President Barack Obama Wins Re-election...

[NoDayJob]

If the stock market doesn't collapse between now and November!

[delayjf]

Live by the economy - die by the economy. the economy of 2008 won him the election.

[PaceAdvantage]

I must be seeing a different world than all the other Obama supporters out there.

And after watching the RNC tonight, and Romney's speech, I can't see why or how anyone with half a brain would vote for four more years of what we've had.

Are you better off now than you were $12 trillion dollars ago?

Serious, staggering question.

I don't understand how those books overseas have Obama as such a heavy favorite. The world doesn't respect Obama, but apparently the bookies do. Good luck with that.

[Uncle Salty]

Are you better off now than you were $12 trillion dollars ago?

Serious, staggering question.

I am better off than I was 4 years ago. Financially, career-wise, and personal life...much better off.

[PaceAdvantage]

I am better off than I was 4 years ago. Financially, career-wise, and personal life...much better off.Congratulations! You apparently, are one of the luckier ones.

[HandyKapper]

Congratulations! You apparently, are one of the luckier ones.

Or maybe the "only one" :D

[Tom]

Or Joe Biden. :eek:

[Native Texan III]

I must be seeing a different world than all the other Obama supporters out there.

And after watching the RNC tonight, and Romney's speech, I can't see why or how anyone with half a brain would vote for four more years of what we've had.

Are you better off now than you were $12 trillion dollars ago?

Serious, staggering question.

I don't understand how those books overseas have Obama as such a heavy favorite. The world doesn't respect Obama, but apparently the bookies do. Good luck with that.

The 92% who have maintained their jobs are better off than on the dole.
The USA 99% that are in work have been getting worse off for the last 30 years.
It's the ultra competitive World global economy that kills once highly paid jobs in USA.
Neither party have the power to create any shift in that. More chance of stopping the tide coming in.

[Tom]

More chance of stopping the tide coming in.

Obama said he could stop the rise of the oceans....wouldn't that help?

But, either party could reverse this - one will not try and the other has sent dozens of bills to the Senate to try - but not a one of them has been voted one.

See, when you have two houses of CONgress who cannot agree on anything, the idea was the President would be a man of honer, integrity, and vision, who would step up and lead them both to a solution to the problems of the nation. A leader.




Alright, you got me........:lol::lol::lol:

[BlueShoe]

I am better off than I was 4 years ago. Financially, career-wise, and personal life...much better off.
As you reside in Las Vegas, suggest pushing your lucky streak hard while it lasts, four more years of Obama, if it should happen, could produce very different results.

[Tape Reader]

I am better off than I was 4 years ago. Financially, career-wise, and personal life...much better off.

I know somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody who knows you.

[jdhanover]

The 92% who have maintained their jobs are better off than on the dole.
The USA 99% that are in work have been getting worse off for the last 30 years.
It's the ultra competitive World global economy that kills once highly paid jobs in USA.
Neither party have the power to create any shift in that. More chance of stopping the tide coming in.

Amen. Both parties can talk or blame all they want but the world has shrunk rapidly and cheap labor outside the US is not going to all of a sudden go away.
Policy changes arent going to change this dynamic. There are some things that can be done help but they are marginal, not game-changing.

Welcome to the new, harsh reality

[RaceBookJoe]

As you reside in Las Vegas, suggest pushing your lucky streak hard while it lasts, four more years of Obama, if it should happen, could produce very different results.

Agreed Blueshoe, i know a ton of people here in Vegas out of work, losing homes etc.

[ArlJim78]

I say it's nonsense that nothing can be done about our slide. Whether we do it or not is another thing. We still have more to offer a business in this country than anywhere in the world, if you take into account the totality of factors. What we are doing wrong is that we keep shooting ourselves in the foot, we let an out of control government strangle and suffocate the business climate with profuse regulations, tax burdens, croynism and favoritism. Yes we will continue to slide and our standard of living will diminish if we do nothing. That is the inevitable result of crony socialism, The Road to Serfdom. The only way we can maintain any semblance of the standards, benefits and salaries that we have enjoyed in the past is to reverse our current course. I'm not optimistic that we will.

