And so it begins.......looting

[JustRalph]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/looters-target-coney-island-sandy-article-1.1195080

Lots of similar stories coming out of Brooklyn and other places

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1195097.1351705879!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-looting2-1031.jpg

[newtothegame]

And here I thought this will only limited to those (........... you fill in the blank), low lifes that resided in New orleans after Katrina?????
Seems it is everywhere........
But, in all fairness Ralph, I am not saying you prersonally as I do not recall. But I remember countless people lambasting us here in the south (in general terms) as to how we didnt know how to act, etc etc.
Point is, there are those in EVERY walk of life, in every location who will take advantage of situations. I truly do hope this scum and anyone else caught gets the book thrown at them!!! To take from people in times of their greatest needs in as crime for which I rank right up there with some of the most aggregious (sp).

[bigmack]

From the article -

"Look, they've been looting our wallets for too long," said a young male who claimed he helped himself to a TV at the Rent-A-Center.
“It's about time we start taking this sh—back," the youth, who identified himself as Jesse James, told the Daily News.

"It was complete lawlessness,” said Ron Troyano, owner of Joann’s Discount Wine and Liquors on Mermaid Ave.

He said looters used tools to bust through his steel security gates around 11:30 a.m. Tuesday.

The thieves then shattered his storefront and helped themselves to thousands of dollars worth of top shelf liquor, he said.

"They pried open the gate, broke the glass and went straight for the Hennessy and Grey Goose,” he said.

They SHOULD nail places like Rent-A-Center. Gouging low income people with interest for crap._

_________________

Some folk livin' large tonight. Sippin' Hennessy, watchin' the Kardashians on a flat screen with scratches from the previous 'renter'

Gangsta's. :D

[Dahoss9698]

From the article -



They SHOULD nail places like Rent-A-Center. Gouging low income people with interest for crap._
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Some folk livin' large tonight. Sippin' Hennessy, watchin' the Kardashians on a flat screen with scratches from the previous 'renter' :ThmbUp:
:lol: :lol:

I see what you did there. VERY clever.

[Hoofhearted]

Seems it is everywhere........

Indeed it is !
You will always have such situations when there exists a distinct disadvantaged underclass -- the Poor. When a segment of a population is condemned to endemic poverty and despair without any hope of ever getting out of their poverty, then it is perhaps understandable that they will grab an opportunity to take what they can.
The police -- the paid protectors of the rich and the enforcers of Capital -- will of course try to catch them. It was ever thus, and always will be as long as there are huge discrepancies in wealth.

Just as "all profit is wages that have not been paid", it can also be argued that all small-scale theft by the Poor is a component of Class War.

[cj's dad]

Indeed it is !
You will always have such situations when there exists a distinct disadvantaged underclass -- the Poor. When a segment of a population is condemned to endemic poverty and despair without any hope of ever getting out of their poverty, then it is perhaps understandable that they will grab an opportunity to take what they can.
The police -- the paid protectors of the rich and the enforcers of Capital -- will of course try to catch them. It was ever thus, and always will be as long as there are huge discrepancies in wealth.

Just as "all profit is wages that have not been paid", it can also be argued that all small-scale theft by the Poor is a component of Class War.

Good post Joseph Stalin

[Tom]

Good post Joseph Stalin

Just as "all profit is wages that have not been paid", it can also be argued that all small-scale theft by the Poor is a component of Class War.

If it a war, do we get to shoot?

[so.cal.fan]

There is an old law in California, I think it's still in place but never enforced of course. You can shoot looters on sight. I think it was put in during the 1905 earthquake in San Francisco.

Interesting....in Japan.....there was no looting during their disaster.
Actually there is NO WORD IN THE JAPANESE LANGUAGE FOR LOOTING
It's non existent in their culture.

[Hoofhearted]

If it a war, do we get to shoot?
Shoot the thieving banksters instead.
They are stealing billions from you.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Shoot the thieving banksters instead.
They are stealing billions from you.

Who is facilitating it?

[bigmack]

Who is facilitating it?
Little known fact: Aretha Franklin's, Who's Zoomin' Who? was originally entitled - Who's Facilitatin' Who?

[boxcar]

Who is facilitating it?

