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jocko699 01-01-2018 07:05 PM

Ax Man
 
Baffert firster looked awesome today winning by 9.5 lengths. I watched his workout on December 27th when he worked with McKinzie. He would side by side but the gallop out by McKinzie was impressive.

Spalding No! 01-02-2018 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2256291)
Baffert firster looked awesome today winning by 9.5 lengths. I watched his workout on December 27th when he worked with McKinzie. He would side by side but the gallop out by McKinzie was impressive.

Kind of an odd maiden race with the disparate restrictions.

At its extreme, such a race could prove lopsided when 7-figure caliber bluebloods run against horses priced at less than $100K.

Sure enough, the homebred 1/2 brother to a champion and BC winner romped home easily. Practically a training race or well orchestrated public workout.

Fager Fan 01-02-2018 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spalding No! (Post 2256365)
Kind of an odd maiden race with the disparate restrictions.

At its extreme, such a race could prove lopsided when 7-figure caliber bluebloods run against horses priced at less than $100K.

Sure enough, the homebred 1/2 brother to a champion and BC winner romped home easily. Practically a training race or well orchestrated public workout.

Who is its half-brother?

Spalding No! 01-02-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2256377)
Who is its half-brother?

Ax Man is a half to Indian Blessing (2 Eclipses, 1 BC race, nearly $3 million) among other talented if fragile Baffert-trained runners.

cj 01-02-2018 10:22 AM

Only fitting that Baffert would win the first race that was supposed to help the little guys.

ultracapper 01-02-2018 10:36 AM

At least it wasn't Pegram or Kaleem Shah. I'm sure Earnhardt ain't a "little guy" to the rest of us, but he's at best number 4 or 5 in the Baffert barn.

Still a pretty good neighborhood.

outofthebox 01-02-2018 12:15 PM

See that Baffert has now picked up some Godolphin runners. 3yo filly Enboldened making her debut thursday 2nd race. Never going to stop for Baffert. As for Axman, that was some debut....

Spalding No! 01-02-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2256412)
Only fitting that Baffert would win the first race that was supposed to help the little guys.

Retooling the 3yo maiden ranks to produce more lopsided victories is consistent with the illogical graded stakes schedule at Santa Anita that often showcases but a single prospect (not even an established horse) in a 4 or 5 horse field.

Last year at this meet it was so ludicrous that the maiden special weights proved stronger than the graded stakes, as evidenced by Irap, who could place in multiple graded stakes, but failed to hit the board in his maiden special weight starts.

Next weekends Sham Stakes promises to be more of the same.

GMB@BP 01-02-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2256412)
Only fitting that Baffert would win the first race that was supposed to help the little guys.

holy cow thats funny...and quite intentional I would imagine

cj 01-02-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2256565)
holy cow thats funny...and quite intentional I would imagine

I was wondering the same thing.

VigorsTheGrey 01-02-2018 06:04 PM

Bob tends to hold these cards close...there was no indication other than a $2500 stallion fee and really good works to go off of here...Usually, there is more of a higher price sire or high sale price associated with these talented firsters.

Since I didn't see those, I sided with Shanghai Billy who looked really good on the track, and under performed in my opinion (I boxed the 2 horses in vertical exotics)...sometimes I think that this is what barns tend to do...they know that they are not going to run down Ax Man today, so they get a fast work in, throw the placing, and hide form for next time...you have to really get into the barns to know what's hiding there...not easy to do.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/insta...e=inc&print=on

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...t-sa-on-1-1-18

cj 01-02-2018 06:11 PM

It was impressive in any case. I gave him a 117 TimeformUS Speed Figure, Beyer looks to be 97 or 98.

Fager Fan 01-02-2018 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalding No! (Post 2256407)
Ax Man is a half to Indian Blessing (2 Eclipses, 1 BC race, nearly $3 million) among other talented if fragile Baffert-trained runners.

That's shocking. How does Baffert get these owners of good mares to go to stallions he has an interest in? No way would I send a mare of that caliber to a $2,500 California stallion.

VigorsTheGrey 01-02-2018 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2256585)
It was impressive in any case. I gave him a 117 TimeformUS Speed Figure, Beyer looks to be 97 or 98.

Reminded me a little of Arrogate's break out race...Horse has interesting connections too... Owners, Patti and Hal Earnhardt III.

http://www.losalamitos.com/ProfilePage.aspx?ID=159

http://www.hillndalefarms.com/misremembered

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.p...&pedloggedin=0

Derby Prospect...?

VigorsTheGrey 01-02-2018 07:05 PM

Misremembered is listed as a Sire at Hill 'n Dale in Kentucky...

http://www.hillndalefarms.com/misrem...ormation.shtml

Regarding Race 6, Jan 1 SA: (This Race is Restricted to Homebreds and Horses Sold at Public Auction for $100,000 or Less).

Dam Shameful must be a California based Broodmare...How does one research the progeny records of Broodmares and where they are currently standing...?


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