[mountainman]

Amen. Both parties can talk or blame all they want but the world has shrunk rapidly and cheap labor outside the US is not going to all of a sudden go away.
Policy changes arent going to change this dynamic. There are some things that can be done help but they are marginal, not game-changing.

Welcome to the new, harsh reality

Awesome post.

[RaceBookJoe]

If the stock market doesn't collapse between now and November!

And dont forget that Bernanke's job is on the line, so he will hold off on QE3 until he has no other choice. If he is going down, it will be firing every bullet he has.

[Saratoga_Mike]

And dont forget that Bernanke's job is on the line, so he will hold off on QE3 until he has no other choice. If he is going down, it will be firing every bullet he has.

Romney's already stated he won't reappoint BB. Therefore, only a Obama victory would result in BB retaining his job, so why hold off? If you believe in the efficacy of QE (very debatable), you'd think he'd do it sooner rather than later in order to help the economy ASAP, or at least the stock mkt and the economy via the wealth effect.

[RaceBookJoe]

Romney's already stated he won't reappoint BB. Therefore, only a Obama victory would result in BB retaining his job, so why hold off? If you believe in the efficacy of QE (very debatable), you'd think he'd do it sooner rather than later in order to help the economy ASAP, or at least the stock mkt and the economy via the wealth effect.

If he does it too early, good chance of it failing by nov..and it will fail.

[BlueShoe]

Agreed Blueshoe, i know a ton of people here in Vegas out of work, losing homes etc.
Las Vegas is one of the most depressed cities in the nation when looking at the hard facts. Behind all the glitter and glamour the economic numbers and statistics of the area are indeed grim. Any person that has thrived in Clark County in the last four years is certainly an exception.

[RaceBookJoe]

Las Vegas is one of the most depressed cities in the nation when looking at the hard facts. Behind all the glitter and glamour the economic numbers and statistics of the area are indeed grim. Any person that has thrived in Clark County in the last four years is certainly an exception.

Yeah, if i had to be stuck with a conventional job i would probably be in the same boat as many others. Thankfully I work for myself, but not many either have that luxury or have taken the time to learn how to.

[Valuist]

I don't see the young people going out to vote this time like they did in 2008. They were the energized group, and Obama got their vote. Just don't see the enthusiasm in them now. I think most will stay at home.

Only energized group now is the Tea Party, and needless to say, Obama isn't getting their vote.

[Valuist]

I don't understand how those books overseas have Obama as such a heavy favorite. The world doesn't respect Obama, but apparently the bookies do. Good luck with that.

Reminds me of a book from that famed Communist/horseplayer, Len Ragozin, "The Odds Must be Crazy".

[Steve 'StatMan']

I don't see the young people going out to vote this time like they did in 2008. They were the energized group, and Obama got their vote. Just don't see the enthusiasm in them now. I think most will stay at home.

That cool black dude that they rocked the vote for 4 years ago is now the leader presiding over the economic malaze that has made most of their expensive college degrees worthless for the time being, and heavily in debt. The new kids coming along can see this happening and know they have a bleak future ahead. I would hate to be them having to decide to commit to college and big expenses, knowing there still aren't a lot of jobs yet More of same if Obama gets re-elected - the Dems Leaders keep pushing plans that realistic people looking at the economics know won't work, and they aren't going to take over the House of Reps this time, so nothing will significanly change if he does get re-elected.

[Uncle Salty]

Agreed Blueshoe, i know a ton of people here in Vegas out of work, losing homes etc.

Las Vegas is one of the most depressed cities in the nation when looking at the hard facts. Behind all the glitter and glamour the economic numbers and statistics of the area are indeed grim. Any person that has thrived in Clark County in the last four years is certainly an exception.

