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HUSKER55
09-18-2012, 06:08 AM
WHAT HAS BARRACK OBAMA DONE TO EARN YOUR VOTE. LET US SEE HOW FAR THIS GOES.

Dahoss9698
09-18-2012, 08:51 AM
Tough to actually spell his name right, huh?

woodtoo
09-18-2012, 09:54 AM
Show the B.C. then we'll know.:D

hcap
09-18-2012, 10:06 AM
Show the B.C. then we'll know.:DYou guys think it's a Burth Certificate. I guess that's why you were never satisfied with the Birth Certificate he posted on the internet for all youse Burthers to see

Tom
09-18-2012, 10:10 AM
Of course anything you see on the internet is always true.

hcap
09-18-2012, 10:24 AM
Maybe we should use some cans and some string?

I know what you mean. For instance don't believe this garbage.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp




Believe this garbage instead

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/donald_trump_combover.jpg

HUSKER55
09-18-2012, 10:57 AM
HOSS SAID I SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG, GOT ME THERE.

BUT NO ONE HAS GIVEN ANY REASON WHY BO HAS EARNED THEIR VOTE.

EVEN FROM HCAP!

SOMEWHERE.....THAT IS A RECORD! :D

Dahoss9698
09-18-2012, 11:12 AM
HOSS SAID I SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG, GOT ME THERE.

BUT NO ONE HAS GIVEN ANY REASON WHY BO HAS EARNED THEIR VOTE.

EVEN FROM HCAP!

SOMEWHERE.....THAT IS A RECORD! :D

Considering you can't even bother to spell his name right, why should anyone bother to respond to your trolling thread honestly?

mostpost
09-18-2012, 12:06 PM
WHAT HAS BARRACK OBAMA DONE TO EARN YOUR VOTE. LET US SEE HOW FAR THIS GOES.

I will vote for Barack Obama because he most closely mirrors my political philosophy. Mitt Romney is the antithesis of what I believe politically.

But you asked what Obama has done to earn my vote. Let's start with the economy. When Obama took office unemployment was ascending to more than 10%. Monthly job losses were in excess of 750,000. The Automobile industry was crashing. Wall Street was out of control. We were fighting two wars, at least one of which we should never have started in the first place.

Upon taking office Obama faced an intransigent Republican party whose main goal-no, its only goal-was to make him a one term President. They did not care about fixing the economy. They did not care about ending the wars. They did not care about aiding homeowners. They only cared about returning to power.

In the face of this opposition, Obama was able to reverse the job loss trend to the point we are now in a string of thirty consecutive months with positive job gains. Unemployment is down to 8.1% and more importantly the U6 rate-unemployed plus those who have stopped looking is down to 14.7% from a high well over 16% at its height.

He bailed out the auto companies and over 100,000 workers who had been laid off have returned to work. He provided aid for people whose mortgages were under water through no fault of their own. He oversaw the TARP bailouts which provided stability to Wall Street, although I do fault him for not prosecuting those who caused the crisis with their illegal schemes.

He passed a comprehensive Health Care Plan, which will add 30M to the rolls of the insured and which will limit the ability of insurance companies to refuse coverage or drop policy holders to increase profits. While I would have much preferred a single payer system, Obama got what he could get and we are better off for it.

He ended our involvement in Iraq and is ending our involvement in Afgahnistan. Torture is no longer an approve interrogation technique. We now respect our allies instead of intimidating them.

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD AND GENERAL MOTORS IS ALIVE.

I am also voting for Barack Obama because of what he doesn't do. He does not lie like Republicans do. Doesn't disseminate misinformation such as "Obama eliminates work requirement for welfare" or "Obama spends $5B to fly to India or "Obama a secret Muslim" or "Obama, the Manchurian Candidate' or Obama is a socialist" or "communist" or born in Kenya.

I'm voting for Obama because Republicans know they can not win the argument if they stick to the facts.

All this is off the top of my head. If I wanted to I could do some research and find dozens more reasons to vote for Barack Obama. Right now I will settle for just one. He is not Mitt Romney.

johnhannibalsmith
09-18-2012, 12:13 PM
I will vote for Barack Obama because he most closely mirrors my political philosophy. Mitt Romney is the antithesis of what I believe politically.

But you asked what Obama has done to earn my vote. Let's start with the economy. When Obama took office unemployment was ascending to more than 10%. Monthly job losses were in excess of 750,000. The Automobile industry was crashing. Wall Street was out of control. We were fighting two wars, at least one of which we should never have started in the first place.