Huh? This is like asking, "Who is facilitating a Great White's appetite for fish?"

Boxcar

[Hoofhearted]

Who is facilitating it?
I would suggest that it is the Capitalist system that is facilitating it, aided and abetted by Capitalism's lackeys in government and in the civil service. ( Those same lackeys are guaranteed fat pensions and lucrative non-executive directorships when they retire).
It is a matter of record that for the past few years we are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from sovereign ( national) resources into the pockets of global bankers that has ever occurred in human history. It is a thievery on a gargantuan scale that is unparalleled, and yet folks on here get uptight about some poverty-stricken person stealing food from a store.

[dartman51]

I would suggest that it is the Capitalist system that is facilitating it, aided and abetted by Capitalism's lackeys in government and in the civil service. ( Those same lackeys are guaranteed fat pensions and lucrative non-executive directorships when they retire).
It is a matter of record that for the past few years we are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from sovereign ( national) resources into the pockets of global bankers that has ever occurred in human history. It is a thievery on a gargantuan scale that is unparalleled, and yet folks on here get uptight about some poverty-stricken person stealing food from a store.

Do you REALLY believe that all the LOOTERS are poverty stricken?? Get real. The guy in the picture doesn't look like he's missed too many meals. Most people don't know what REAL POVERTY STRICKEN, really is. :ThmbUp:

[johnhannibalsmith]

Huh? This is like asking, "Who is facilitating a Great White's appetite for fish?"

Boxcar

I don't get it. If bankers are stealing billions from you and me, it isn't being done with guns and masks. It is being done with the consent of you and me or it is being done with the consent of someone or some entity that has authority over you and me. I'm not sure what your fish analogy means in the context.

[Robert Fischer]

Who is facilitating it?

could be argued that the media is the biggest facilitator...

Power concentrates. That's the law.
Man is not immune from the law.

It's trendy to say it's happening at a higher rate than ever now. Who knows...

Grander scale? Sure, bigger population.

The name "capitalism" for the system has been popular for at least a couple hundred years, and is embraced at this point as much as it is derided.

Are the masses dumber than ever now due technological advances in general, and a welfare state? Maybe. Survival in the lower class is actually very competitive, so such a view could overlook much. The media, however could be argued to have a stronger influence now than ever before. In some senses the the media could be said to leverage economy.

[johnhannibalsmith]

I would suggest that it is the Capitalist system that is facilitating it, aided and abetted by Capitalism's lackeys in government and in the civil service. ( Those same lackeys are guaranteed fat pensions and lucrative non-executive directorships when they retire).
It is a matter of record that for the past few years we are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from sovereign ( national) resources into the pockets of global bankers that has ever occurred in human history. It is a thievery on a gargantuan scale that is unparalleled, and yet folks on here get uptight about some poverty-stricken person stealing food from a store.

So then a corrupt government is ultimately responsible for the exploitation of the capitalist system?

[boxcar]

I would suggest that it is the Capitalist system that is facilitating it, aided and abetted by Capitalism's lackeys in government and in the civil service. ( Those same lackeys are guaranteed fat pensions and lucrative non-executive directorships when they retire).
It is a matter of record that for the past few years we are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from sovereign ( national) resources into the pockets of global bankers that has ever occurred in human history. It is a thievery on a gargantuan scale that is unparalleled, and yet folks on here get uptight about some poverty-stricken person stealing food from a store.

I would suggest it is the goal of world domination by Communism that is "facilitating" it. (This is what globalism is all about.) The banksters ultimately want to replace capitalism with state-run and state-controlled markets.

The great transfer of wealth that we're witnessing is attributable to the huge debts of socialist nations. These debts are ran up to fund social programs -- to help ensure the propagation of the "social justice" ideal. These very powerful and wealthy bankers (such as the Rothschilds) dearly love to lend to governments because their loans are virtually secured. They know governments can pick the pockets of its citizens through the taxation process whenever necessary. (By the way, this is why virtually every modern nation in the world has a central banking system that is established by these banksters. But that's okay because I'm sure that if Romney gets elected, he will have the wisdom and courage to terminate the Federal Reserve Bank with extreme prejudice.) :D

Quite a little racket these bankers have... But, of course, the good times for these greedy crooks won't last forever. The bottom must eventually fall out.

