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Ray2000
09-28-2012, 08:57 AM
Continue with the $5/5 W/P "Let-r-Ride" parlays for a while.

No comments, these will be raw Robot Picks filtered by
...Win Probabilty 30% minimum
...Not Morning Line listed 1st or 2nd choice.
...Ave or Good Drivers only
This might generate a lot of chalk but should be best for the parlay chance.

Ahead for the first 2 days but will start fresh with the scoring today.

Friday 9/28

Meadows R4..........5 ...Float Blue Chip-4/1
Meadows R11.........8 ...Ak'S Livin Large-4/1

Mohawk R3...........8 ...Sugar Valley Alley-6/1
Mohawk R7...........10 ...Lucky Encounter-8/1

Northfield R6.......7 ...I Love To Boggie-9/2
Northfield R8.......3 ...A Patchy Sun-4/1

Pocono R7...........8 ...Four Starz Kyle-6/1
Pocono R9...........9 ...Jolt Demanded-4/1
Pocono R15..........8 ...Day Traker-15/1

GLA

Ray2000
09-29-2012, 05:42 AM
Meadows
Float Blue Chip......Winner $3.80 $2.60 5/5 returns $16.00
Ak'S Livin Large.....Showed


Mohawk
Sugar Valley Alley..OTB
Lucky Encounter.....OTB

Northfield
I Love To Boggie....Placed $2.80 5/5 returns $7.00
A Patchy Sun........Placed $2.80 3/3 returns $4.20

Pocono
Four Starz Kyle.....Winner $6.40 $3.8 5/5 returns $25.50
Jolt Demanded.......(Bled pulled back)
Day Traker..........Winner $18.00 $9.60 (nothing riding :bang: :bang: )

Starting bets $40, Return $4.20 net -$36

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Saturday's Let-r-Ride Parlays

Flamboro R1.........6...My Fine Ingot-8/1
Flamboro R4.........3...Forever Linda-4/1

Mohawk R4...........4...Dreamfair Kovu-10/1
Mohawk R6...........7...The Mechanic-10/1

Northfield R7.......5...Dm Ion-9/2
Northfield R8.......5...Sure Thing-4/1

Pocono R2...........8...Mcsocks-9/2
Pocono R3...........4...Cocktail Attire-4/1
Pocono R15..........5...Dry Gulch-4/1

Vernon R7...........6...Hot Cowboy-12/1
Vernon R8...........5...Restless Yankee-4/1

Yonkers R1..........2...Defiance N-6/1
Yonkers R11.........7...One More Laugh-5/1

GLA

mrroyboy
09-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Both your Yonkers picks look good Ray. Only problem with "laugh" is the post position

Ray2000
09-30-2012, 05:01 AM
Flamboro
R1....My Fine Ingot........Showed
R4....Forever Linda........Showed

Mohawk
R4....Dreamfair Kovu-......OTB
R6....The Mechanic-........OTB

Northfield
R7....Dm Ion...............Placed $2.80 5/5 returns $7.00
R8....Sure Thing...........Winner $5.40 $3.80 3/3 returns $13.80

Pocono
R2....Mcsocks..............Showed
R3....Cocktail Attire......Showed
R15...Dry Gulch............Winner $3.60 $2.60

Vernon
R7....Hot Cowboy...........Placed $7.00 5/5 returns $17.50
R8....Restless Yankee......Placed $3.90 9/9 returns $17.55

Yonkers
R1....Defiance N...........Showed
R11...One More Laugh.......Showed


Starting bets $70, Return $31.35 net -$38.65

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Sunday's Let-r-Ride Parlays

Colonial R1.....2 Lion Of Judah-5/1
Colonial R8.....8 Blah Blah Blah-10/1
Colonial R10....7 Brandon'S Colt-5/1

Saratoga R2.....8 Tiger Kitty-12/1
Saratoga R12....7 Whispur-15/1


12/1? 15/1? What was that I said about chalk? :D
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melman
09-30-2012, 10:45 AM
Ray out of five Sunday plays three of them have morning lines of 10-1 or higher. You were saying about a lot of chalk. ;) Of course there are a lot of bad morning lines out there. I'll list some various "human factor" plays of mine under your thread if you don't mind. These are based on driver or trainer or a combo of them. Not on overall stats but on results I have with them when I have bet them in the past.

9-30
Balmoral
R1 5 Powerful Poe
R6 4 MJ's Bid
R9 8 TE's Zenyatta

Ray2000
09-30-2012, 11:49 AM
mel, thx for posting. I like your Race 6 pick so I'll add another W/P parlay with Race 11
#10 Fox Valley Ivan... bad post and the only 2 yo in the race but a driver change (Todd Warren) and gets away nicely. Definately not chalk :)

GL

melman
09-30-2012, 12:04 PM
Ray I'll add a couple for today at Saratoga.

