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Mulerider 06-16-2018 10:17 PM

Irish War Cry
 
Vanned off after being pulled up by J. Ortiz in 2nd turn of the Stephen Foster. Hate to see that.

cj 06-16-2018 10:24 PM

Reported to be ok, just too much heat or something. They were talking about something called the Thumps before the race as well, whatever that is.

GMB@BP 06-16-2018 10:42 PM

Love that horse, its almost predictable when he will run bad and he always takes money.

Mulerider 06-16-2018 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2330184)
Love that horse, its almost predictable when he will run bad and he always takes money.

Yes, I like him too. I was hoping his electrolyte imbalance had been corrected, if that's possible.

I'm also a big fan of 8-year-old Hawaakom.

BIGTKLO 06-16-2018 10:59 PM

Very Disappointing. I was hoping he was gonna put back to back real races together. An extremely disappointing effort. It's time for me to realize he is just not trust worthy. Blue Prize, is a mare I've been on since her narrow loss at Saratoga last summer, looked awesome in victory. Hopefully I haven't given her the jinx.

Fager Fan 06-16-2018 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2330174)
Reported to be ok, just too much heat or something. They were talking about something called the Thumps before the race as well, whatever that is.

“Thumps” are jerking or pulsing movements of the rear part of the rib cage that are said to look like hiccups. Thumping is abnormal, repetitive contraction of the diaphragm in rhythm with the heartbeat. It is a sign of overwork and electrolyte disturbance.

This abnormal condition is usually seen in exhausted horses, and results from excessive loss of calcium, magnesium and potassium, in combination with dehydration and lowering of pH of the blood.


I'm just glad the horse is ok. I worried that he may've broken down. He was being pulled up fairly quickly and never crossed the finish line that I could see.

Robert Fischer 06-17-2018 12:45 AM

His Pimlico special was promising, but if you go back to his Hals Hope he had a golden opportunity and hung badly when put down to win a duel, even with the momentum.

I was rooting for him(as a fan), but my ticket only used him under 'All' so my money was against him. I always liked him during the triple crown trail.

Hope he's OK, and they can find a level for him to shine without emptying his tank so abruptly.

My ticket keyed the longest shot on the board :5: MATROOH in all positions, and :6: BACKYARD HEAVEN only 1st and 2nd slots. 'All' button in the other positions.
The 6 dime-supers cost $4.20 each for a total of $25.20
and I emphasized the potential chalky outcome with one more $4.20 6/all/all/5 , and one 50cent tri 6/all/5. to bring the total to $32.90.

Longest shot on the board got 3rd, but 4/5 Brickyard Heaven couldn't land in the exacta (or anywhere in the superfecta), so loss of $32.90...

ALL/ALL/ALL/5 dime super would've been additional $50.40 (and a loss)
and ALL/ALL/5 50cent tri would've been additional $36 ($86.40 total more) (and a nice score)

wasn't comfortable throwing down the money for an All-to-Matrooh as much as I loved his form and projected trip to translate into a real chance at 4th or 3rd, even though he was the longest shot on the board, because then I'd really have to punch the Brickyard Heaven tickets even more because I felt he was a true favorite, albeit about 8/5 instead of the 4/5 he went off at. When I agree with the favorite, I don't put almost 3x the money betting against him. Have to 'emphasize' chalkier combinations with higher denominations and it gets expensive and complex, so I went with the simple investment that required 2 keys and was easier to profit from a favorite running to his expected ability.

This specific time however the tri paid like $760, but you gotta play the process and not get caught up second-guessing the outcome. No big deal, just won't sleep for 2 days :bang: ;)

Bluto Blutarsky 06-17-2018 11:03 AM

The connections were hoping that by shipping him to Churchill for a night race that it would be cooler and his Thumps problem wouldn`t re-appear. But with the hazy, hot, humid weather. it looks like it did.

jay68802 06-17-2018 11:10 AM

Sort of wonder why they keep racing him on Lasix. Could help some with the dehydration part.

Fager Fan 06-17-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jay68802 (Post 2330264)
Sort of wonder why they keep racing him on Lasix. Could help some with the dehydration part.

I heard it’s a minimal amount, but yes, it seems that Motuon is going to have to figure something else out. It was extremely hot and humid at race time yesterday.

Tom 06-17-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jay68802 (Post 2330264)
Sort of wonder why they keep racing him on Lasix. Could help some with the dehydration part.

Lasix is mandatory, isn't it? :rolleyes:

tanner12oz 06-17-2018 01:53 PM

the thumps issue is reoccuring with him

Fager Fan 06-17-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2330303)
Lasix is mandatory, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Did you really ask that?

bobphilo 06-17-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2330205)
“Thumps” are jerking or pulsing movements of the rear part of the rib cage that are said to look like hiccups. Thumping is abnormal, repetitive contraction of the diaphragm in rhythm with the heartbeat. It is a sign of overwork and electrolyte disturbance.

This abnormal condition is usually seen in exhausted horses, and results from excessive loss of calcium, magnesium and potassium, in combination with dehydration and lowering of pH of the blood.


I'm just glad the horse is ok. I worried that he may've broken down. He was being pulled up fairly quickly and never crossed the finish line that I could see.

Lasix can cause the loss of important electrolytes like calcium,magnesium and potassium. Another reason it should be banned.

cj 06-17-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobphilo (Post 2330348)
Lasix can cause the loss of important electrolytes like calcium,magnesium and potassium. Another reason it should be banned.

Motion himself mentioned Lasix can contribute to thumps so said he was given a minimal dose.


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