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cj 12-02-2020 02:50 PM

Crazy happenings in racing today (12-2)
 
Item 1:

First race at Delta, originally declared a dead heat by the placing judges, overruled by the stewards (rightly so in my opinion). Dead heat was on the board for at least a few minutes.

Item 2:

Gulfstream is running races at the listed post time!

BarchCapper 12-02-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2680405)
Item 1:


Item 2:

Gulfstream is running races at the listed post time!

THIS is an item "TWO" in a crazy happenings post???? I find this miraculous enough that it deserves its own thread! :)

jameegray1 12-02-2020 03:03 PM

Can add to this with Parx R4 today where the eventual winner was clear at head of the stretch only to almost stop running, then get going again and get back in front to still win!

castaway01 12-02-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jameegray1 (Post 2680417)
Can add to this with Parx R4 today where the eventual winner was clear at head of the stretch only to almost stop running, then get going again and get back in front to still win!

Happened before at Parx....not sure if that was more remarkable than the next race today (the 5th), which was 70-1 over 90-1.


cj 12-02-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BarchCapper (Post 2680414)
THIS is an item "TWO" in a crazy happenings post???? I find this miraculous enough that it deserves its own thread! :)

I thought about that. At some point in history Gulfstream has run at the posted time, but I don't think I've ever seen the stewards overrule the placing judges.

PaceAdvantage 12-02-2020 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2680405)
Item 2:

Gulfstream is running races at the listed post time!


Andy Asaro 12-02-2020 04:18 PM

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Waquoit 12-02-2020 07:28 PM

The sad part is that the "dreaded drag" was adopted by other tracks. Let's hope the switch is adopted as well.

westernmassbob 12-02-2020 08:45 PM

The ironic or not so ironic thing is that the races at Gulfstream still had the same amount of time in between each race so it didn’t really matter what the post time said. Do not a lot of people understand this? The drag was in every race.....or was.

porchy44 12-02-2020 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2680405)
Item 1:

First race at Delta, originally declared a dead heat by the placing judges, overruled by the stewards (rightly so in my opinion). Dead heat was on the board for at least a few minutes.

Item 2:

Gulfstream is running races at the listed post time!


GOOD. post time = post time

therussmeister 12-03-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Waquoit (Post 2680549)
The sad part is that the "dreaded drag" was adopted by other tracks. Let's hope the switch is adopted as well.

I guess the drag will be eliminated at Laurel/Pimlico too, although I don't know if that's effective immediately.

jahura2 12-03-2020 11:59 AM

Yesterday, Was alive to a decent P4 in the 9th at Tampa. Didnt hit it but made a saver bet on the eventual winner who goes in the gate at 21-1 but crosses the finish line at 11-1. Uggghhhh. These very late odds drops, especially 10 points really get me thinking conspiracy theories.

airford1 12-03-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jahura2 (Post 2680837)
Yesterday, Was alive to a decent P4 in the 9th at Tampa. Didnt hit it but made a saver bet on the eventual winner who goes in the gate at 21-1 but crosses the finish line at 11-1. Uggghhhh. These very late odds drops, especially 10 points really get me thinking conspiracy theories.

Ya Think.

cj 12-03-2020 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by westernmassbob (Post 2680611)
The ironic or not so ironic thing is that the races at Gulfstream still had the same amount of time in between each race so it didn’t really matter what the post time said. Do not a lot of people understand this? The drag was in every race.....or was.

If all you play is Gulfstream it probably doesn't matter much. But if you are playing multiple tracks and trying to figure out when Gulfstream is going off it was a pain in the ass. And that is before considering if there is an extra reason to drag (Rainbow 6, Super High 5 carryover, guaranteed pool not reached, etc.) it wasn't consistent.

Also, this gave an even bigger edge to CRW teams in my opinion for a variety of reasons.

dilanesp 12-03-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by porchy44 (Post 2680697)
GOOD. post time = post time

The first few times I attended the races in New York, back when Marshall Cassidy was still calling the races, it was very common for the tote board to click and for Cassidy to announce, stridently, "it is now POST time!", as the 4th or 5th horse was loading into the gate.

Coming from California, where we routinely started the races 5 minutes late, this astounded me.


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