R3 4 Bluechip Girl
R12 2 Sandra Dee Go Fast

Hard to say what off odds on my R9 pick at Balmoral. Outside posts at Maywood last few. That could be noted or not noted. :) Had a zinger of a race at a fair track. Looking for a good early pace.

Ray2000
10-01-2012, 05:15 AM
Had 86 bucks riding on a very shaky horse,
Tetrick put a LTM 1:55- on 6 yo Whispur 3 weeks ago and next race he couldn't go 2:00.
Big bounce but I took the the chance on a recovery...NOPE, he puked again

Colonial
R1...Lion Of Judah-......OTB
R8...Blah Blah Blah......OTB
R10..Brandon'S Colt......Showed

Saratoga
R2...Tiger Kitty........Winner $24.40 $10.20 5/5 returns $86.50
R12..Whispur............OTB $43/43 returns $0

Balmoral
R6...MJ's Bid...........Winner $4.20 $3.00 5/5 returns $18.00 (Good call mel)
R11..Fox Valley Ivan....Showed 9/9 returns $0


Starting bets $40, Return $0


Mondays Parlays

Harrington R2...3 True Desire-5/1
Harrington R4...7 Arduous-10/1
Harrington R6...6 Stolen Car-6/1

Meadows R5......3 Real Attitude-5/1
Meadows R11.....2 Dark Lightning-5/1

Northfield R6...8 Mr Taurus-8/1
Northfield R8...7 Bandolero-8/1

Woodbine R4.....8 Keystone Orion-8/1
Woodbine R7.....9 Cam East-7/1

Yonkers R1......5 Artie'S Gift-5/1
Yonkers R12.....7 Show Me Up-8/1

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Ray2000
10-01-2012, 06:34 PM
Putting a $50 cap on Let-r-Ride Parlays

R4 Arduous ....$ 67.80 .....$22.60.....5/5 returns $226

else I'll be matching the pot in the place pool...............


Harrington Race 6...$50/50 on Stolen Car-6/1

lamboguy
10-01-2012, 06:38 PM
Putting a $50 cap on Let-r-Ride Parlays

R4 Arduous ....$ 67.80 .....$22.60.....5/5 returns $226

else I'll be matching the pot in the place pool...............


Harrington Race 6...$50/50 on Stolen Car-6/1
real nice one Ray. if you bet everything on the next one you would influence the pools to much and be betting against yourself......

Ray2000
10-02-2012, 06:26 AM
You got that right, Lambo. The 'Law of Diminishing Returns' is a killer on heavy bettors in Harness. Surprisingly tho, There was $2200 in the R6 place pool at Harrington.

Harrington
True Desire........Showed
Arduous............Winner $67.80 $22.60 5/5 returns $226
Stolen Car.........OTB 50/50 returns $0

Meadows
Real Attitude......OTB
Dark Lightning.....Winner $6.40 $4.00

Northfield
Mr Taurus..........Showed
Bandolero..........Placed $6.80

Woodbine
Keystone Orion.....Showed
Cam East...........OTB

Yonkers
Artie'S Gift.......Placed $4.00 5/5 retuns $10
Show Me Up.........OTB 5/5 retuns $0

Starting Bets $60, Return $126, +$66 (cap saved it)



Tuesdays Plays

Pocono R7.......4 Paula's Brady-6/1
Pocono R12......8 Timewell-9/2

Meadows R5......5 Tough Call-5/1
Meadows R15.....4 Hogue'S Rockie-12/1

Monticello R6...1 Diamond Howard-4/1
Monticello R11..4 Sam's Slot Machine-7/2

Yonkers R8......3 Keystone Rideau-4/1
Yonkers R12.....8 Cold Bath-6/1

Ray2000
10-03-2012, 06:30 AM
Pocono R7...... Paula's Brady .....Placed $5.40 5/5 .......returns $13.50
Pocono R12..... Timewell ..........Winner $13.40 $5.00 7/7 returns $64.40

Meadows R5..... Tough Call.........OTB
Meadows R15.... Hogue'S Rockie.....OTB

Monticello R6.. Diamond Howard ....Placed $3.00
Monticello R11. Sam's Slot Machine.OTB ...........3/3 returns $0

Yonkers R8..... Keystone Rideau-...Placed $4.00
Yonkers R12.... Cold Bath-.........OTB ...............5/5 returns $0

Starting Bets $40.00, End with $64.40 +$24


Wednesdays parlays

Batavia R10.....4 Ronny B Good-10/1
Batavia R12.....4 Big Mystery-5/1

Meadows R3......2 Mariko Hanover-6/1
Meadows R12.....3 Sara Diamond-6/1

Monticello R8...5 Justa Rebel-7/2
Monticello R12..5 Best Of Times-7/2

Pocono R1.......7 Windsong Gorgeous-4/1
Pocono R6.......5 Hope Reins Supreme-6/1
Pocono R12......8 P L Eureka-8/1



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LottaKash
10-03-2012, 02:54 PM
Ray, I have been watching you with keen interest lately....:jump:

I like what you are doing with your knowledge base....Perhaps you are onto a "very good thing"...

