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SandyW 05-17-2020 11:24 AM

I saw the President T.Kevin Flanery from Churchill Downs yesterday on Fox Sports saying how much Churchill supports horse racing, what a bunch of bull crap.
What Churchill has done to Illinois racing and Arlington racing is beyond belief.

BIG49010 05-17-2020 11:59 AM

With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

cj 05-17-2020 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG49010 (Post 2603903)
With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

Since they also own TwinSpires, I'd guess they made a solid profit.

the little guy 05-17-2020 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG49010 (Post 2603903)
With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

Handle was over $14 million.

Accuracy is sure at a premium around here.

BIG49010 05-17-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2603907)
Handle was over $14 million.

Accuracy is sure at a premium around here.


Sorry didn't sit down and add it up, that's why 11+, figured close enough for discussion

iwearpurple 05-17-2020 12:16 PM

He was accurate.

It was over 11,000,000

Suff 05-17-2020 12:45 PM

Kentucky Mafia
 
I can only use broad strokes and the one I'm using is Alex Waldrop leaving the NHC early because he had horse racing business to attend to.

I liken what he did to Roger Goodell leaving the superbowl at half-time to attend to NFL business.

Maybe a sick kid in the hospital, etc.. who knows?. But other than something like that? What other horse racing business could be more important than being there at the Trophy Presentation for the players that pay the bills.

Redboard 05-17-2020 01:19 PM

Santa Anita is claiming $14.3M for yesterday.

dilanesp 05-17-2020 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2603961)
Santa Anita is claiming $14.3M for yesterday.

There was huge pent up demand to bet Santa Anita out here. NYRA is going to see something similar when they reopen in June.

Mason 05-17-2020 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2603961)
Santa Anita is claiming $14.3M for yesterday.

Here are the handle figures for May 16

Churchill:
Handle - $14,288,161
Purses - $466,300
Horses ran - 117

Santa Anita:
Handle - $14,219,186
Purses - $627,000
Horses ran - 95

Gulfstream: Off the Turf
Handle - $11,804,266
Purses - $460,000
Horses ran - 75

Tampa Bay:
Handle - $7,239,790
Purses - $125,800
Horses ran - 78

Golden Gate:
Handle - $6,563,937
Purses - $216,000
Horses ran - 88

Charles Town:
Handle - $3,847,767
Purses - $157,500
Horses ran - 73

1GCFAN 05-17-2020 09:55 PM

Pretty impressive numbers. The ADWs' are cleaning up. All this with Nevada dark.

lamboguy 05-18-2020 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG49010 (Post 2603903)
With a handle somewhere around $11+ million and giving out $630,000 yesterday what is the guess on how much Churchill made? Break even after everything is paid, anyone venture a guess?

not that much if anything at all.---------------

lamboguy 05-18-2020 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2603906)
Since they also own TwinSpires, I'd guess they made a solid profit.

he asked about Churchill Downs. Twinspires is just a bet taker, a bet taker these days does better than the host track.

biggestal99 05-18-2020 06:22 AM

Had to switch between TVG and TVG2 to get all the races.

Not so bad.

Allan

classhandicapper 05-18-2020 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mason (Post 2604132)
Here are the handle figures for May 16

Churchill:
Handle - $14,288,161
Purses - $466,300
Horses ran - 117

Santa Anita:
Handle - $14,219,186
Purses - $627,000
Horses ran - 95

Gulfstream: Off the Turf
Handle - $11,804,266
Purses - $460,000
Horses ran - 75

Tampa Bay:
Handle - $7,239,790
Purses - $125,800
Horses ran - 78

Golden Gate:
Handle - $6,563,937
Purses - $216,000
Horses ran - 88

Charles Town:
Handle - $3,847,767
Purses - $157,500
Horses ran - 73


That's with 10s of millions of people out of work and some off track betting and simulcast centers closed. One gets the feeling that if the industry was ever organized properly the remaining tracks would make a fortune, the horse shortage would go away, they could raise the purses, lower the take, invest in plant, advertise etc.. Not that I haven't been saying that at least once a week for the last decade. :lol:


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