Anyone who is out of work and not thriving in Clark County has no one to blame but themselves. Las Vegas is one of the easiest cities to find employment in if you really want to work, have a good attitude, and present yourself even semi-professionally.

[newtothegame]

Anyone who is out of work and not thriving in Clark County has no one to blame but themselves. Las Vegas is one of the easiest cities to find employment in if you really want to work, have a good attitude, and present yourself even semi-professionally.
Hold the boat....really?? It's their own fault??? And her all theis time I have been hearing from the left how these unemployed have been oppressed and held down...not given the same opportunity as everyone else.......
You mean I have been lied too?????
:lol:

[Lefty]

unclesalty, you must be living in a different Las Vegas than I. At one time we had the highest unemployment in the nation and it's still way higher than the national average. We also have one of the highest foreclosure rates. You mean to tell me that all those formerly emplyed have suddenly decided not to work? I think you must be living in another Universe.

[Greyfox]

The Current Unemployment Rate is currently over 13% in Las Vegas.

If Uncle Salty is right, there must be a lot of people not wanting to work and allowing their houses to foreclose.

See:

http://www.google.ca/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=city:PA320050&fdim_y=seasonality:U&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+rates+las+vegas+nv

[Uncle Salty]

If Uncle Salty is right, there must be a lot of people not wanting to work and allowing their houses to foreclose.

Yes, that is exactly it.

[Uncle Salty]

You mean to tell me that all those formerly emplyed have suddenly decided not to work?

No, but I think a great many of the formerly emplyed have decided not to look for another job immediately after losing or being laid off from the original one.

I think you must be living in another Universe.

I often think that myself.

[JustRalph]

with 2 years of unemployment...........I am sure many don't look for work

[Striker]

with 2 years of unemployment...........I am sure many don't look for work
That's been phased out since June, as only 2 or 3 states offer the 99 weeks.

[Lefty]

salty, there are many hardworking people in Vegas that have lost their jobs since Obama has been in office. My wife was fortunate enough to keep her job but it's touch and go every week as to whether she will get in a full shift. Insurance has went up and her place of work stopped putting in matching funds for 401k's a long time ago.
You yourself may be better off but it's in spite of Obama, not because of Obama. Many thousands have suffered here because of this president's policies.

[JustRalph]

That's been phased out since June, as only 2 or 3 states offer the 99 weeks.

:ThmbUp:

[Uncle Salty]

salty, there are many hardworking people in Vegas that have lost their jobs since Obama has been in office.

Holy Post hoc ergo propter hoc Batman! There were just as many hardworking people losing their jobs when his predecessor was in office.

What does this have to do with anything?!? Who cares who's in office. You lose your job, go get another one! There are jobs all over in Vegas! Unless you're a convicted felon or have tattoos all over your face or can't talk without cussing every other word, you will find work here.

[Lefty]

salty, that's patently untrue. Unemployment was 7.5 pct when obummer took office. It was over 9% for 40 months after he took office. If there are jobs all over Vegas why is our unemployment rate so high? And don't tell me it's because people don't want to work. Fact is, they were working before obummer took office.

[newtothegame]

Yeah, Salty apparently is not telling the truth.....

This graph from the labor statistics shows something different....

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST320000&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=nevada+unemployment

[newtothegame]

Not too worry salty, at least you are better now then four years ago.....

"Food-stamp (http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/34SNAPmonthly.htm) use reached a record 46.7 million people in June, the government said, as Democrats prepare to nominate President Barack Obama (http://topics.bloomberg.com/barack-obama/) for a second term with the economy as a chief issue in the campaign."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-04/food-stamp-use-climbed-to-record-46-7-million-in-june-u-s-says.html

[Lefty]

Salty says there are plenty of jobs. Every casino has downsized. Now jobs in this town are primarily casino and construction jobs. And there are hordes of abandoned construction projects. So he must be talking about fast food jobs. They are fine for entry level, but hardly pay well enough for people with families...