Boxcar

[boxcar]

I don't get it. If bankers are stealing billions from you and me, it isn't being done with guns and masks. It is being done with the consent of you and me or it is being done with the consent of someone or some entity that has authority over you and me. I'm not sure what your fish analogy means in the context.

A great white has a voracious appetite because that's its nature. But just as importantly, he's at the top of the food chain. What other fish is going to compete with or control or measure such a beast?

Likewise, the uber rich answer virtually to no one. Their money can buy just about anything or anyone or any favors they desire. Their money can also be used for destructive purposes and bring virtually anyone or even any institution or even any nation to its knees. (Recall Soros the great currency manipulator?) They are at the very pinnacle of the human "food chain". And they, like the shark, have a voracious appetite that can never be satisfied. The more money they have, the more they want. And this goes equally for power, since money can buy power. And I am convinced beyond any shadow of a doubt that it is their love for their money that is responsible for so much of the evil in this world. Their love for wealth is the root of all the world's social and political problems.

How can you and I stop the Bilderbergs, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers, JP Morgans or Soroses, etc. of the world? Previous generations could possibly have prevented the banksters' tentacles from reaching into the U.S. by protesting to Congress before it passed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, for starters. But that horsey is kinda out of the barn now, isn't it?

But we're very slow to learn from history, aren't we? A great crisis is what precipitated the above legislation to be be passed. Virtually everyone believed that that law would heal the nation from its Great Depression. And, yes, it worked for awhile. But look at the mess we're in now. The chickens are coming home to roost, aren't they?

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

I don't get it. If bankers are stealing billions from you and me, it isn't being done with guns and masks. It is being done with the consent of you and me or it is being done with the consent of someone or some entity that has authority over you and me. I'm not sure what your fish analogy means in the context. My bank recently honored a motor club automatic renewal even though 2 years ago I signed a piece of paper saying to decline a charges to my debt card when there wasn't funds in the account to cover. a $ 30 overdraft was turned into $150 when they kept charging weekly over draft fees. There were two business at fault . The motor club who did the automatic renewal even though they weren't authorized to do so and the bank. They both claim they sent letters saying what they had done although I never recieved them because I am still in a rehab facility. The bank finally called after a month. Neither of them had an excuse for what they had done and neither offered to cover the cost their mistakes although bank did drop a couple of the weekly overdraft fees. At least my car has roadsde coverage if I am ever able to drive it again.

[johnhannibalsmith]

My bank recently honored a motor club automatic renewal even though 2 years ago I signed a piece of paper saying to decline a charges to my debt card when there wasn't funds in the account to cover. a $ 30 overdraft was turned into $150 when they kept charging weekly over draft fees. There were two business at fault . The motor club who did the automatic renewal even though they weren't authorized to do so and the bank. They both claim they sent letters saying what they had done although I never recieved them because I am still in a rehab facility. The bank finally called after a month. Neither of them had an excuse for what they had done and neither offered to cover the cost their mistakes although bank did drop a couple of the weekly overdraft fees. At least my car has roadsde coverage if I am ever able to drive it again.

Something similar happened to me over a decade ago. The bank was completely at fault for a series of overdrafts that were completely bogus. I went to the local branch and they admitted it was their fault. They told me to file paperwork with the "central office" in some other city to have the account credited and for everything to hunky-dory again. I refused. I told them to fix my account now or to close it. They ended up closing it and I've never opened another anywhere. **** them and I'm glad I did it then before they devised 1,001 new schemes to **** me out of my money. For most people they are at best a necessary evil, and only necessary for them because they have become convinced of their necessity. And really that necessity is rooted in people's need for convenience. And really that convenience is only marginally convenient when balanced against the aggravation of just having to deal with them.

[johnhannibalsmith]

A great white has a voracious appetite because that's its nature. But just as importantly, he's at the top of the food chain. What other fish is going to compete with or control or measure such a beast?

...

Boxcar

Okay. I guess I agree with a lot of this post. I just didn't quite understand what seemed at the time like an objection to the implication that the theft was being facilitated and using the metaphor as a sharp explanation for the objection.

