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biggestal99 11-15-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
Of coarse if an owner was really smart, he would not be an owner. Owning race horses will turn a large fortune into small fortune faster than almost anything else.

Everyone knows that owning horses is a negative expectation game, doesn't stop people from being owners

Its the same with race horse betting, the vast majority will lose, a tiny minority will win

Same with the onwers game.

Allan

Robert Goren 11-15-2014 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=lamboguy]
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
how do you know that owner's have to lose money in this game?

I paid attention in arithmetic class. :)

Canarsie 11-15-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by onefast99
That would be a great bet you would get the odds on the entire field early on and eventually a long shot may just get in!

You can do it now the market is very small. At one time you needed an invite to participate not sure of anything now. Once again someone on here was an ACE on the subject I have no idea if he still reads or posts here.

Here are some links I like all the members on here to have equal footing on information I talk about. Being secretive and trying to show off your knowledge due to someone elses article or information is an act of "insecurity".

Iowa Electronic Markets

https://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/
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2014 Congressional Election Markets

https://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/markets/congress14.html
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Frequently Asked Questions

https://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/faq.html
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Earn Money Gambling on the 2014 Midterm Elections — Legally

http://www.thepennyhoarder.com/earn-...ions-legally/#.
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Canarsie 11-15-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99
Betfair NJ (or whatever you want to call it) runs NJ's monopolistic account wagering platform and it looks (finally) that exchange wagering will soon here in Jersey, co-mingling Jersey's residents bets with others.

and yes I think Silver is wrong. PASPA will NEVER be repealed under the present political environment. things would have to change drastically in the US and I just don't see that happening but then again I bet against Bayern
in the classic with toast of New York in the classic. so I could be wrong.

Allan


Are you denying that you didn't make up the name Betfair NJ? You also stated commingling would be with the U.K. isn't that accurate? You made these predictions over three years ago just in case someone claims to have "selective" amnesia.

Just think it's now almost 3 1/2 years since that statement and you haven't been right on EW or SW once.

I wish there was a platform where I could wager on some of your "outlandish" proposals even though it would be extremely hard to find one person taking your side.


Maybe the NBA should have elected you commissioner instead of Silver. Surely you have all the answers to every problem that comes across his desk in a quick manner. Just think how much in attorneys fees you will save them till counter suits happen and they would go bankrupt due to ineptitude and negligence.

onefast99 11-15-2014 11:46 AM

[QUOTE=Robert Goren]
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
I paid attention in arithmetic class. :)

Was that the old math or new math? Horse ownership isn't for everyone many lose small fortunes but many have deep pockets and like anything else the thrill of victory outweighs the agony of defeat!

biggestal99 11-15-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Canarsie
Are you denying that you didn't make up the name Betfair NJ? You also stated commingling would be with the U.K. isn't that accurate? You made these predictions over three years ago just in case someone claims to have "selective" amnesia.

Just think it's now almost 3 1/2 years since that statement and you haven't been right on EW or SW once.

I wish there was a platform where I could wager on some of your "outlandish" proposals even though it would be extremely hard to find one person taking your side.


Maybe the NBA should have elected you commissioner instead of Silver. Surely you have all the answers to every problem that comes across his desk in a quick manner. Just think how much in attorneys fees you will save them till counter suits happen and they would go bankrupt due to ineptitude and negligence.


Does it really matter the name? Betfair NJ, betfair corporate, tvg, or whatever the honchos want to call it.

They control account wagering and soon to be the exchange wagering provider in jersey and also have an online casino also in jersey

Has it taken longer than it should, of course. But nothing is simple. Jeez. Why the acrimony?

Allan

biggestal99 11-15-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Canarsie
Are you denying that you didn't make up the name Betfair NJ? You also stated commingling would be with the U.K. isn't that accurate? You made these predictions over three years ago just in case someone claims to have "selective" amnesia.

Just think it's now almost 3 1/2 years since that statement and you haven't been right on EW or SW once.

.

They will be co-mingling jersey's exchange with other exchanges if the rules pass as written.

Allan

biggestal99 11-19-2014 02:11 PM

Judge shipp wants this out of his court asap, consolidated the pi and merits and will issue a summary judgement onthe issue at hand per my pacer account.

Allan

Canarsie 11-20-2014 12:01 PM

I am going to post some links here since someone thinks it's so secretive to keep information from others. No matter what side a person stands on he or she should be able to read an article someone references but REFUSES to list the link.

Signing up for pacer takes around ten minutes
Want a pacer account start here:
https://www.pacer.gov/

Meadowlands Matters lots of info posted today and yesterday.
http://blog.northjersey.com/meadowlandsmatters/

Judge to take arguments on New Jersey sports betting
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...e2c646cec.html

What's going to happen Thursday in NJ sports betting case?
http://www.covers.com/articles/artic...?theArt=394948

Christie facing long odds in sports betting case
http://www.app.com/story/news/local/...ting/19228319/

N.J. sports betting: 5 things to know heading into today's hearing
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...s_hearing.html

Canarsie 11-20-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99
They will be co-mingling jersey's exchange with other exchanges if the rules pass as written.

Allan

You took a firm stand that there will be commingling with the UK isn't that correct? The bill always said other exchanges which was intended for California or any other state that wanted to implement it.

In the past three and a half years I haven't seen one article or reference (besides you) that exchange wagering pools will be shared across the atlantic. Care to provide one?

Oh and where is this company you called Betfair NJ? Another thing you were wrong on.

biggestal99 11-20-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Canarsie
You took a firm stand that there will be commingling with the UK isn't that correct? The bill always said other exchanges which was intended for California or any other state that wanted to implement it.

In the past three and a half years I haven't seen one article or reference (besides you) that exchange wagering pools will be shared across the atlantic. Care to provide one?

Oh and where is this company you called Betfair NJ? Another thing you were wrong on.

Good lord, you sure are cantankeous, not sure why, no reason for that kind of behaviour on pa.

First of all betfair nj controls

1. Account wagering in newjersey under the Tvg moniker
2. An on-line casino in jersey under betfaircasino monliker
3. The rights to offerexchange wagering in jersey

Not sure why the name is so important toyou but cie le vie

Now onto your question.

Its right there in the proposed rules for the jersey exchange.

I ask you toread the proposed rules in full and then get back to me

Allan

cj 11-20-2014 03:35 PM

Meanwhile, there was a big hearing in NJ today. A decision is expected by COB tomorrow. I think the odds of NJ getting sports betting are basically what I said when this first came about, slim to none.

biggestal99 11-20-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cj
Meanwhile, there was a big hearing in NJ today. A decision is expected by COB tomorrow. I think the odds of NJ getting sports betting are basically what I said when this first came about, slim to none.

In shipp's court no chance, but the appeals court is likely to side with nj, after all they gave jersey the way to circumvent paspa.

Allan

cj 11-20-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99
In shipp's court no chance, but the appeals court is likely to side with nj, after all they gave jersey the way to circumvent paspa.

Allan

My guess is the same chance on appeal, little, but I've been wrong before.

horses4courses 11-20-2014 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cj
My guess is the same chance on appeal, little, but I've been wrong before.

You're guess is correct.
The deck is always stacked against sports betting - and it's wrong.


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