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dilanesp 05-15-2020 12:30 PM

Churchill and TVG are fighting
 

rispa 05-15-2020 12:45 PM

Money changes everything.

cj 05-15-2020 12:46 PM

Churchill is always fighting with someone.

PhantomOnTour 05-15-2020 12:49 PM

I just wish I could be at Pimlico today with my extended family and friends playing the horses on Black Eyed Susan Day....it's always my favorite day of the year :(

Redboard 05-15-2020 01:07 PM

Fox Sports
 
Not a problem, for me anyway. FS2 will televise from 1pm-2:30pm. FS1 from 2:30pm-6pm. The only race not being shown tomorrow is the last race which is scheduled at 6:16pm.

Not sure about Sunday or the other days.

GMB@BP 05-15-2020 01:26 PM

Yea, shocking, the track that doesnt sell the DRF is causing problems with their signal...who would have thunk it.

Tom 05-15-2020 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour (Post 2602718)
I just wish I could be at Pimlico today with my extended family and friends playing the horses on Black Eyed Susan Day....it's always my favorite day of the year :(

You can go in October on Pumpkin Blossom Day!:ThmbUp:

JustRalph 05-15-2020 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2602716)
Churchill is always fighting with someone.

This thread could have been started every year for the last 20 years

Tom 05-15-2020 01:50 PM

Unbelievable the morons who run CD.
I'd play Fonner Park if they ran head to head.

Any damn day.

ReplayRandall 05-15-2020 01:54 PM

The largest horse racing tourney site, Horsetourneys.com, told CDI to shove it over 3 years ago....No one misses CD, what a bunch of A-holes.

therussmeister 05-15-2020 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2602748)
Not a problem, for me anyway. FS2 will televise from 1pm-2:30pm. FS1 from 2:30pm-6pm. The only race not being shown tomorrow is the last race which is scheduled at 6:16pm.

Not sure about Sunday or the other days.

It looks like back to FS2 for the last race.

https://www.nyra.com/belmont/racing/tv-schedule

the little guy 05-15-2020 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2602748)
Not a problem, for me anyway. FS2 will televise from 1pm-2:30pm. FS1 from 2:30pm-6pm. The only race not being shown tomorrow is the last race which is scheduled at 6:16pm.

Not sure about Sunday or the other days.

We are on until 6:30 all weekend. All races will be shown.

NTamm1215 05-15-2020 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2602787)
The largest horse racing tourney site, Horsetourneys.com, told CDI to shove it over 3 years ago....No one misses CD, what a bunch of A-holes.

LOL. You have that backwards. HorseTourneys is not in position to deny content from anyone.

ReplayRandall 05-15-2020 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 2602888)
LOL. You have that backwards. HorseTourneys is not in position to deny content from anyone.

You're cracking wise while CDI tried to hamstring horsetourneys after suddenly wanting a huge increase in a "FEE", 3 years ago....You know little of what's going on with this situation and the settlements that were made with other tracks....Derby Wars got walloped and has never recovered their loss of customers.

Horsetourneys is NOT an ADW, they just run tourneys ONLY off of publicly published race results.

Redboard 05-15-2020 05:36 PM

I've been boycotting Churchill for over ten years now, not even betting the derby day card. But with the garbage tracks that the industry's been rolling out the past month, Remington, Fonner (sorry Tom, but I've never seem Monomoy Girl run there), this weekend's CD card looks like Breeders Cup weekend(only compared to those tracks, I'm not saying the weekend card is great). I can't hold out any longer.

Who cares if TVG isn't televising it. You don't see the same NFL game on two channels, do you?

cj 05-15-2020 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2602995)
I've been boycotting Churchill for over ten years now, not even betting the derby day card. But with the garbage tracks that the industry's been rolling out the past month, Remington, Fonner (sorry Tom, but I've never seem Monomoy Girl run there), this weekend's CD card looks like Breeders Cup weekend(only compared to those tracks, I'm not saying the weekend card is great). I can't hold out any longer.

Who cares if TVG isn't televising it. You don't see the same NFL game on two channels, do you?

Hey, watch it now. Remington is a pretty nice track! I'm going to guess you meant Will Rogers. Remington is running quarters right now.

Tom 05-15-2020 05:55 PM

I like Remington Park.

Mon Gal might be racing tomorrow, but seriously, I could not care less. What will she be, 1-9?

Give me a time restricted nickel claimer any day, over most all Grade 1 stakes. I like trainers and riders who NEED to win a purse to eat - gets them out of the gate a lot better and sustains the stretch drive. :headbanger:

TMQ 05-15-2020 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2602995)
I've been boycotting Churchill for over ten years now, not even betting the derby day card. But with the garbage tracks that the industry's been rolling out the past month, Remington, Fonner (sorry Tom, but I've never seem Monomoy Girl run there), this weekend's CD card looks like Breeders Cup weekend(only compared to those tracks, I'm not saying the weekend card is great). I can't hold out any longer.

Who cares if TVG isn't televising it. You don't see the same NFL game on two channels, do you?

Actually yes there are numerous NFL games on 2 channels at once.......

cj 05-15-2020 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMQ (Post 2603126)
Actually yes there are numerous NFL games on 2 channels at once.......

He said the same game. Occasionally you'll get it on network tv and the NFL Network on a Thursday night, but the vast majority of NFL games are on only one channel.

Bennie 05-15-2020 11:44 PM

Unless you live in the NY metro area. You can usually find the Jets and Giants on 2 and 5 and also on their own network station. Not a fan of either.

metro 05-16-2020 02:15 PM

Churchill is basically doing to TVG what TVG does to tracks like Fonner and Will Rogers Downs. Just comes down to who holds the cards.

ultracapper 05-16-2020 04:57 PM

:popcorn:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2603017)
I like Remington Park.