[wisconsin]

And so, the moral of the story is.......

......open a bank.

[boxcar]

Something similar happened to me over a decade ago. The bank was completely at fault for a series of overdrafts that were completely bogus. I went to the local branch and they admitted it was their fault. They told me to file paperwork with the "central office" in some other city to have the account credited and for everything to hunky-dory again. I refused. I told them to fix my account now or to close it. They ended up closing it and I've never opened another anywhere. **** them and I'm glad I did it then before they devised 1,001 new schemes to **** me out of my money. For most people they are at best a necessary evil, and only necessary for them because they have become convinced of their necessity. And really that necessity is rooted in people's need for convenience. And really that convenience is only marginally convenient when balanced against the aggravation of just having to deal with them.

That's a bank for you! They admit to a mistake, but then don't take the next important step to provide real customer service by trying to fix it for you. That is chutzpah!

I am coming close to emulating your action. I'm now down to only 2 bank accounts, and one of them I could close immediately, suffering no inconvenience.

Boxcar

[boxcar]

Okay. I guess I agree with a lot of this post. I just didn't quite understand what seemed at the time like an objection to the implication that the theft was being facilitated and using the metaphor as a sharp explanation for the objection.

In the case of the looter, his theft was "facilitated" by a sick society and even sicker public policies -- policies that foster an entitlement mentality and a victimization psychology.

Boxcar

[Robert Fischer]

Wouldn't the super-rich banker have that same "entitlement mentality" that "facilitates" the looter?

In the case of the looter, his theft was "facilitated" by a sick society and even sicker public policies -- policies that foster an entitlement mentality and a victimization psychology.

Boxcar

[horses4courses]

One of the most informative sources I saw on Sandy was in the European press.
They had live updates regularly as the severity of the storm unfolded.
Within their coverage were reports of looting - at first near Coney Island.
Later downtown NY was mentioned.

I noticed these reports surfaced more than 24 hours before Ralph posted this thread.
Added to this, I saw nothing on CNN, which is my normal US news source. Seems the media may have been keeping quiet about the unrest.
I'm not sure what the extent of the looting was at that point, but I don't think it was being reported.

[ElKabong]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/looters-target-coney-island-sandy-article-1.1195080

Lots of similar stories coming out of Brooklyn and other places

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1195097.1351705879!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-looting2-1031.jpg

There's your Poster boy for Obama's Hope and Change, right there.

"Young man, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"
.
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[sandpit]

And so, the moral of the story is.......

......open a bank.

Or join a credit union; mine never charges me for anything, unless it's something I initiate, such as a refinance or car loan.

[RaceBookJoe]

There's your Poster boy for Obama's Hope and Change, right there.

"Young man, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?"
.
.

Maybe 0bama will give us the " If i had a son, he would look just like ... " :)

[Hoofhearted]

Another day; Another Dollar.

Just today, another exposed scam of these profit-parasite bankers:
"Bank faces £270million fine for allegedly manipulating energy market in US."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2226592/Barclays-traders-damned-emails-reveal-bragged-rigging-energy-prices-make-profits.html

[boxcar]

Wouldn't the super-rich banker have that same "entitlement mentality" that "facilitates" the looter?

But the entitlement mentality that "facilitates" the looter is largely the fault of our culture and government policies. These foster such a mentality. The greedy banker just wants to feed his own lust for more and more. With the looter, his choices are more influenced by external influences (such as I just mentioned), whereas with the banker, his choices are driven more by internal influences.

Boxcar

[Bettowin]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/looters-target-coney-island-sandy-article-1.1195080

Lots of similar stories coming out of Brooklyn and other places

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1195097.1351705879!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-looting2-1031.jpg


Mike Tyson looting?

[badcompany]

I would suggest that it is the Capitalist system that is facilitating it, aided and abetted by Capitalism's lackeys in government and in the civil service. ( Those same lackeys are guaranteed fat pensions and lucrative non-executive directorships when they retire).
It is a matter of record that for the past few years we are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth from sovereign ( national) resources into the pockets of global bankers that has ever occurred in human history. It is a thievery on a gargantuan scale that is unparalleled, and yet folks on here get uptight about some poverty-stricken person stealing food from a store.

