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LavaFAN
12-07-2012, 12:42 AM
Hello everyone, I have a question about entering a horse in a stake race. Whats the process for that. Lets say for example a 100k stake race like the la jolla at del mar what qualifications are there for that type of race. Can a horse come out of an maiden or allowance race and enter and have any shot of getting in? Thanks in advance for any time of answer i appreciate it
Overlay
12-07-2012, 12:55 AM
I would think that eligibility of the horse for the race and/or whether the horse's connections want to target the horse for it, would be a matter of how the conditions for the race are worded and whether the horse meets the minimum standards of those conditions for entry; what the associated fees are; whether the connections are willing to put up that money based on their assessment of the horse's chances of getting a piece of the purse in light of the caliber of competition it would be facing; and (assuming that there are more nominations than could be accommodated in the starting field), how the race conditions would rank the horse in order of priority or preference against the other nominees.
johnhannibalsmith
12-07-2012, 01:31 AM
In the case of the La Jolla, which is a handicap, there is a subscription fee or nomination or fee, or both. You submit the horse's name and vitals to the racing office before a specfic time a few days out. The race is then weighted by the secretary. The nomination list with weights is distributed. You then pay to enter and then pay to start. If the race overfills, highweights are preferred.
In an overnight stakes, the race is weighted like any conditioned race, with a base weight by age and then allowances in most cases based on recent wins. Generally, preference is determined by earnings for these races.
There is no minimum criteria per se - you can nominate whatever you want if you want to spend up to $3,750 in the case of the La Jolla for example. But if you are, as you suggest, a maiden or recent maiden winner, and the race overfills - obviously with either minimal earnings or presumably an extremely low weight relative to the rest of the field unless they too are all shooting for the moon, your chances at getting in are severely compromised.
LavaFAN
12-07-2012, 02:11 AM
I would think that eligibility of the horse for the race and/or whether the horse's connections want to target the horse for it, would be a matter of how the conditions for the race are worded and whether the horse meets the minimum standards of those conditions for entry; what the associated fees are; whether the connections are willing to put up that money based on their assessment of the horse's chances of getting a piece of the purse in light of the caliber of competition it would be facing; and (assuming that there are more nominations than could be accommodated in the starting field), how the race conditions would rank the horse in order of priority or preference against the other nominees.
Thank you that makes sense. Much appreciated information
LavaFAN
12-07-2012, 02:13 AM
In the case of the La Jolla, which is a handicap, there is a subscription fee or nomination or fee, or both. You submit the horse's name and vitals to the racing office before a specfic time a few days out. The race is then weighted by the secretary. The nomination list with weights is distributed. You then pay to enter and then pay to start. If the race overfills, highweights are preferred.
In an overnight stakes, the race is weighted like any conditioned race, with a base weight by age and then allowances in most cases based on recent wins. Generally, preference is determined by earnings for these races.
There is no minimum criteria per se - you can nominate whatever you want if you want to spend up to $3,750 in the case of the La Jolla for example. But if you are, as you suggest, a maiden or recent maiden winner, and the race overfills - obviously with either minimal earnings or presumably an extremely low weight relative to the rest of the field unless they too are all shooting for
the moon, your chances at getting in are severely compromised.
Thank you as well. All makes more sense now. Im just dreaming in my head of running in that race but hey ya never know. A mans gotta dream. Again thank you for the info.
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