Upon taking office Obama faced an intransigent Republican party whose main goal-no, its only goal-was to make him a one term President. They did not care about fixing the economy. They did not care about ending the wars. They did not care about aiding homeowners. They only cared about returning to power.

In the face of this opposition, Obama was able to reverse the job loss trend to the point we are now in a string of thirty consecutive months with positive job gains. Unemployment is down to 8.1% and more importantly the U6 rate-unemployed plus those who have stopped looking is down to 14.7% from a high well over 16% at its height.

He bailed out the auto companies and over 100,000 workers who had been laid off have returned to work. He provided aid for people whose mortgages were under water through no fault of their own. He oversaw the TARP bailouts which provided stability to Wall Street, although I do fault him for not prosecuting those who caused the crisis with their illegal schemes.

He passed a comprehensive Health Care Plan, which will add 30M to the rolls of the insured and which will limit the ability of insurance companies to refuse coverage or drop policy holders to increase profits. While I would have much preferred a single payer system, Obama got what he could get and we are better off for it.

He ended our involvement in Iraq and is ending our involvement in Afgahnistan. Torture is no longer an approve interrogation technique. We now respect our allies instead of intimidating them.

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD AND GENERAL MOTORS IS ALIVE.

I am also voting for Barack Obama because of what he doesn't do. He does not lie like Republicans do. Doesn't disseminate misinformation such as "Obama eliminates work requirement for welfare" or "Obama spends $5B to fly to India or "Obama a secret Muslim" or "Obama, the Manchurian Candidate' or Obama is a socialist" or "communist" or born in Kenya.

I'm voting for Obama because Republicans know they can not win the argument if they stick to the facts.

All this is off the top of my head. If I wanted to I could do some research and find dozens more reasons to vote for Barack Obama. Right now I will settle for just one. He is not Mitt Romney.

My name is Barack Obama and I approve this message.

OntheRail
09-18-2012, 12:52 PM
bQu2SVFF-cU

:lol:

BlueShoe
09-18-2012, 01:30 PM
My name is Barack Obama and I approve this message.
My name is Barack Obama and I approve this message because I hope that you have at least some change left because I have absolutely nothing else to offer.

Valuist
09-18-2012, 02:03 PM
It doesn't look good for Romney, based on the Intrade and betting numbers. I'm completely blown away how Obama can get the vote of anyone other than hard core Dems.

That said, when the US economy goes into a deep recession and we are still struggling in 2015, will he still blame George Bush? Will he ever take ownership of the bad economy? Of course he won't.

green80
09-18-2012, 04:39 PM
My hat is off to anyone that can get elected with a fake birth certificate, a forged draft card and a bogus social security number and no investigation.

fast4522
09-18-2012, 06:10 PM
My hat is off to anyone that can get elected with a fake birth certificate, a forged draft card and a bogus social security number and no investigation.

And you forgot to mention everything he did in school sealed.

mostpost
09-18-2012, 07:34 PM
bQu2SVFF-cU

:lol:
Thank you for providing an example of how Republicans misrepresent what Obama says. They take four words "You didn't build that" and lie about what those words mean. The actual quote, "Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

Businesses do not succeed without roads to deliver their goods or without the internet to deliver their services. A business can not exist if their are no police to protect it and its customers. By itself, no business builds roads, maintain the internet, provide fire or police protection or do any of the many things necessary to maintain a business. These are only things that can be done by society at large.

Obama clearly was talking about those kinds of things when he said "You didn't build that" He was not referring to the business itself. That is made clear by the very next paragraph in his speech.
The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.[32]
Obama then cited the funding of the G.I. Bill, the creation of the middle class, the construction of the Golden Gate Bridge and Hoover Dam, inventing the Internet, and landing on the moon as examples of what he was talking about.

PaceAdvantage
09-18-2012, 07:35 PM
Thank you for providing an example of how Republicans misrepresent what Obama says. They take four words "You didn't build that" and lie about what those words mean. The actual quote,

Businesses do not succeed without roads to deliver their goods or without the internet to deliver their services. A business can not exist if their are no police to protect it and its customers. By itself, no business builds roads, maintain the internet, provide fire or police protection or do any of the many things necessary to maintain a business. These are only things that can be done by society at large.

Obama clearly was talking about those kinds of things when he said "You didn't build that" He was not referring to the business itself. That is made clear by the very next paragraph in his speech.It's good to see someone who understands what I mean about Romney's 47% comment. It's all about interpretation... :lol:

mostpost
09-18-2012, 07:41 PM
It's good to see someone who understands what I mean about Romney's 47% comment. It's all about interpretation... :lol:
Not the same thing at all. Romney said what he meant at a private fundraiser where he thought he would not be quoted. Only after it got out four months later did he try to spin it.