What you conveniently leave out is that the banking system is what allowed the Socialist welfare state to stay afloat for so long by buying government debt.

I would argue that it's the absense of Capitalism which keeps people poor. When Free Markets are allowed to flourish, places like Hong Kong and Singapore, which have virtually no natural resources, magically become wealthy.

The Left's argument against Capitalism is that of a spoiled child. "We don't have enough!" But, they never look at what life was like in Capitalist countries BEFORE Capitialism.

[Robert Fischer]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1195097.1351705879%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/article-looting2-1031.jpg

Mike Tyson looting?

:D I don't know, but the Jets could sure use some of those guys...

[Robert Goren]

What you conveniently leave out is that the banking system is what allowed the Socialist welfare state to stay afloat for so long by buying government debt.

I would argue that it's the absense of Capitalism which keeps people poor. When Free Markets are allowed to flourish, places like Hong Kong and Singapore, which have virtually no natural resources, magically become wealthy.

The Left's argument against Capitalism is that of a spoiled child. "We don't have enough!" But, they never look at what life was like in Capitalist countries BEFORE Capitialism. They have some very rich people living there, but the vast majority of the population is very poor. From what I have read most their wealth is on paper which as 2008 proved here can disappear over night. Natural resources and the ability to convert those resources to goods which are marketable is what makes a country truely rich. I am not sure that Hong Kong and/or Singapore has that. What they have is banks and trading markets. Places that have natural resources that haven't yet been developed are the sleeping giants. Places with only paper wealth are places that are just waiting for trouble in their economy.

[Robert Fischer]

But the entitlement mentality that "facilitates" the looter is largely the fault of our culture and government policies. These foster such a mentality. The greedy banker just wants to feed his own lust for more and more. With the looter, his choices are more influenced by external influences (such as I just mentioned), whereas with the banker, his choices are driven more by internal influences.

Boxcar

both products of the system

If you look at it on a macro-level, as a group of people they don't even have freedom of choice. In any given system with these forces you will have the population divide in similar ways, and behave in similar ways. That isn't to say the looter or the banker shouldn't be held personally accountable if they break the rules.

[boxcar]

both products of the system

If you look at it on a macro-level, as a group of people they don't even have freedom of choice. In any given system with these forces you will have the population divide in similar ways, and behave in similar ways. That isn't to say the looter or the banker shouldn't be held personally accountable if they break the rules.

And all men are products of the human condition.

If I have time later, I will post a little commentary on what is going on in NYC, as we have liberals devouring one another, turning on each other -- politicians v. the people, and the people v. politicians. It's really incredible what is going on up there.

Boxcar

[Dahoss9698]

And all men are products of the human condition.

If I have time later, I will post a little commentary on what is going on in NYC, as we have liberals devouring one another, turning on each other -- politicians v. the people, and the people v. politicians. It's really incredible what is going on up there.

Boxcar
I for one can't wait for this commentary.

[bigmack]

Rest assured, Cuomo, Shumer & BO are handling things now.

Everything will be be JUST FINE. :rolleyes:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/DRUDGEREPORT2012-1.png

[badcompany]

They have some very rich people living there, but the vast majority of the population is very poor. From what I have read most their wealth is on paper which as 2008 proved here can disappear over night. Natural resources and the ability to convert those resources to goods which are marketable is what makes a country truely rich. I am not sure that Hong Kong and/or Singapore has that. What they have is banks and trading markets. Places that have natural resources that haven't yet been developed are the sleeping giants. Places with only paper wealth are places that are just waiting for trouble in their economy.

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1182869/1/.html

SINGAPORE: Singapore households were better off last year, as the median monthly household income per member rose to S$1,990, from S$1,850 in 2010.

The average household size was 3.5 persons, which was unchanged since 2006.

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Notice that I picked an article that didn't use the average but the MEDIAN which is the middle person.

The real common thread among successful economies is not natural resources but ECONOMIC FREEDOM. Singapore continually ranks near the top. Planned economies populate the bottom.



The Left's argument against Capitalism is that of a spoiled child. "We don't have enough!" But, they never look at what life was like in Capitalist countries BEFORE Capitialism.

Thanks for providing a textbook example of the above quote.

