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classhandicapper 06-08-2020 07:56 PM

Bishop Vigano Open Letter to Trump (like wow!)
 
I'm not going to comment on what I think of this, but it's an amazing read with some amazing accusations about the world we live in.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/...esident-trump/

FakeNameChanged 06-08-2020 08:29 PM

I'd be more interested in reading the good Archbishop Vigano's open letter on how the Church has repeatedly covered up and denied the widespread existence of pedophile priests over the last one hundred years. Where did he post that one?

PaceAdvantage 06-08-2020 08:30 PM

The Archbishop is woke.

PaceAdvantage 06-08-2020 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FakeNameChanged (Post 2615853)
I'd be more interested in reading the good Archbishop Vigano's open letter on how the Church has repeatedly covered up and denied the widespread existence of pedophile priests over the last one hundred years. Where did he post that one?

Good point. Obviously, the Archbishop knows evil when he sees it.

classhandicapper 06-08-2020 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FakeNameChanged (Post 2615853)
I'd be more interested in reading the good Archbishop Vigano's open letter on how the Church has repeatedly covered up and denied the widespread existence of pedophile priests over the last one hundred years. Where did he post that one?

I'm pretty sure he's been vocal on everything related to church doctrine. He's not a fan of Francis at all.

Show Me the Wire 06-08-2020 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FakeNameChanged (Post 2615853)
I'd be more interested in reading the good Archbishop Vigano's open letter on how the Church has repeatedly covered up and denied the widespread existence of pedophile priests over the last one hundred years. Where did he post that one?

The good Archbishop has addressed the issue many times.

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Bishops and priests, abusing their authority, have committed horrendous crimes to the detriment of their faithful, minors, innocent victims, and young men eager to offer their lives to the Church, or by their silence have not prevented that such crimes continue to be perpetrated.

To restore the beauty of holiness to the face of the Bride of Christ, which is terribly disfigured by so many abominable crimes, and if we truly want to free the Church from the fetid swamp into which she has fallen, we must have the courage to tear down the culture of secrecy and publicly confess the truths we have kept hidden. We must tear down the conspiracy of silence with which bishops and priests have protected themselves at the expense of their faithful, a conspiracy of silence that in the eyes of the world risks making the Church look like a sect, a conspiracy of silence not so dissimilar from the one that prevails in the mafia. “Whatever you have said in the dark ... shall be proclaimed from the housetops” (Lk. 12:3).
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/...anos-testimony

A simple google search will yield more info.

Show Me the Wire 06-08-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2615856)
Good point. Obviously, the Archbishop knows evil when he sees it.

Yes, he does and he calls it out.

horses4courses 06-08-2020 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2615856)
Obviously, the Archbishop knows evil when he sees it.

Maybe when he looks in the mirror.

The guy stole $2M from his brother.

https://www.americamagazine.org/fait...on-his-brother

PaceAdvantage 06-08-2020 11:23 PM

Damn...you CAUGHT US again!

hcap 06-09-2020 05:11 AM

So how does the Archbishop deal with Pope Francis who has criticized Trump?
Religion and politics should stay apart.

Particularly when superstitions like the forces of light and the forces of evil are supposingly fighting Armageddon on capitol hill.

Ask the Archbishop on what side he thinks is Moscow Mitch?:lol:
One of the Four Turtles of the Apocalypse ?

And now that I think of it, which side is the Royal Son -in-Law on. Owning 666 fifth ave.?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

tucker6 06-09-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hcap (Post 2615981)
So how does the Archbishop deal with Pope Francis who has criticized Trump?
Religion and politics should stay apart.

Particularly when superstitions like the forces of light and the forces of evil are supposingly fighting Armageddon on capitol hill.

Ask the Archbishop on what side he thinks is Moscow Mitch?:lol:
One of the Four Turtles of the Apocalypse ?

And now that I think of it, which side is the Royal Son -in-Law on. Owning 666 fifth ave.?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Check your blood sugar level

classhandicapper 06-09-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hcap (Post 2615981)
So how does the Archbishop deal with Pope Francis

Let's put it this way. He's not a fan.

boxcar 06-09-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2615855)
The Archbishop is woke.

Partially.

horses4courses 06-09-2020 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2615944)
Damn...you CAUGHT US again!

No big deal....just another conservative crook.
This one happens to wear fancy robes.

classhandicapper 06-09-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by horses4courses (Post 2616039)
No big deal....just another conservative crook.
This one happens to wear fancy robes.

He has a lot of very powerful enemies.

He has basically been accusing the Pope, a significant part of the church to which he belongs, much of the media, and many politicians and business leaders of being forces of darkness and evil in what is overwhelmingly mostly a world of good people who are being lead into the darkness.

IMO, he's right about a lot of that, but he's also very unlikely to get favorable coverage from his enemies in the media and elsewhere as a result.

I think I'd like to her his side of the story since he's right about so much else. However, he's human. He could easily be guilty of greed and other human flaws too. That would make him somewhat hypocritical, but he could still be right about the rest.


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