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UnionRags 03-21-2018 12:47 PM

Rainbow six thread
 
Would be cool to have a thread dedicated to this wager. Not as a place to debate whether it’s a scam or not, but one dedicated to the days card and so forth.

vince 03-25-2018 08:08 PM

If no one hits until the final day is 4/1 the mandatory payout day for Gulfstream?

jay68802 03-25-2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vince (Post 2294825)
If no one hits until the final day is 4/1 the mandatory payout day for Gulfstream?

Yes. Should be bigger that last time.

TiffaniO 03-25-2018 09:00 PM

They are paying it out 3/31 because Sunday is Easter

jay68802 03-25-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TiffaniO (Post 2294853)
They are paying it out 3/31 because Sunday is Easter

TY

Parkview_Pirate 03-26-2018 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TiffaniO (Post 2294853)
They are paying it out 3/31 because Sunday is Easter

Call me cynical, but I doubt the execs at GP are too concerned with Easter. After all, they will be having live racing on Sunday, the final day of their "championship meet". It wasn't that long ago that the Fair Grounds and one cheap harness track (Liberty?) were the only tracks running on Easter.

Saturday the 31st, on the other hand, is Florida Derby Day, and the crowd, handle and excitement of a $25M Rainbow Six will be mind boggling, assuming the Rainbow Six doesn't get hit in the two live racing days (Thursday and Friday) this week. Should be a nice pad to offset much of the takeout, even with chalky results.

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....:pout:

therussmeister 03-27-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate (Post 2294908)
Call me cynical, but I doubt the execs at GP are too concerned with Easter. After all, they will be having live racing on Sunday, the final day of their "championship meet". It wasn't that long ago that the Fair Grounds and one cheap harness track (Liberty?) were the only tracks running on Easter.

Saturday the 31st, on the other hand, is Florida Derby Day, and the crowd, handle and excitement of a $25M Rainbow Six will be mind boggling, assuming the Rainbow Six doesn't get hit in the two live racing days (Thursday and Friday) this week. Should be a nice pad to offset much of the takeout, even with chalky results.

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....:pout:

They pay out Saturday because by law New York is shut out on Easter. No horse racing, and no betting, but the casinos are still allowed to stay open.

TiffaniO 03-27-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate (Post 2294908)
Call me cynical, but I doubt the execs at GP are too concerned with Easter. After all, they will be having live racing on Sunday, the final day of their "championship meet". It wasn't that long ago that the Fair Grounds and one cheap harness track (Liberty?) were the only tracks running on Easter.

Saturday the 31st, on the other hand, is Florida Derby Day, and the crowd, handle and excitement of a $25M Rainbow Six will be mind boggling, assuming the Rainbow Six doesn't get hit in the two live racing days (Thursday and Friday) this week. Should be a nice pad to offset much of the takeout, even with chalky results.

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....:pout:



Actually that is the reason they did it Saturday, they’d prefer to pay out the day after the Florida derby to have two big handles. Just as they did Pegasus weekend.

So yes maybe they don’t give a poop it’s Easter but they give a poop that handle would be diminished by the holiday.

jay68802 03-27-2018 06:09 PM

I only give a poop because if it carries, it will be a large pool.

TiffaniO 03-27-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jay68802 (Post 2295470)
I only give a poop because if it carries, it will be a large pool.

The carryover pool on Sunday will be $0 since Saturday is the mandatory payout.

Buckeye 03-27-2018 06:34 PM

Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....

Not me, I can assure you.

The way I look at it, there are 4 more shots at it.

I used to think the Rainbow Six was a sucker bet, but no more. I like it.

Try and win millions in the lottery when there are sixty nine horses running in each leg.

jay68802 03-28-2018 11:43 PM

Initial thoughts on races 9-11 on Saturday. Planning on the Carryover to go Mandatory.

First 3 races look tough. Going to spend some money.

Race 9. MSW looks to have 2 solid contenders, the :7: Art Collection made a bid but flatted late, and look at the last work. Trainer change is going to leave some scratching their head and might add to the price. Also looking at the :8: Mr. Discretionary, have some concerns here, most notably 7 tries so far and is still a maiden. I like the claim and the move back to Non-claiming. Also using the :2::3::4::10::11:.

Race #10: Optional Claiming with out one entered for a tag. Think the easy one to spot here is the :8: Outplay. Pletcher and Johnny V are going to attract a lot of attention, and you have to use him but, IMO is a very vulnerable favorite. The 2 horses I like for the upset are the :2: Richard The Great and the :3: Weekend Hideaway. Others to consider are the :5::7::10:.

Race 11: HoneyFox G-3 has a solid field of ten, and what I refer to as a soft single. :6: Grizzel is going to be a price and will be playing strongly. Last two races look substandard but the worst one was on synthetic. Last race had no pace help, but finished strongly. Other one to use is the :10: On leave. Will be using a few others also.

Crookid 03-30-2018 04:17 AM

My race ratings for each horse (0-100) and picks:

Race 9

1. 64

2. 63.7

:3: 74.9

4. 58.8

5. 58.3

6. 64.7

:7: 71.2

:8: 73.5

9. 54.5

10. 63.1

:11: 64.3



Race 10

1. 74.8

2. 68

:3: 77.5

4. 68.7

5. 67.9

6. 72.9

7. 76.4

:8: 78.1

:9: 85.5

10. 72.1

11. 62.6



Race 11

1. 76.9

:2: 80.9

:3: 82.6

4. 80.7

5. 69.5

6. 72.8

7. 75.8

8. 77

9. 67

:10: 87.4



Race 12

1. 71.3

:2: 82.7

:3: 84.1

4. 79.3

:5: 76.3

6. 71.7

7. 75.5

8. 75.3

:9: 80.3

10. 64.7

:11: 85.1

12. 75.6

13. 73.3




Race 13

1. 79.7

2. 83.8

:3: 86.8

4. 80.4

5. 80.4

6. 73.2

:7: 88.4

:8: 87.6

9. 77.1 9. 83.3



Race 14

:1: 92.2

2. 60.4

3. 71

:4: 85.2

5. 75.7

:6: 89.8

7. 80

:8: 92.4

Parkview_Pirate 03-30-2018 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by therussmeister (Post 2295450)
They pay out Saturday because by law New York is shut out on Easter. No horse racing, and no betting, but the casinos are still allowed to stay open.

Ah, that makes sense. At first I thought russmeister was confused about geography since GP is in the Sunshine State, but I see the logic of allowing the fans from NY the chance to get their money back they've put into the pot so far....

Parkview_Pirate 03-30-2018 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye (Post 2295475)
Unfortunately, with the Dubai World Cup earlier in the day, chances are I'll be tapped out by mid-card at Gulfstream....

Not me, I can assure you.

The way I look at it, there are 4 more shots at it.

I used to think the Rainbow Six was a sucker bet, but no more. I like it.

Try and win millions in the lottery when there are sixty nine horses running in each leg.

Down to the Good Friday card now, and with a couple of six horse fields, it's 1-35 that the Rainbow Six carries over into Saturday.

It's sort of a mixed bag when it comes to being a sucker bet. Yes, the payouts are reduced when multiple tickets hit due to the portion of the pool carried over, but - the 20 cent price helps the little fish out (like me), and there seems to be some evidence "the spread" the bigger players use actually bumps up the payouts when chalk rolls all day. I've hit it once this year, and am a couple of hundred in the black on the wager. It helps me weed out some pick 3s or a key bet though, and that's what I like about it.

I'll try to remember to post my selections for it on Saturday, regardless of whether I'm tapped or not.:)


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