getting first call for Dan Maier Who uses the same products as adam short, dan noble , and tyler george. When you have 3 or 4 guys who have that strong an edge it leads to lower and lower prices in southern Ohio.

I haven't seen a lot of money in the win, place and show pools at Mohawk. Usually only a couple $1000.

castaway01

That's a big part of the drop at Meadowlands. Doing this by track runs into small sample sizes. For all tracks, the number of races since 6/1/18 is 18,500 but for the BigM it's only 276

Oddly enough, 5 tracks show an increase in payoffs, Saratoga, Tioga, Vernon, Pocono and Georgian Downs.:confused:

HHE10

You can check the pool sizes at
http://standardbredcanada.ca/results...list/WBSBS/ALL
typically 25,000-30,000
The number you're seeing might be the pool at the time of your bet. Most of the money comes in late.


wilderness, baconswitchfarm

The falloff in win price at Dayton is $1.10 over 450 races since Jun 1 compared to prior year averages.


All I know for sure is my accounts have taken a nose dive since June 1.....:mad:

Thanks to all who voted

smaller fields?