[LottaKash]

Rest assured, Cuomo, Shumer & BO are handling things now.

Everything will be be JUST FINE. :rolleyes:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/DRUDGEREPORT2012-1.png

What time does the "NYC Marathon" start ?....:jump:

[bigmack]

What time does the "NYC Marathon" start ?....:jump:
Bloomboig is a raging fool. Like running the Tour de France after Paris fell to the Nazi's.

'Course that imbecile MikaB (an AVID runner as shown in the multitude of cutaway pictures they show of her in her running gear, looking positively 'rockstarlike' ) said maybe this is just what NY needs to uplift her spirit. :bang:

http://www.runnersworld.com/images/cma/brzezinski_jul10_200.jpg

[kingfin66]

I for one can't wait for this commentary.

I too am anxiously awaiting commentary from the Great Bigmack. I am now is number one fanboy. The potential problem for me is that I am fluent in English only. If it is written in Ebonics, I will have to have it translated.

[Robert Goren]

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1182869/1/.html

SINGAPORE: Singapore households were better off last year, as the median monthly household income per member rose to S$1,990, from S$1,850 in 2010.

The average household size was 3.5 persons, which was unchanged since 2006.

**********

Notice that I picked an article that didn't use the average but the MEDIAN which is the middle person.

The real common thread among successful economies is not natural resources but ECONOMIC FREEDOM. Singapore continually ranks near the top. Planned economies populate the bottom.



Thanks for providing a textbook example of the above quote.That converts to annual income of $19,500 in US dollars. By comparision the median income in the US is tad over $50,000 even under Obama! Singapore is in economic boom and the US is still recovering from the 2008 recession. The worst economic down turn since Hurbert Hoover. Yet the US median income is over 2 1/2 times of Singapore. That says a lot about the US.

[johnhannibalsmith]

That converts to annual income of $19,500 in US dollars. By comparision the median income in the US is tad over $50,000 even under Obama! Singapore is in economic boom and the US is still recovering from the 2008 recession. The worst economic down turn since Hurbert Hoover. Yet the US median income is over 2 1/2 times of Singapore. That says a lot about the US.

Says alot about me too... I'd be poor even in friggin Singapore... :D

[badcompany]

Says alot about me too... I'd be poor even in friggin Singapore... :D

Even poorer than you think. Goren, the Wrongway Feldman of PA, got it backasswards, again.

I gave a stat for household income per capita. He assumed it to be total household income. That's why he thinks U.S GDP per capita is 2.5 times that of Singapore, when, in fact, the GDP per capita of Singapore is actually higher than that of the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

My point, that the wealthiest countries, are those that have the most economic freedom, still holds.

Back to the drawing board, Goren.

[boxcar]

What time does the "NYC Marathon" start ?....:jump:

Amazing how the media is downplaying Obama's Sandy. Or would that be Bloomy's Sandy?

Boxcar
P.S. Oh yeah, that marathon was finally cancelled. It took Bloomy only a few days to figure out his priorities (a decision he made under severe duress, I suppose). :rolleyes: "NYC Cancels Marathon After Outcry..." (from Drudge)

[bigmack]

Another, in a long line of GRUELING workdays for the American people by our feckless leader. How DOES he do it? :ThmbUp:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/PresidentsSchedule-November22012-TheWhiteHouse.png

[boxcar]

Another, in a long line of GRUELING workdays for the American people by our feckless leader. How DOES he do it? :ThmbUp:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/PresidentsSchedule-November22012-TheWhiteHouse.png

The prez can always blame Bloomy for all the bad things. After all, Bloom told the prez to stay home. That freed the prez up to make his home for the day the state of Ohio.

Boxcar

[JustRalph]

Another, in a long line of GRUELING workdays for the American people by our feckless leader. How DOES he do it? :ThmbUp:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/PresidentsSchedule-November22012-TheWhiteHouse.png

I want to know how he got from Hilliard to Springfield? Did he drive?

[Tom]

I want to know how he got from Hilliard to Springfield? Did he drive?

He beamed.

[JustRalph]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/24/15413723-sandy-hit-homes-ransacked-while-families-away-for-thanksgiving?lite

Sandy victims burgled