As usual, I am always rooting for you....You put in so much of your time, and you are always so willing to share that knowledge with others, so, I hope you crush this year, you deserve it Ray....:cool:

Keep on !...

Ray2000
10-03-2012, 03:19 PM
thanks John

We've missed your (and other long time players) comments lately. Glad to see you're still checking the "Dark Side".

I suspect sadly, that's because game is no longer what it used to be.
.....Oh well, guess I'll just be a die-hard. ;)

GL

LottaKash
10-03-2012, 03:48 PM
thanks John

We've missed your (and other long time players) comments lately. Glad to see you're still checking the "Dark Side".

I suspect sadly, that's because game is no longer what it used to be.
.....Oh well, guess I'll just be a die-hard. ;)

GL

I am glad at least someone missed me...haha !

Yeah Ray, it seems as if I have been away from my "Computer" for a good while now....And, for Oh so many reasons....It hilarious tho, how life prevents you from being where and doing things that you would rather do....

It has been a roller coaster ride, and I could probably write a book about the sequence of events that took place that prevented me from posting here....

Well Ray, I am back but not for a lack of love for the game, I still have that....just that shit happens, haha!....

While I was away from my desk, I had been, in earnest, researching my researching...Going over my game with a fine-toothed comb....So, that was a good thing.....Actually I enjoyed the break....And I am stronger than before, handicapping-wise, that is....Health is good too....I broke some fingers on my righht hand, and I am now just getting back to good use with the digits...

I have changed my game big time as of lately, and have come to grips with some critical and most important issues affecting my bottom line....."The reality of my game"....You know the truth of the matter(s)...I am in a very good place with my game now....Very clear, and very difinitive ...

In the very near future I will post a few things that may help others....Why should I or anyone want to do that....Beacause A strong and more knowledgable (*just not too knowlegeable, haha*) player base is necessary in order for this game to continue in good health....I will try to help with that, as best as I can....

Keep up Ray....You have inspired me a bit, latlely, in the parlay regard....I have always loved the concept, "Bet a littlen win a lot".....It is a good way to cut down on expenses when one is on a tight budget....Hey, you can get a lot of Bang for your Buck with a cheap parlay....At Canada's WEG tracks, heck, you can do a win parlay for as little as a buck....:jump:

I would give that as good advice, for anyone with a limited bankroll, and is still learning the in's and out's of handicapping....."Play for a DOLLAR, and earn while you learn"....:jump:

ONe could play and pray for a 3 or 4 bagger, and the most you could lose on that play, is a BUCK....

mrroyboy
10-03-2012, 06:30 PM
jOHN What do you mean "somebody missed you?" EVERYBODY missed you. And we would love to hear the changes you have made to your game. We all need all the help we can get. Please teach us Master!!!

LottaKash
10-04-2012, 02:31 AM
jOHN What do you mean "somebody missed you?" EVERYBODY missed you. And we would love to hear the changes you have made to your game. We all need all the help we can get. Please teach us Master!!!

Thx Roy for your sentiment, but puhleeze quit it wit dat Master stuff, haha !..Ok?....I mean I like it, but it is not so deserved....I'm just another player that does ok, is all...

Ray2000
10-04-2012, 05:51 AM
$48 riding on last race of the night for me.
garden trip... faded :(

Batavia
R10...Ronny B Good ..........Showed
R12...Big Mystery............Placed

Meadows
R3....Mariko Hanover.........OTB
R12...Sara Diamond...........OTB

Monticello
R8...Justa Rebel.............Winner $7.40 $3.20 5/5 returns $26
R12..Best Of Times...........OTB 13/13 returns $0

Pocono
R1...Windsong Gorgeous.......Winner $5.00 $3.40 5/5 returns $21
R6...Hope Reins Supreme......Winner $6.00 $3.80 10/10 returns $49
R12..P L Eureka..............OTB 24/24 returns zip



-$40

Thursdays plays

Colonial R6.....7 Vyce-5/1
Colonial R7.....5 Doc'S Zippy-9/2

Plainridge R1...5 Doully-10/1
Plainridge R7...7 Prince Rocco-4/1

Yonkers R5......8 Firebreathn Dragon-10/1.. beat Boxcar from inside on sep 10
Yonkers R9......8 Vesuvio Grande-6/1........post will hurt this closer, try anyway



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Ray2000
10-05-2012, 05:19 AM
Colonial
R6...Vyce.................Showed
R7...Doc'S Zippy..........Winner $8.20 $4.20

