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Clocker 10-17-2017 04:12 PM

Obama, Hillary, and Russian nuclear scandal
 
Oh, and throw in the FBI, Eric Holder and Bill Clinton, just to round up the usual cast of suspects.

Quote:

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.
All of this was known before Obama's Committee on Foreign Investment approved the controversial transfer of US uranium assets to Russia. Hillary and Holder were on that committee.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...administration

boxcar 10-17-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2232167)
Oh, and throw in the FBI, Eric Holder and Bill Clinton, just to round up the usual cast of suspects.

All of this was known before Obama's Committee on Foreign Investment approved the controversial transfer of US uranium assets to Russia. Hillary and Holder were on that committee.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...administration

In other words, Holder and Crew sat on the open investigation for the duration of the deal. Cute.

Clocker 10-17-2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by boxcar (Post 2232175)
In other words, Holder and Crew sat on the open investigation for the duration of the deal. Cute.

But as Obama and Comey said about Hillary's server, there was no intent to do wrong. :faint:

reckless 10-17-2017 10:59 PM

It's time for Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and indict all of these traitors:

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman Schults, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, James Clapper, John Brennan for their treasonous roles in the Uranium One scandals, and any ancillary crimes, especially pertaining to both Clintons and their Foundation.

Sessions must also end this Trump-Russia collusion hoax tomorrow, fire Mueller, and name a trust worthy Special Presecutor to investigate The Clinton Foundation and their part in the Uranium One deal with Russia.

If he doesn't, then Sessions must resign himself or be fired.

ReplayRandall 10-17-2017 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2232254)
It's time for Jeff Sessions to un-recuse himself and indict all of these traitors:

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman Schults, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, James Clapper, John Brennan for their treasonous roles in the Uranium One scandals, and any ancillary crimes, especially pertaining to both Clintons and their Foundation.

Sessions must also end this Trump-Russia collusion hoax tomorrow, fire Mueller, and name a trust worthy Special Presecutor to investigate The Clinton Foundation and their part in the Uranium One deal with Russia.

If he doesn't, then Sessions must resign himself or be fired.

No, no, Mueller must immediately drop the investigation himself, saying he could not find enough on Trump to indict, or go after the Clintons as a special counsel investigator, OR BOTH.....All the heat goes on Mueller to indict the Clintons and lowlife Comey.

fast4522 10-17-2017 11:11 PM

President Donald J. Trump delivered the message himself, "Be careful because at some point I fight back". Now most think the message was for John McCain, but it was to all who dare to defy him. I expect some will heed the warning, I also expect that an example will have to be made long before those incumbents get primaryed.

reckless 10-17-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2232256)
No, no, Mueller must immediately drop the investigation himself, saying he could not find enough on Trump to indict, or go after the Clintons as a special counsel investigator, OR BOTH.....All the heat goes on Mueller to indict the Clintons and lowlife Comey.

Randall... you need to know a few things... Mueller and Rosenstein ignored the criminality of the Uranium One deal even while the deal was under FBI investigation! They are political operatives and NOT public servants.

They need to be fired and arrested for treason.

ReplayRandall 10-17-2017 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2232259)
Randall... you need to know a few things... Mueller and Rosenstein ignored the criminality of the Uranium One deal even while the deal was under FBI investigation! They are political operatives and NOT public servants.

They need to be fired and arrested for treason.

Nah...I prefer the way Trump's going to give Mueller the big squeeze before he skewers him, rotisserie style....It's the Trump way of handling business, it's nothing personal, don't you know?....:pound::rip::pound:

woodtoo 10-18-2017 09:19 AM

So Mueller is investigating himself and his boss Rosenstein. What could go wrong.:pound:

Clocker 10-18-2017 11:08 AM

In the original investigation, the information about the Russian deals came from a US businessman who was working as an FBI informant.

When the man wanted to talk to Congress about further corruption, he was threatened with prosecution and prison by the Obama Justice Dept.