Obama's comments were made in public and taken in context meant almost the opposite of what Republicans claim they meant.

PaceAdvantage
09-18-2012, 07:45 PM
Not the same thing at all. Romney said what he meant at a private fundraiser where he thought he would not be quoted. Only after it got out four months later did he try to spin it.

Obama's comments were made in public and taken in context meant almost the opposite of what Republicans claim they meant.Actually, Romney hasn't tried to spin it much at all...I have...

Just like you're spinning Obama's comments, which as far as I recall, Obama hasn't tried to spin either...but I might be wrong.

ElKabong
09-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Watched the video, forgot all about Obama's "The private sector is doing fine" line.....What a buffon

green80
09-18-2012, 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by green80
My hat is off to anyone that can get elected with a fake birth certificate, a forged draft card and a bogus social security number and no investigation.



And you forgot to mention everything he did in school sealed.

yes, I did forget to mention that. A guy that can do all that has got to have something going for him.

OntheRail
09-18-2012, 09:10 PM
Thank you for providing an example of how Republicans misrepresent what Obama says. They take four words "You didn't build that" and lie about what those words mean. The actual quote,

Businesses do not succeed without roads to deliver their goods or without the internet to deliver their services. A business can not exist if their are no police to protect it and its customers. By itself, no business builds roads, maintain the internet, provide fire or police protection or do any of the many things necessary to maintain a business. These are only things that can be done by society at large.

Obama clearly was talking about those kinds of things when he said "You didn't build that" He was not referring to the business itself. That is made clear by the very next paragraph in his speech.

How do you know it's made by anyone affiliated with any party... maybe they're independents or disenfranchised youthful former Obama supporters. Your just as bad as the Muslim Fanatics blaming the Whole US for that Youtube video.... so you gonna burn down the post office in protest. As for your premises that nothing would be done without Government I say BS... commerce happened for many years without the heavy hand of federal regulation and overbearing underhandedness.

OntheRail
09-19-2012, 11:14 AM
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Really makes you wonder what is locked up in his school records...

Socialist Studies... Marxism Math... Leninism Arts... and lets not forget Reverend "God damn America" Wright on the weekends.

BlueShoe
09-19-2012, 11:36 AM
I will vote for Barack Obama because he most closely mirrors my political philosophy.
Barack Obama's political philosophy is modeled after the ideology of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Adolph Hitler, and Saul Alinsky, to name just a few. Shall we then assume that you also share these beliefs?

mostpost
09-19-2012, 12:43 PM
Barack Obama's political philosophy is modeled after the ideology of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Adolph Hitler, and Saul Alinsky, to name just a few. Shall we then assume that you also share these beliefs?
Vladimir Lenin and Adolph Hitler shared the same philosophy? Is that why the Communists and the Nazis got along so well in WWII? :rolleyes:

Under communism the state owns and controls all facets of production. There are no owners of businesses. Profits go directly to the state. In Nazi Germany of the thirties and forties, private enterprise-particularly large private enterprise flourished. Companies like Krupp and Farben showed enormous profits.

Here are my beliefs. I favor regulated capitalism. I favor strong unions. I favor a progressive income tax. I favor eliminating the cap on Social Security contributions (taxes). I think there are many things that private industry can do better than government, but there are also things government can do better than private industry.

I don't think that the government telling industry it can't pollute is socialism. I think it's common sense. I think laws defining interactions between boss and worker are not socialism. They are necessities. I believe in redistribution of wealth before the fact. In other words, pay your workers enough to live on and we will not have to tax you in order to provide them with food and housing.

Tom
09-19-2012, 12:49 PM
That means yes, huh?

dartman51
09-20-2012, 04:54 PM
Vladimir Lenin and Adolph Hitler shared the same philosophy? Is that why the Communists and the Nazis got along so well in WWII? :rolleyes:

Under communism the state owns and controls all facets of production. There are no owners of businesses. Profits go directly to the state. In Nazi Germany of the thirties and forties, private enterprise-particularly large private enterprise flourished. Companies like Krupp and Farben showed enormous profits.

Here are my beliefs. I favor regulated capitalism. I favor strong unions. I favor a progressive income tax. I favor eliminating the cap on Social Security contributions (taxes). I think there are many things that private industry can do better than government, but there are also things government can do better than private industry.

I don't think that the government telling industry it can't pollute is socialism. I think it's common sense. I think laws defining interactions between boss and worker are not socialism. They are necessities. I believe in redistribution of wealth before the fact. In other words, pay your workers enough to live on and we will not have to tax you in order to provide them with food and housing.

