TimeformUS Speed Figures - Belmont day added
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luisbe |
05-19-2018 10:15 PM |
So the Preakness wasn't a slow race at all. There surely was a change on track conditions.
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Originally Posted by luisbe
(Post 2319127)
So the Preakness wasn't a slow race at all. There surely was a change on track conditions.
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It was actually consistent all day long, sprint and route, speed wise.
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elysiantraveller |
05-19-2018 10:19 PM |
I wasn't expecting to see that.
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GMB@BP |
05-19-2018 10:28 PM |
that pace again, 140 is not slow at all, think i heard randy moss say that it was an easy pace. I think he is still using his pace figures.
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luisbe |
05-19-2018 10:38 PM |
Preliminary Beyer: 97
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papillon |
05-19-2018 10:55 PM |
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Originally Posted by luisbe
(Post 2319149)
Preliminary Beyer: 97
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Is this real or a joke?
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Spalding No! |
05-19-2018 10:56 PM |
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Originally Posted by papillon
(Post 2319157)
Is this real or a joke?
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As point of comparison, Irish War Cry's Pimlico Special at the same distance (a day earlier) registered a 100 Beyer.
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GMB@BP |
05-19-2018 11:02 PM |
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Originally Posted by papillon
(Post 2319157)
Is this real or a joke?
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real, and given relative beyer figures, about 25+/- points lower in graded route races from Timeform it does line up pretty well.
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metro |
05-19-2018 11:05 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by luisbe
(Post 2319127)
So the Preakness wasn't a slow race at all. There surely was a change on track conditions.
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Was thinking the same, something commonly seen on big days like this when there is a big time gap between dirt races. My question would be... do they work the track (the same way as otherwise) between the Sir Barton and Preakness when they have all the pre-race stuff going on?
Splits of Sir Barton were pretty much on par with Preakness...
SB - 23:56, 46:96, 1:11:30, 1:36:19
PR - 23:11, 47:19, 1:11:42, 1:36:10
...yet closers didn't crack the top 3 in the former, an hour later and the speed is desperate for the wire. Yes there are other variables, weight, distance, class, horses dueling rather than loose on lead, etc.. but just seems odd that a one run type like Lone Sailor could make up 8 lengths on the Derby winner, in the span of two weeks, on a track that had been so speed favoring up to that point.
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GMB@BP |
05-19-2018 11:08 PM |
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Originally Posted by metro
(Post 2319167)
Was thinking the same, something commonly seen on big days like this when there is a big time gap between dirt races. My question would be... do they work the track (the same way as otherwise) between the Sir Barton and Preakness when they have all the pre-race stuff going on?
Splits of Sir Barton were pretty much on par with Preakness...
SB - 23:56, 46:96, 1:11:30, 1:36:19
PR - 23:11, 47:19, 1:11:42, 1:36:10
...yet closers didn't crack the top 3 in the former, an hour later and the speed is desperate for the wire. Yes there are other variables, weight, distance, class, horses dueling rather than loose on lead, etc.. but just seems odd that a one run type like Lone Sailor could make up 8 lengths on the Derby winner, in the span of two weeks, on a track that had been so speed favoring up to that point.
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To me given the relative distances that Preakness pace feels faster.
edit: duh, guess I should look up first.
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menifee |
05-20-2018 03:45 AM |
CJ
Did all the also rans in the Preakness (other than Good Magic) run career tops on your numbers?
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Originally Posted by menifee
(Post 2319268)
CJ
Did all the also rans in the Preakness (other than Good Magic) run career tops on your numbers?
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Lemon Drop Husker |
05-20-2018 12:14 PM |
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Originally Posted by cj
(Post 2319428)
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I think you gave Quip too high a rating. :pound:
That was just plain awful in which they "skip" the Derby and do that.
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
(Post 2319429)
I think you gave Quip too high a rating. :pound:
That was just plain awful in which they "skip" the Derby and do that.
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He was my pick to finish last in the Derby before they decided to skip. Never thought all that much of him.
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