Quote:

An American businessman who worked for years undercover as an FBI confidential witness was blocked by the Obama Justice Department from telling Congress about conversations and transactions he witnessed related to the Russian nuclear industry's efforts to win favor with Bill and Hillary Clinton and influence Obama administration decisions, his lawyer tells The Hill.

“All of the information about this corruption has not come out,” she said in an interview Tuesday. “And so my client, the same part of my client that made him go into the FBI in the first place, says, 'This is wrong. What should I do about it?'”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...russia-nuclear

Clocker 10-18-2017 12:15 PM

More blithering incompetence from our government. :rolleyes:

Rosenstein and Mueller, along with Hillary and Eric Holder, were all on the CFIUS committee that approved the sale of 20% of US uranium reserves to Russia despite knowing Russia had bribed the Clintons for the illicit sale.

And worse:

Quote:

On Wednesday Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) asked Attorney General Sessions if Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will be allowed to investigate himself regarding new information on the Hillary Clinton Uranium One scandal.

Attorney General Sessions said it was up to him (Rosenstein).
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...igation-video/

boxcar 10-18-2017 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2232256)
No, no, Mueller must immediately drop the investigation himself, saying he could not find enough on Trump to indict, or go after the Clintons as a special counsel investigator, OR BOTH.....All the heat goes on Mueller to indict the Clintons and lowlife Comey.

One of two things would happen with Mueller: He would either resign first, or if not wind up in a morgue.

davew 10-18-2017 06:48 PM

Sessions says some people already went to jail on this issue - what to visit?

Explosive new Russia Collusion & Bribery Evidence Covered Up by FBI/DOJ Related to Uranium One


mostpost 10-18-2017 09:30 PM

Never in my life have I encountered such a concentration of ignorant and ill informed people such as I have here.

Hillary Clinton did not approve the sale of uranium to Russia. She sat on a committee which did not approve it either. That committee neither had the power to approve nor to veto. It merely made recommendations. The President and only the President than had the power to make the final decision.

Here are the members of the committee as listed on the Treasury Department website:
Department of the Treasury (Chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of US Trade Representative
Office of Science and Technology Policy

In addition there are five governmental bodies who act as observers and participate as appropriate.

It is important to note that Hillary Clinton did not personally participate in discussions of this matter. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee*matters.

It is also false that Russia controls 20% of our Uranium stockpile. It controls the company that owns 20%-if that is an accurate number. But even that company does not control the Uranium. It can not ship it out of the country. And it must follow strict guidelines and regulations in handling the Uranium.

From the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.


Now to today's nonsense as posted by Clocker.
Update
On 17 October 2017, The Hill reported obtaining evidence that Vadim Mikerin, a Russian official who oversaw the American operations of the Russian nuclear agency Rosatom, was being investigated for corruption by multiple U.S. agencies while the Uranium One deal was up for approval*— information that apparently was not shared with U.S. officials involved in approving the transaction. The Hill also reported receiving documents and eyewitness testimony “indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow,” although no specifics about who those Russian nuclear officials were or how the money was allegedly routed to the Clinton Foundation were given. In any case, none of these revelations prove that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton participated in a quid pro quo agreement to accept payment for approval of the Uranium One deal.

That last paragraph is from our friends at Snopes (citation to follow.)
The Hill story claims that multiple US agencies were investigating Vladim Mikerin for corruption. But it never says which agencies they were. It claims the investigations began before 2010 and continued until 2014. But it never says what happened after that. Apparently there was insufficient evidence to bring charges.

If there was sufficient evidence, then why doesn't the Trump administration pursue this?

Why was this information being gathered by these anonymous agencies not shared with the officials making the recommendations in the Uranium One matter? Because it should not have been. These were unfounded allegations. Regardless of whether they might turn out to be true, they were not proven at the time.

There is also the matter that going public with an investigation could compromise that investigation. I know that I hear law enforcement agencies say all the time that they will not comment on an ongoing investigation.

So we have documents that the Hill claims to have but has not produced. We have statements by persons that the Hill will not identify. We have nothing.

AS promised

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clint...m-russia-deal/

JustRalph 10-18-2017 09:38 PM

I can almost hear the tap dancing


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