Plainridge
R1...Doully...............Winner $17.00 $8.40 5/5 returns $63.50
R7...Prince Rocco.........OTB $31/31 returns $0

Yonkers
R5....Firebreathn Dragon..OTB
R9....Vesuvio Grande......OTB

-$30

Fridays plays
(Batavia has 2, 2 race parlays not a 4 race LetrRide)

Batavia R1......8 One More Molly-6/1 ....last 6 starts, 6 different drivers?
Batavia R4......8 Blissfull Jessie-12/1

Batavia R7......1 Indy'S Z Tam-4/1
Batavia R9......4 Need Help Here-9/2

Meadows R2......4 Spectacular Amber-6/1
Meadows R13.....9 Bettis-6/1

Vernon R4.......7 Kingapore-8/1
Vernon R9.......6 Dreamanotherdream-5/1

Yonkers R5......5 Political Desire-5/1
Yonkers R12.....6 Foxy Lady-6/1


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Ray2000
10-06-2012, 06:02 AM
One nice hit, couldn't couple it...

Batavia
R1... One More Molly-...............Showed
R4... Blissfull Jessie-.............OTB

Batavia
R7... Indy'S Z Tam-.................Showed
R9... Need Help Here-...............Placed $3.10

Meadows
R2....Spectacular Amber-............Winner $16.20 $8.60 5/5 returns $62.00
R13...Bettis-.......................OTB 31/31 returns $0

Vernon
R4.... Kingapore-...................Placed $3.40 5/5 returns $8.50
R9.... Dreamanotherdream-...........OTB 4/4 returns $0

Yonkers
R5... Political Desire-.............OTB
R12.. Foxy Lady-....................Winner $5.80 $3.80

-50


Saturday's Plays,....Last night of test run...
3 horse parlays at Fraser, Northfield, Yonkers w/ restart

Batavia R10.....1 Rock N Bliss-8/1
Batavia R12.....8 Starbux Eden-10/1

Fraser R2.......4 Coolestdudeintown-4/1
Fraser R5.......6 Lilshakerboomboom-9/2
Fraser R8.......1 Latino Hall-6/1

Northfield R1...2 Full Of Elegance-4/1
Northfield R7...5 Atta Boy Dan-10/1
Northfield R13..5 Shockbyelectric-10/1

Rosecroft R3....8 Ms America-6/1
Rosecroft R10...6 Shewolf-4/1

Vernon R5.......6 Super Grover-10/1
Vernon R12......7 Zigaro-10/1

Woodbine R6.....8 Red Zeppelin-7/1
Woodbine R12....10 My Man Charley-7/1

Yonkers R1......1 What'Sittoyougrant-5/1
Yonkers R4......4 Alfredsson-5/1
Yonkers R5......2 Safe Harbor-5/1


GLA

LottaKash
10-06-2012, 04:25 PM
Saturday's Plays,....Last night of test run...
3 horse parlays at Fraser, Northfield, Yonkers w/ restart

GLA

Ray, Good very Luck on the last test....I hope you crush-em tonite !!!...:jump:

mrroyboy
10-06-2012, 05:03 PM
Well Ray Good news and bad news

Bad news is I like your picks in the 1 and 4 at Yonkers. Good news is I am NOT betting them!! That means they should win for fun. Good Luck Ray

Ray2000
10-07-2012, 06:37 AM
You saved money Roy, :) thx LK

start $80 Starting bets, $34 return
Batavia
R10...Rock N Bliss ...........OTB
R12...Starbux Eden ...........Showed
Fraser
R2....Coolestdudeintown ......Winner $4.60 $3.30 ..5/5 returns $19.75
R5....Lilshakerboomboom ......OTB ...............10/10 returns $0
R8....Latino Hall ............OTB
Northfield
R1....Full Of Elegance .......Placed $3.00 ........5/5 returns $7.50
R7....Atta Boy Dan ...........Winner $3.40 $2.80 ..4/4 returns $12.40
R13...Shockbyelectric ........Winner $6.80 $4.60...6/6 returns $34.20
Rosecroft
R3....Ms America..............OTB
R10...Shewolf.................OTB
Vernon
R5....Super Grover............Showed (10.80 :( )
R12...Zigaro..................OTB
Woodbine
R6 ...Red Zeppelin............OTB
R12..My Man Charley...........Showed
Yonkers
R1....What'Sittoyougrant......Showed
R4....Alfredsson..............OTB
R5....Safe Harbor.............OTB Winner $5.40 $2.40


Test run Totals

11 days, 108 races

Win Wagers ROI 1.34, Place ROI .99

Parlays -$133

IMO The parlay is a good way to structure Win/Place betting but you can't lock yourself in with a 'Let it All Ride' rule, like I did for this test. Should work well with conditional betting on leg 1 (>3/1) and post time decisions on leg 2.

Good Luck to All



GLA