Mon Gal might be racing tomorrow, but seriously, I could not care less. What will she be, 1-9?

Give me a time restricted nickel claimer any day, over most all Grade 1 stakes. I like trainers and riders who NEED to win a purse to eat - gets them out of the gate a lot better and sustains the stretch drive. :headbanger:

I've been living that for 15 years now. Give me competitive fields of N2Ls all day long and I'm the happiest punter you'll find.

Redboard 05-16-2020 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultracapper (Post 2603552)
:popcorn:

I've been living that for 15 years now. Give me competitive fields of N2Ls all day long and I'm the happiest punter you'll find.

I need shippers or it gets really boring.

Redboard 05-16-2020 05:56 PM

TLG is alive in the late pick 4 with one race to go, the 11th race. With four selections: 3,5,6 & 15

cj 05-16-2020 05:57 PM

I've got no love lost for Churchill, but it isn't just them. Sport has practically the whole day in the spotlight, but we have to switch channels to watch different tracks constantly. Fox Sports has Churchill and TVG doesn't, but on the other hand TVG has Gulfstream and Santa Anita while Fox Sports does not.

Sport is so frustrating sometimes...

Zydeco 05-16-2020 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2603603)
I've got no love lost for Churchill, but it isn't just them. Sport has practically the whole day in the spotlight, but we have to switch channels to watch different tracks constantly. Fox Sports has Churchill and TVG doesn't, but on the other hand TVG has Gulfstream and Santa Anita while Fox Sports does not.

Sport is so frustrating sometimes...

Totally agree CJ. Watched FS1 for a while then realised they didn't have Gulfstream. Back to TvG. It's ridiculous.

metro 05-16-2020 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2603602)
TLG is alive in the late pick 4 with one race to go, the 11th race. With four selections: 3,5,6 & 15

Brutal beat, winner pounded late, 22-1 at the gate, 12-1 at the wire. Lezcano's only mount for the weekend in Louisville. Somebody made their year on that one.

Tom 05-16-2020 06:57 PM

TRN.....screw 'em all! :headbanger:

Immortal6 05-16-2020 09:56 PM

My dad called and asked if I wanted to bet the late pick 4 today...told him I couldn’t, the product there today was just terrible imo. For all the flak Cali racing gets the fields have been full, competitive, and formful there to start the meet.

classhandicapper 05-17-2020 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2603603)
I've got no love lost for Churchill, but it isn't just them. Sport has practically the whole day in the spotlight, but we have to switch channels to watch different tracks constantly. Fox Sports has Churchill and TVG doesn't, but on the other hand TVG has Gulfstream and Santa Anita while Fox Sports does not.

Sport is so frustrating sometimes...

It's not an ideal situation, but I think most serious players have more than one ADW account. It's not difficult to get the live video feed from all the tracks you are playing if you have multiple accounts. It used to bother me that I needed multiple accounts, but we've seen some big races day where one or another stopped functioning properly. So it seems like you need multiple accounts as a backup regardless of the live track feeds.

I guess it's more of a problem for less serious fans that we are trying to attract on TV.

SandyW 05-17-2020 11:24 AM

I saw the President T.Kevin Flanery from Churchill Downs yesterday on Fox Sports saying how much Churchill supports horse racing, what a bunch of bull crap.
What Churchill has done to Illinois racing and Arlington racing is beyond belief.

BIG49010 05-17-2020 11:59 AM

With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

cj 05-17-2020 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG49010 (Post 2603903)
With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

Since they also own TwinSpires, I'd guess they made a solid profit.

the little guy 05-17-2020 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG49010 (Post 2603903)
With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

Handle was over $14 million.

Accuracy is sure at a premium around here.

BIG49010 05-17-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2603907)
Handle was over $14 million.

Accuracy is sure at a premium around here.


Sorry didn't sit down and add it up, that's why 11+, figured close enough for discussion

iwearpurple 05-17-2020 12:16 PM

He was accurate.

It was over 11,000,000

Suff 05-17-2020 12:45 PM

Kentucky Mafia
 
I can only use broad strokes and the one I'm using is Alex Waldrop leaving the NHC early because he had horse racing business to attend to.

I liken what he did to Roger Goodell leaving the superbowl at half-time to attend to NFL business.

Maybe a sick kid in the hospital, etc.. who knows?. But other than something like that? What other horse racing business could be more important than being there at the Trophy Presentation for the players that pay the bills.

Redboard 05-17-2020 01:19 PM

Santa Anita is claiming $14.3M for yesterday.

dilanesp 05-17-2020 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2603961)
Santa Anita is claiming $14.3M for yesterday.

There was huge pent up demand to bet Santa Anita out here. NYRA is going to see something similar when they reopen in June.

Mason 05-17-2020 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2603961)
Santa Anita is claiming $14.3M for yesterday.

Here are the handle figures for May 16

Churchill:
Handle - $14,288,161
Purses - $466,300
Horses ran - 117

Santa Anita:
Handle - $14,219,186
Purses - $627,000
Horses ran - 95

Gulfstream: Off the Turf
Handle - $11,804,266
Purses - $460,000
Horses ran - 75

Tampa Bay:
Handle - $7,239,790
Purses - $125,800
Horses ran - 78

Golden Gate:
Handle - $6,563,937
Purses - $216,000
Horses ran - 88

Charles Town:
Handle - $3,847,767
Purses - $157,500
Horses ran - 73


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