dilanesp |
06-08-2018 03:24 AM |
Bolt D'Oro gets 114 in Met- whatever happened to giving 3 year olds a re weight break
I remember back in the day when even good 3 year olds would get 110 or so in this race and would receive 15 or 16 pounds from the favorites.
Not any more. Bolt D'Oro- who is no Holy Bull, Gulch, or Arts and Letters- gets 114, just 8 less than the topweight and 3 or 4 less than most of the older horses in the field.
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biggestal99 |
06-08-2018 07:34 AM |
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
(Post 2326557)
I remember back in the day when even good 3 year olds would get 110 or so in this race and would receive 15 or 16 pounds from the favorites.
Not any more. Bolt D'Oro- who is no Holy Bull, Gulch, or Arts and Letters- gets 114, just 8 less than the topweight and 3 or 4 less than most of the older horses in the field.
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Top jocks can't make 110.
Allan
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dilanesp |
06-08-2018 11:05 AM |
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
(Post 2326571)
Top jocks can't make 110.
Allan
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OK, but they could still topweight at 126 or higher and get the spread that way.
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LemonSoupKid |
06-08-2018 11:25 AM |
Even giving him the 8 pounds (and only to Biscuits) does anyone think he can win? That is, is he truly anywhere near a 4-1 (20%) shot? I don't think so. Is that why Ruis is trying this, though?
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dilanesp |
06-08-2018 11:52 AM |
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Originally Posted by LemonSoupKid
(Post 2326664)
Even giving him the 8 pounds (and only to Biscuits) does anyone think he can win? That is, is he truly anywhere near a 4-1 (20%) shot? I don't think so. Is that why Ruis is trying this, though?
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I think Ruis is crazy. He should be 15 to 1 against this field and receiving this little weight.
I like Bolt, but he has never looked at horses comparable to the New York handicap division, unless you count Justify, and Bolt never got close to Justify.
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Valuist |
06-08-2018 01:51 PM |
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
(Post 2326670)
I think Ruis is crazy. He should be 15 to 1 against this field and receiving this little weight.
I like Bolt, but he has never looked at horses comparable to the New York handicap division, unless you count Justify, and Bolt never got close to Justify.
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He actually DID get pretty close to Justify, who is only going for a Triple Crown tomorrow. Justify had everything his own way in that race, drifted out a bit entering the stretch and forced Bolt to duck toward the inside. It was an impressive race. He threw in the towel in the Derby at 10 furlongs and a sea of slop. Easily excusable.
The Chad Brown horse who won the Alysheba isn't in the Met; Army Mule isn't in the Met. There's nobody in this race that should intimidate Bolt. Mind Your Biscuits is a nice horse, but probably better suited to 7f. Bee Jersey? We'll see. It's one thing to win a field at Lone Star and another to win the Met Mile.
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GMB@BP |
06-08-2018 02:10 PM |
If he had a different trainer I would be more favorable to his chances....
I dont think this is the greatest Met Mile field.
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Originally Posted by GMB@BP
(Post 2326720)
If he had a different trainer I would be more favorable to his chances....
I dont think this is the greatest Met Mile field.
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My thoughts exactly, along with the less than ideal post position.
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burnsy |
06-08-2018 02:43 PM |
Gee, I gotta be old. They have not made real weights in Handicaps for years now. Like this is something new? He's an interesting entry but I agree with LemonSoup ……..4-1 or less? Tough to like that.
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Today's horses and trainers are not to be mistaken for the real race horses of the 60s-70s-80s.
Surprised more don't wear diapers instead of saddles.
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jocko699 |
06-08-2018 03:10 PM |
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Originally Posted by Tom
(Post 2326747)
Today's horses and trainers are not to be mistaken for the real race horses of the 60s-70s-80s.
Surprised more don't wear diapers instead of saddles.
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Tom,
Don't you think it "Depends" on the person?
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Bolt d'Oro would get 11 pounds in a weight for age race but only gets eight for a handicap? The "highweight" is 122? Just scratch the handicap part of the Met Mile and be done with it already.
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burnsy |
06-08-2018 03:34 PM |
Exactly CJ
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The Metropolitan Undercard Stakes
The Met Lightweight
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jay68802 |
06-09-2018 03:13 AM |
IMO, Bolt is a legit contender here, would also not hesitate to play Ransom The Moon here, also. If they let the 10 out on his own, both are in trouble. But the 10 is going to have to deal with the horse directly to his inside first. If that does not happen, then the 10 could be all alone up front.
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