#1 Obviously not much of a history student.
#2 Name something that the government does better than private industry, and show REAL evidence, not just something from Wikipedia.
#3 How can you be in favor of strong unions, and the government dictating what a company pays their employees, and laws defining interactions between boss and worker, at the same time. With one you don't need the other.
#4 If a company ONLY has to pay enough to live on, and the government takes care of food and housing, where is the incentive to do a better job, to try to get ahead, to make MORE money.

Do you even think, before you start typing this drivel. :ThmbUp:

BlueShoe
09-20-2012, 06:34 PM
Do you even think, before you start typing this drivel. :ThmbUp:
Well, like Tom said in post #26, "That means yes, huh?" Mosty's self incrimination is just more evidence that reinforces my long held belief that Liberalism is just another branch of the worldwide Communist movement, and that American leftists differ very little from Marxists in their shared political ideology, their often denial of this not withstanding.

mostpost
09-20-2012, 07:12 PM
#1 Obviously not much of a history student.
#2 Name something that the government does better than private industry, and show REAL evidence, not just something from Wikipedia.
#3 How can you be in favor of strong unions, and the government dictating what a company pays their employees, and laws defining interactions between boss and worker, at the same time. With one you don't need the other.
#4 If a company ONLY has to pay enough to live on, and the government takes care of food and housing, where is the incentive to do a better job, to try to get ahead, to make MORE money.

Do you even think, before you start typing this drivel. :ThmbUp:
#1. What part of the history did I get wrong? Are you trying to tell me The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were allies during the war. Maybe you did not understand that the statement which you bolded was made tongue in cheek.

Were you referring to the fact that the Nazis nationalized all of Germany's industries? I certainly hope not, because they did no such thing although a lot of people here seem to think so.

The Nazis protected private industry. One of their economic philosophies was
"Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social." The Nazi government encouraged companies to form cartels and monopolies. In his book, Big Business in the Third Reich, Arthur Schweitzer states:
“ Monopolistic price fixing became the rule in most industries, and cartels were no longer confined to the heavy or large-scale industries. [...] Cartels and quasi-cartels (whether of big business or small) set prices, engaged in limiting production, and agreed to divide markets and classify consumers in order to realize a monopoly profit.[39]

The Nazis banned trade unions and outlawed strikes. They employed slave labor. All of these actions benefited private industry. It is true that private industry had to first serve the state, but they were well rewarded for doing so and after they had satisfied that obligation they were able to make their profits in other areas. Workers on the other hand were not nearly as fortunate.

#2
Post Office
Social Security
Medicare.

The Post Office has been delivery mail to every address in the United States for over 220 years at very reasonable rates. For the last thirty plus years it has been doing so without taxpayer subsidies. I have discussed ad nauseum the reasons for the difficulties USPS finds itself in now. All I will say is USPS is being deliberately sabatoged by Republicans in Congress.

Social Security has been providing retirement and disability benefits for three Quarters of a Century. Left alone it will have funding problems in the future.
There is a simple and effective solution to those problems. Eliminate the cap on contributions.

Medicare spends a smaller % of its budget on overhead than private insurance companies.

Government is better than private industry at any project that extends over a long period of time or that effects the entire nation or that effects varying strata of society. The interstate highway system is one example of where only government could have developed the concept and seen it through to completion. Only government could have established a nationwide retirement system. Only government can repair our roads and replace our bridges.

NJ Stinks
09-20-2012, 09:28 PM
It doesn't look good for Romney, based on the Intrade and betting numbers. I'm completely blown away how Obama can get the vote of anyone other than hard core Dems.

That said, when the US economy goes into a deep recession and we are still struggling in 2015, will he still blame George Bush? Will he ever take ownership of the bad economy? Of course he won't.

Your blown away? Did you vote for GWB twice?

Be blown away. Who cares? :rolleyes:

bigmack
09-20-2012, 09:51 PM
Only government can repair our roads and replace our bridges.
Careful of the amount of ERRONEOUS material you throw around. It's piling up.

Actor
09-20-2012, 10:45 PM
WHAT HAS BARRACK OBAMA DONE TO EARN YOUR VOTE. LET US SEE HOW FAR THIS GOES.It's not about what Obama has done. It's about what the asshole wants to do. :bang: :bang:

Tom
09-21-2012, 10:06 AM
Originally Posted by mostpost
Government can only repair our roads and replace our bridges.


FTFY.......and btw, they haven't even done that very well, now have they?