Monday Funday Picks 12/3

[Ray2000]

Betting Win if odds > 3/1 and Key Box Exactas
(Northfield picks are more for amusement than serious money.)

Dover R7........6/2,4,5...Auf Wiedersehen-4/1
filly having trouble getting a win but is drawing action 2/1-3/1
efforts in last 2 were good tries from pp8

Meadows R6......5/4,8 ...Count Me In-5/1
improving 3 yo with a 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd.... last 4

Meadows R7......3/1,9,8 ...Wing And A Share-5/1
Bot says barn burner half. Aaron on the 1 will be way overbet.
Must excuse this filly's last start as beaten fave. 10/1 winner prior to that.

Northfield R5...9/4,2 ...Rompaway Yum Yum-6/1
Yum Yum with Kim Pluta? How can I not put 2$ in that :)

Northfield R10..6/9,7 ...Kickstand-3/1
My good money chasing bad. Bet him at MEA last week at 60/1. New trainer tonite.

Woodbine R11....10/2,4 ...Vacation Day-7/1
Got parked out last time drawing pp10 but has speed.
What will crowd do with this sharp but bad draw, Mcnair/Osullivan? 3/1?

Yonkers R9......3/1,8 ...Very Upset Richie-5/1
6yo having his best year with over $100,000 earnings, 7 wins and GB too

Good Luck All

[Zapper]

Ray good luck to you this evening with your selections & good luck also extending to driver Jimmy Pantaleano who is 2 wins shy of 6000 lifetime driving wins.

[Ray2000]

Good Luck back to ya, Zapper

The Robot kinda likes Jimmy Pantaleano tonite at the Hilltop

R6......6 Alfredsson 12/1 .....to Place
R7......4 Print It-5/1, ..........to Win

R10.....2 Arctic Escape-4/1, .to Win
R11.....5 Mc Dynamite-6/1, ...to Show

Maybe 6000 with Artic Escape? Could be....

And how about a wild long shot in Race 4 with a horse with my name. (#3) :D

[Zapper]

Actually upon further review he needs 3 more wins.

[mrroyboy]

Ray I noticed you recomenned place or show betting for some of those horses. Do you often bet place or show by them selves? See I am trying to figure out the best way for me to bet Yonkers since I pick alot of winners but don't make much money

[LAP_520]

Ray I noticed you recomenned place or show betting for some of those horses. Do you often bet place or show by them selves? See I am trying to figure out the best way for me to bet Yonkers since I pick alot of winners but don't make much money

At Yonkers, if you are able to pick Winners,which for me is rough at that Harness track, try putting together a $1 Pick 3 ticket keying on one race with one horse as the winning horse and spreading 3 to 4 deep in the other two legs (races)///// A $1 Pick 3 ticket - 1 horse by 3 horses by 4 horses would cost $12.00 Yonkers only has a couple of races with that betting option.. so that is what I would recommend.

Good Luck !

[horses4courses]

Betting Win if odds > 3/1 and Key Box Exactas
(Northfield picks are more for amusement than serious money.)

Dover R7........6/2,4,5...Auf Wiedersehen-4/1
filly having trouble getting a win but is drawing action 2/1-3/1
efforts in last 2 were good tries from pp8

Meadows R6......5/4,8 ...Count Me In-5/1
improving 3 yo with a 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd.... last 4

Meadows R7......3/1,9,8 ...Wing And A Share-5/1
Bot says barn burner half. Aaron on the 1 will be way overbet.
Must excuse this filly's last start as beaten fave. 10/1 winner prior to that.

Northfield R5...9/4,2 ...Rompaway Yum Yum-6/1
Yum Yum with Kim Pluta? How can I not put 2$ in that :)

Northfield R10..6/9,7 ...Kickstand-3/1
My good money chasing bad. Bet him at MEA last week at 60/1. New trainer tonite.

Woodbine R11....10/2,4 ...Vacation Day-7/1
Got parked out last time drawing pp10 but has speed.
What will crowd do with this sharp but bad draw, Mcnair/Osullivan? 3/1?

Yonkers R9......3/1,8 ...Very Upset Richie-5/1
6yo having his best year with over $100,000 earnings, 7 wins and GB too

Good Luck All

Played a few of the later races tonight....I'm suddenly a harness fan :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[Ray2000]

Auf Wiedersehen............Placed at 3/1 Exacta $9.00...boo...scr 2
Count Me In..................Winner $7.60.................didn't use the 1
Wing And A Share...........4th at 7/2
Rompaway Yum Yum.......Showed at 14/1 Show paid $7.40 Turns out Kim is a 180 lb guy :p
Kickstand......................Winner $4.40 Exacta $22.80 Trifecta $103.20
Vacation Day.................Placed...provided cover for the 26/1 shot that beat him
Very Upset Richie............OTB at 2/1


roy

I posted those "Place" and "Show" picks just for Pantaleano possibles. I seldom bet in those pools.
But I did go Win/Show on that Yum Yum fun bet.


LAP_520, welcome

Pick 3 is a good way to go for Win bettors.

mel and I, have had several posts on parlays vs pic bets and the Take-out being applied only once in Pic3 seems to have the advantage. I like tracks that offer a rolling pic3, I wonder if any track has tried "Any 3-Pick3" or Any "Four-Pick Four"?
I think that wager would be even more popular than lowering the minimum ticket price to 20¢


horses4courses, welcome to "The Dark Side" :)

[melman]

Just as an FYI Ray the takeout rate on the pic3 at Northfield is 14 percent. Many of the tracks have a 15 take on the pic4 bet. The lower the take the better I like it. :) Like your idea of "any pic3 or any pic4". Maybe the outdated tote systems of the racing industry will not permit it. M1 this next meet wil go with two pic4"s. The more the merrier at 15 percent take. :)

[Ray2000]

You're probably right about the "Horse and Buggy" tote system, (Pun intended) and there will always be some punter who'll use the last race for his final leg, so the payoff won't come until the party's over. But... would that keep the live crowd around longer? and betting more?

Strategy would be interesting. Would you go for 3 (or 4) easy handicapable races like most players or throw in a tough one and go for the pot....hmmm?

[melman]

Ray as you posted before Pompano is now starting a pic4 with a 10 takeout rate. That alone will cause me to take a long look at it. My wish list would be your idea on "any pic3 or pic4" but rolling pic3's are nice. Wish more tracks had them. It's a nice feature. Yesterday at Monticello a track which has the rolling pic3s they had a nice 481 pic that suited me fine. :) The first leg had a nice 16 dollor horse that I liked. So did "Catskill Steve". As much as I like the reduced take on these bets I don't play many of them. It's the expanded options of looking for a good set up that I like. If you can get a price in leg 1 of any pic bet it goes a long way to getting a nice final payout on that bet. Seems a lot of the public likes to be "live" after leg one.

Also speaking of Jimmy Pants going for 6000 career wins I think Brett Miller is in the same quest. Either very very close or he just got it. Roger the voice as been doing a countdown at the Meadows for a while now. That is quite a milestone.

[mrroyboy]

At Yonkers, if you are able to pick Winners,which for me is rough at that Harness track, try putting together a $1 Pick 3 ticket keying on one race with one horse as the winning horse and spreading 3 to 4 deep in the other two legs (races)///// A $1 Pick 3 ticket - 1 horse by 3 horses by 4 horses would cost $12.00 Yonkers only has a couple of races with that betting option.. so that is what I would recommend.

Good Luck !


Thank you Lap. Good advice. It is rough to pick winners at Yonkers at good odds. Picking favorites seems easy for me. Not profitable but easy.