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andymays
09-14-2012, 09:23 AM
This is a real long speech but the excerpt is about the Customer.
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http://www.racingfuture.com/content/speech-remember-david-willmot

Excerpt:

During the first month that I was CEO, I had a meeting with about eight or ten of our biggest gamblers. During our discussion, I used the word “fan,” and talked about our “fans.” And one of these guys looked at me and said, “Don’t insult me.” I said, “Well, what do you mean?” He said, “I am not a fan of anything that you or your rich friends do around here. And don’t call me a "patron" either, because I’m not a patron. Those are people who give money voluntarily, like for the arts. Philanthropically, I am not a patron. I am a gambler. I am your customer and I want to be treated with the respect that a paying customer deserves.”

Since that day, we have never used the terms fan or patron around our company. It is customer. Since that day, everything we have done to turn our business around, and to resurrect horse racing in the province of Ontario, has been customer driven.

One of the difficulties in this industry, and I say this as a horseman myself, is that there has been too much focus on the supply side. This is the side of the business that provides the product, the horses to the tracks, and includes breeders, trainers, and backstretch employees – and I spent years on the backstretch. But there is a demand-side of the business also. The customer, bettor, gambler – who provides the capital; those purses that enable the rest of it to make sense.

Over the years, the thinking in this industry – certainly among management of tracks across North America – has been driven by this supply side. Everything has been, “What can be done for the horsemen. How can we fix up the backstretch? Let’s do whatever the horsemen want. If they want more racing, then we should have more racing, even if that means smaller fields.”

But if you sit down with the gamblers, it is pretty simple what they want. They want field size, they want pool size, and they want low takeout. Frankly, they don’t care if a horse is by Mr. Prospector or Santa Claus. The truth of the matter is, racing is a gambling business 99.8 percent of the time and a sport the other point-two percent. Granted, it’s a sport for a lot of those people who supply the product, but for the industry to work, we have to take care of the customer. I think for decades we have not.

For the whole speech click on the link. http://www.racingfuture.com/content/speech-remember-david-willmot

ten2oneormore
09-14-2012, 10:07 AM
This


"Well, racing is still competition. It is not there to guarantee anybody a way of life. You have to be good at what you do,"

usedtolovetvg
09-14-2012, 10:47 AM
Spoken by someone who doesn't understand the psyche of the horseplayer vis a vis other other forms of gambling. He talks about what he has done and what has been accomplished not what the company intends to do. The slot player will NEVER become a horse player. This discussion has taken place on both sides of the border. Btw, changing the name from OJC to WEG was counterproductive.

VeryOldMan
09-14-2012, 12:10 PM
The speech is from 2001, by the way. How much has the sport adapted in the intervening 11 years?

Robert Goren
09-14-2012, 04:09 PM
Spoken by someone who doesn't understand the psyche of the horseplayer vis a vis other other forms of gambling. He talks about what he has done and what has been accomplished not what the company intends to do. The slot player will NEVER become a horse player. This discussion has taken place on both sides of the border. Btw, changing the name from OJC to WEG was counterproductive.You are right. A slot player will never be a horse player, but as anyone who lives near a race track where slots became available near by, many horseplayers will become slot players.

usedtolovetvg
09-14-2012, 08:59 PM
You are right. A slot player will never be a horse player, but as anyone who lives near a race track where slots became available near by, many horseplayers will become slot players.

:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

Stillriledup
09-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Las Vegas sports books don't charge admission or parking fees. By charging parking and admission, tracks are essentially saying this is a 'sporting event' and not just a random gambling game. Some tracks, like Santa Anita for example, charge parking AND admission even during times there is no live racing. Im not sure too many people want to pay admission and parking to look at a television set and do what they can do for free at home if they have an ADW and either a tv or a high speed internet connection.

"Racing" never has 'betting sales' either. If you go to any store whether its a grocery store or department store, there are sales, sometimes very good sales, 50% off is common nowadays. Every business has a large sale except horse racing. There's never a sale on 'bets' in the racing game, you won't pay your 9 dollars admission and 4 dollars parking at Santa Anita and walk in the door and see "sale on 3rd race exactas, 20% off, today only".

Now, i'm not sure why, maybe someone can tell me why the racetrack is the only business in America that never has a 'sale'.?

Horse trainers have WAY too much 'power' and bettors have way to LITTLE power. If a top trainer says "jump" these racing execs act like cats on hot tin rooves. If a bettor says "jump" its similar to a tree falling in the forest with nobody to hear it fall.

Unfortunately, none of us are going to live long enough to see the day where a track will ever respect the horseplayer and treat this game as a GAMBLING game and not a sporting event. The 'novelty' of horses running in a circle has long past most players, its really only about the price of the bet and since horse racing can't stand on its own, it needs the horseplayer to supplement the income of the jocks and trainers. The NFL bettor isnt supplementing the salaries of the football players and that's why the betting pools (illegally as well as legally) on NFL games dwarfs what's wagered in horse racing.

NFL bettors arent paying a 'vig' so that some hot shot horse trainer can drive a new Mercedes every few years as well as that jock who's able to purchase a 2nd condo on the Manhattan Beach strand.

sammy the sage
09-14-2012, 10:44 PM
Sounds like a politician to me...I'll believe IT..when I see ALL those so-called talking points IMPLIMENTED :lol:

much like a snow day in Fla. in July.......

davew
09-14-2012, 11:01 PM
I have to say that Woodbine sure runs alot of horses, and does a good show.

The new guy in California should look at what bettors want - Californias 5 and 6 horse fields might be good for owners/trainers when 5 places pay, but.....

Stillriledup
09-14-2012, 11:05 PM
I have to say that Woodbine sure runs alot of horses, and does a good show.

The new guy in California should look at what bettors want - Californias 5 and 6 horse fields might be good for owners/trainers when 5 places pay, but.....

There needs to be a sliding purse scale. The bigger the field, the higher the purse.

appistappis
09-15-2012, 02:42 AM
yeah wilmot, woodbine, low takeout.....stfu.

racingfan378
09-16-2012, 08:06 PM
In dog racing purses are paid based on the handle!

thespaah
09-19-2012, 12:28 AM
The speech is from 2001, by the way. How much has the sport adapted in the intervening 11 years?
Save for a few tracks, very little.

thespaah
09-19-2012, 12:33 AM
There needs to be a sliding purse scale. The bigger the field, the higher the purse.
NYRA did that at Saratoga last year. This year since the opening of the AQU casino, all purses are up.
I still agree with your idea though. It should apply to all races.

onefast99
09-19-2012, 07:15 AM
NYRA did that at Saratoga last year. This year since the opening of the AQU casino, all purses are up.
I still agree with your idea though. It should apply to all races.
NYRA has done that for many years at Saratoga a full field and the purse gets bumped up. One glaring mistake by NYRA was putting the rail out on the turf course and limiting the field to 10 and not 12.

cj
09-19-2012, 09:25 AM
NYRA has done that for many years at Saratoga a full field and the purse gets bumped up. One glaring mistake by NYRA was putting the rail out on the turf course and limiting the field to 10 and not 12.

Isn't there a reason rails are used other than to limit field size?