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Bennie 03-11-2018 06:47 PM

The story was he is scheduled to hang around for the Santa Anita Derby. Be interesting now to see who ships out to avoid him.

Afleet 03-11-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bennie (Post 2289149)
The story was he is scheduled to hang around for the Santa Anita Derby. Be interesting now to see who ships out to avoid him.

Baffert made it sound like he was shipping Mckenzie for his next race

Robert Fischer 03-11-2018 08:21 PM

can i get an amen?
 
Mourinho to Sunland Derby :)


anyone? anyone?

Afleet 03-11-2018 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer (Post 2289190)
Mourinho to Sunland Derby :)


anyone? anyone?

probable for the Rebel, but so is Solomini. Doesnt seem likely Baffert would run them both

f2tornado 03-11-2018 08:49 PM

Looked impressive beating a short field of non winners other than maiden. He may or may not have Smith next time. Zero points, Storm Cat curse, Apollo curse, and ended up the Derby favorite in Pool 3 (excluding the field). Odd.

jocko699 03-11-2018 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by f2tornado (Post 2289198)
Looked impressive beating a short field of non winners other than maiden. He may or may not have Smith next time. Zero points, Storm Cat curse, Apollo curse, and ended up the Derby favorite in Pool 3 (excluding the field). Odd.

Um, Hillary could not be beaten also. Stats are something to be used but eventually the Storm Cat curse will be stopped. Look at the Cubs!!!!

Vinnie 03-11-2018 09:35 PM

So true!! Very well said jocko699. :)

Vinnie 03-11-2018 09:38 PM

He's also out of Johannesburg and Ghostzapper who was a beast in his day...

jocko699 03-11-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinnie (Post 2289210)
He's also out of Johannesburg and Ghostzapper who was a beast in his day...

One day I may tell you the story of my buddy sitting with Reddam in the owner's box at the BC with Johannesburg.:headbanger:

Vinnie 03-11-2018 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2289211)
One day I may tell you the story of my buddy sitting with Reddam in the owner's box at the BC with Johannesburg.:headbanger:

I would love to hear it sometime jocko.... :) I miss OKC brother. I haven't lived there in nearly 20 years.

f2tornado 03-11-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2289207)
Um, Hillary could not be beaten also. Stats are something to be used but eventually the Storm Cat curse will be stopped. Look at the Cubs!!!!

I don't disagree. I merely pointed out two statistics that make this horse a poor choice for current favoritism. This is not a silly statement as your other post stated. If you bet on the Cubs for 100 years in a row or Storm Cat sons in the Derby every year then you lost a lot of money. Storm Cats are 0-51 yet comprise 13% of the starters. By random chance alone, they should have won several already. Next, does he get Smith for the Derby or does Smith stick with McKinzie. That unknown is a minor ding. He has ZERO points. He has one shot to make the gate. If he gets sick or tweaks a muscle he's toast. He has not raced longer than a mile. Will his speed hold an extra panel and eventually two? A lot of bad history and unknowns. Yes, he looked real sharp today against a short field but I have seen so many horses run 8F and 8.5F burners only to fizzle in the Derby. What makes this one any different?

One thing I do like is he from female family 1. This family has been the best performing in the Derby in recent decades. I'd like to think dosage is still worth something and he checks in at a respectable 3.00.

cj 03-11-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2289211)
One day I may tell you the story of my buddy sitting with Reddam in the owner's box at the BC with Johannesburg.:headbanger:

Only if I can tag along! :)

jocko699 03-11-2018 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2289229)
Only if I can tag along! :)

Negative nightrider, the pattern is full:headbanger::headbanger::headbanger:

cj 03-11-2018 10:57 PM

Justify will get a TimeformUS Speed Figure of around 125 for today's win. For comparisons sake, McKinzie ran 124 yesterday and Bolt d'Oro ran a 123.

picojim 03-12-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer (Post 2289190)
Mourinho to Sunland Derby :)


anyone? anyone?

Saddened to confirm that Mourinho was critically injured while training earlier this morning @santaanitapark and was euthanized. Sympathies to the @PhoenixThoroug1 Team & Baffert barn..


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