Gruden

[cj]

Does he ever shut up? Listening to him, every player and coach is a future Hall of Famer. Then, he says the same things over and over and over. I don't remember him being like this a few years ago, but I find him unbearable now.

[PhantomOnTour]

Don't know why he doesn't go back to coaching - he was a very good one.
Seems like one of those film room guys who absolutely lives football, but is very boring to listen to...i imagine Sean Payton and Urban Meyer are the same way.

[horses4courses]

Does he ever shut up? Listening to him, every player and coach is a future Hall of Famer. Then, he says the same things over and over and over. I don't remember him being like this a few years ago, but I find him unbearable now.

Wish I had $20 for every time I have said that about him lately.
Hard to listen to.....

[Mailman]

cj, i was thinking the same thing about him tonight, finally i just shut it down,

[Hosshead]

He uses a lot of coaching lingo, formations etc. when going on and on.
I bet half the players couldn't follow his ramblings.

He talks like he is sitting around a table with a bunch of coaches talking in coaching terms, using coaching phrases etc.
Last night he said something (don't remember exactly what), but at the time I thought, I'll bet about 95% of the audience doesn't know what the hell that "term" means or what he's talking about, and them I realized that after a while I had just "tuned" his voice out in my head.

He talks like he is always trying to show everyone that he is a coach and you're not.

I think he's kind of a likeable guy, but needs to learn how to talk to the avg. viewer, and learn when to shut up.

[JustRalph]

Broadcasting is easier than coaching and pays well.

[OTM Al]

Does he ever shut up? Listening to him, every player and coach is a future Hall of Famer. Then, he says the same things over and over and over. I don't remember him being like this a few years ago, but I find him unbearable now.

He's working with Mike Tirico, who may be the most boring sportscaster in the business, so he does need to talk extra. That said though, he regularly get to the point every game where I think "what is this guy talking about?"

[TexasDolly]

They desperately miss "Jaws". He broke the non-stop hysteria. Trico and Gruden wear thin too fast.

[Charli125]

He's working with Mike Tirico, who may be the most boring sportscaster in the business, so he does need to talk extra. That said though, he regularly get to the point every game where I think "what is this guy talking about?"

Tirico is boring, Gruden is a rambling mess, I use the mute button. My wife was reading while I watched MNF last night and she stopped reading to ask me who that guy was that sounded like he was drunk AND high on cocaine.

Mind you, I'm a Raiders fan, so I'm far from impartial.

[thaskalos]

I like Gruden. He is likable, enthusiastic, and has great knowledge of the game. He might be trying a little too hard to be the next John Madden...but I can live with that.

You might accuse him of talking too much...but I don't see how you can call him boring. IMO...the word "boring" should be reserved for guys like Phil Simms or Ron Jaworski.

The great "professional" announcers of yesteryear are all gone.

We have gone from the Pat Summeralls to the Cris Collinsworths...:ThmbDown:

[Valuist]

I agree Gruden sells the game way too much. Remember earlier in the season, the Bears were playing the Cowboys and he used some Greek mythology reference regarding Romo and Cutler. Was way over the top.

Theismann was the same way. I wonder if ESPN is telling the color guys to go overboard on superlatives.

Words like "great" and "superstar" are overused way too much, be it in the NFL, horse racing, or any sport.

[cj]

I agree Gruden sells the game way too much. Remember earlier in the season, the Bears were playing the Cowboys and he used some Greek mythology reference regarding Romo and Cutler. Was way over the top.

Theismann was the same way. I wonder if ESPN is telling the color guys to go overboard on superlatives.

Words like "great" and "superstar" are overused way too much, be it in the NFL, horse racing, or any sport.

Remember the old days when announcers on Monday night would actually criticize a coach or a player? Now they are all the greatest to ever lace up the spikes.

[JustRalph]

Remember the old days when announcers on Monday night would actually criticize a coach or a player? Now they are all the greatest to ever lace up the spikes.

I noticed that the other night. They were talking about how great the position coaches for the Eagles were. Yet, if you read about the turmoil ec they have brought upon themselves ..........it blows your mind.

I can imagine what Cosell would be saying about a pack of overpaid losers who were fighting like school girls at the practice sessions

[Robert Fischer]

most of these guys are either boring or annoying if you focus too much on their styles.

You've got gung ho coach-speak guys..., stats guys, draft-combine-speak guys....

Al Michaels is an old pro and he took Cris Collinsworth under his wing, at least to the point that Collinsworth usually has a better feel for announcing.

At least they are all enthusiastic about football. It's not that bad.

[Valuist]

We may get our wish. Rumors about Gruden heading back to Oakland. Not sure in what role; could be as a consultant to GM Reggie McKenzie.

[Charli125]

We may get our wish. Rumors about Gruden heading back to Oakland. Not sure in what role; could be as a consultant to GM Reggie McKenzie.

I wish there was a smilie that had me shooting myself in the face.

That would be a horrible idea. He wasn't a good coach, and the only reason he won a SuperBowl was because the new coaching staff was too stupid to change their play calls and his D new exactly what play was coming.

The Raiders, while still being terrible, are making some positive strides since Al passed away, I really hope they don't bring Gruden back.

[horses4courses]

Was really looking forward to tonight's game.
Then it hit me.......Gruden.

[Robert Goren]

I still remember Dennis Miller. After him, I find it hard to criticise anybody.

[MaTH716]

I'm really looking forward to Mr. Gruden's commentary for next weeks Jets-Titans potential barn burner. :rolleyes:

Ugh........