Originally Posted by newtothegame (Post 2340337)

So you equate the US wanting other nations to pay their part equally, to the US and the right not wanting to pay squat??? Ok we all get it!!
:faint::faint:

Originally Posted by davew (Post 2340345)

It is surprising to me that SO many liberals want more for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security and world peace, yet are ALREADY NET recipients from the generosity of the American taxpayers.

But I am sure you are already paying your fair share.

Originally Posted by davew (Post 2340345)

It is surprising to me that SO many liberals want more for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security and world peace, yet are ALREADY NET recipients from the generosity of the American taxpayers.

But I am sure you are already paying your fair share.

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2340347)

It took somebody on your side of the aisle to cry about money and threaten to pull out of NATO. No surprise there.

Originally Posted by formula_2002 (Post 2340310)

That's the problem, the President of the United States of American, is the leader of the COUNTRY, not the president of a business seeking to maximize returns for investors.

"I have never seen Trump as power hungry".. you're out of focus.

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2340324)

So for almost 70 years NATO has overseen peace in Europe. No world wars in 70 years. Most sane people would consider this result and say long live NATO.

Not Republicans/conservatives in today's U.S.A. These people want the something for nothing and they want it now. So they cry like babies about the US paying too much for everything. We can't raise taxes to pay for our crumbling infrastructure. We can't pay taxes for food stamps, Medicaid, healthcare, Social Security, or world peace. Because nothing is more important than Republicans/conservatives paying less taxes!

How does one fool oneself into believing being selfish is a virtue?

Originally Posted by newtothegame (Post 2340351)

Nice deflection....
But the question still remains....
What is wrong with the US asking for ALL countries to pay their share equally? Or in your terms, their "fair share"???
I await your response......:headbanger:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2340388)

Sorry for the delay, Newt. Didn't want to miss the Meals on Wheels guy and disappoint Dave!

Obama asked the NATO members to pay more. But Obama didn't insult our allies in the process. Do we want Europe to build powerful armies again? Is that in our best interest?

Is this money so important that we can belittle NATO countries and not worry about repercussions?

Originally Posted by newtothegame (Post 2340390)

Again, you failed to answer...…
Is it wrong for the US to ask (regardless of how you think we should ask) for each country to EQUALLY pay their share????

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2340394)

I think it is a dumb thing for us to do. We are rocking the boat for a few dollars more - dollars that amount to peanuts compared to the human and $ cost of another world war to the USA.

Originally Posted by newtothegame (Post 2340398)

So everything I said, in what you called my "rant" was true/……

You expect the US to pay more.....
You think (because of your social beliefs) we need to take care of the rest of the world....

Never mind the fact that we have our own issues here....
Never mind the fact that there is a deficit issue in this country....HUGE might I add....

I would expect better from a numbers cruncher...…

Youre agenda outweighs common sense

War?? Yeah, There is EU on the brink of war right now just waiting for us to exit ...lmao

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2340401)

Somehow I knew you were gonna win this debate.

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2340412)

Due to the United States being the sole hegemon on the planet and being a firm believer in the global hegemonic stability theory...

Yes, the United States should pay more.

Sounds unfair until you realize it's a pretty small price to pay for running the largest national economy and having as backup the largest proxy economy in the world... until recently that is.

This whole thing is now beginning to backfire with nationalist and European solidarity movements picking up massive steam.