Pokerstars Rulz!

[DigitalDownsJoe]

Love that Pokerstars, the class of online poker, stepped it up this week and made good with DOJ. They now own Full Tilt, and plan on paying all the players the money owed. WTG Pokerstars!!I will always give you my online business. You are a class act!

[thaskalos]

PokerStars showed their class with their timely distribution of their customers' money last year.

They stayed in constant contact with their customers...and delivered the money promptly...as soon as they were allowed to do so.

That's way more than we can say for that scumbag Howard Lederer.

How he still shows his face in Vegas I'll never know...

[DigitalDownsJoe]

I played on both sites, and maybe mu position is biased because i had much more success on Stars, but the customer service was ALWAYS WAY BETTER. Full Tilt's was a disgrace, and I really felt lucky that I pulled my money off Tilt and dedicated my play on Stars. I did this about 2 months before Black Friday. I got all my money from stars soon after. I enjoyed the interface and some of the good ideas Tilt had like rush poker, and daily doubles(One time I double final tabled the double for like 13k) Now that stars owns tilt, i would def consider playing there. I hope they get this up and running soon!

[thaskalos]

Is there anyone out there who is still involved in online poker?

If so, what sites do you play at...and do you have any problems getting paid on time?

[proximity]

Is there anyone out there who is still involved in online poker?

If so, what sites do you play at...and do you have any problems getting paid on time?

i have some money in bovada, but it isn't a lot and i've never actually tried to get paid. i'm playing so little online though that i was actually thinking of clearing out my account. if i do and have any trouble i'll let you know.

i must admit though that i'm starting to get more and more into brick and mortar, and even missed some racing last week because of this. i'm having some success but this past week the sun was up every time i left the casino (i'll usually start playing at night after racing) and this does worry me somewhat.

[DigitalDownsJoe]

I play on Hero Poker...Takes a bit of time to get your check, but you get it... The software isn't bad, it's on the carbon network. Usually like 10k playing at a time.

[Zippy Chippy]

Is there anyone out there who is still involved in online poker?

If so, what sites do you play at...and do you have any problems getting paid on time?

Before black Friday I was very involved in poker. Had a $500-600 daily schedule of events I played. Played the nightly $162 stars, tilt, all the $50s, $10 and $20 rebuys. Stars was honestly incredible, I always kept my payouts at $2500 per day ( you can request higher ) . I won the $162 (415 pm one) for 17k, and a week later 2nd in the 930 $50 for 13k. So for about a 2.5 week stretch every morning I'd log on and cashout $2500. It was like clockwork. Id get my tracking # and follow the package. Monday morning it left Singapore, Tues Hong Kong, weds Cincinnati, and by weds afternoon the DHL guy was at my door. Full Tilt on the other hand was a disaster. 3-4 weeks. God I just got depressed looking up all my casheson the pokerdb.com but my life has gotten dramatically better since black Friday. Too many ups and downs in poker, just like any gambling. I used to spend my entire day at work going over all my hand histories and discussing hands/strategies with other online pros.

[Zippy Chippy]

Is there anyone out there who is still involved in online poker?

If so, what sites do you play at...and do you have any problems getting paid on time?

A lot of people that I still talk to play on Lock Poker. It's allowed in the US but I wouldn't trust anything. Unfortunately I am one of the unlucky ones that has $ on tilt. I was lucky as hell stars paid right out as I had a lot in there. I know on Lock you have to get verified which seems like a hassle. You could never ever have better customer service than pokerstars. They were incredible. The support would email you back in minutes. If you wanted to chop a tourney you could email support and within 2-3 minutes a guy would come into your tourney and pause the game and make the deal. I emailed support that we were having a benefit for a poker player that died and they sent me like 20 t shirts, jackets, and stuff to give away at a raffle. Tilt hou are lucky if you get an email back (other than the automated message saying that they got your message)

[DigitalDownsJoe]

Yea Tilt was a joke, which was sad, cuz the idea of knocking out pros and getting your entry back, rush poker, and juicy cash games was really cool. Loved the cutting edge software. But the tourns and support at stars was leaps and bounds above. I once got my account froze on tilt, because i was "associated" with a player who got caught multi accounting a tourn. The funny thing was my association with him was I transferred him a few bucks one time. They did pay me the money in my account, but they froze my account and said I couldnt play there until this guy payed back the money he won in some tourn. Thank god it happened a month before black friday...I got my check from them a week or two before it happened. I cant wait for stars to come back!

[Rise Over Run]

Has anyone gotten their money back on their Full Tilt account? I think I had about $145 on there when Black Friday hit. Never a serious player, it was basically for entertainment playing in $5-$10 SNGs with the occasional $10 tourney.

[thaskalos]

Has anyone gotten their money back on their Full Tilt account? I think I had about $145 on there when Black Friday hit. Never a serious player, it was basically for entertainment playing in $5-$10 SNGs with the occasional $10 tourney.
I had a sizable amount there...and I haven't seen a cent yet.

And from what I hear, the foreign players will get paid first.

The USA-based players will have to get their money by way of the Dept. Of Justice.

[raybo]

I used to play on Full Tilt occasionally, mostly free rolls but a small buy-in cash game sometimes. When the gov shut everything down I all but quit playing poker online. I have a Poker Stars account and play the free chips thing rarely, mostly SNGs.

I was unaware that US citizens could play real money poker anywhere online.

[Zippy Chippy]

Has anyone gotten their money back on their Full Tilt account? I think I had about $145 on there when Black Friday hit. Never a serious player, it was basically for entertainment playing in $5-$10 SNGs with the occasional $10 tourney.

I'm guessing in the next 3-4 months

[horses4courses]

How do you get around this?

http://www.pokerstars.com/images/fbi.png

[raybo]

How do you get around this?

http://www.pokerstars.com/images/fbi.png

"Where there's a will there's a way", I suppose, but this is the first I've heard of any sites that accept "real money" US players.

[Zippy Chippy]

How do you get around this?

http://www.pokerstars.com/images/fbi.png

Not sure if this is a joke, but 4/15/21011 (black Friday) online poker in the US was shut down. If you live in us u cannot play for real money.

[horses4courses]

Not sure if this is a joke, but 4/15/21011 (black Friday) online poker in the US was shut down. If you live in us u cannot play for real money.

Legally.

[Zippy Chippy]

Legally.

Correct. I know people have Canadian addresses and still play here. I personally would never mess with that. With my luck id bink the Sunday million for 250k and they'd dq me.

[horses4courses]

I hear ya.

I miss playing online poker, too.
Things may be pointing towards change soon, though.

Nevada Gaming Control has approved a site for South Point, which should be running within months.
The way should be cleared for other states to okay their residents to play there. Won't be long before other sites are on board, too.

A NY federal judge ruled the other day that poker is more a game of skill than gambling. If this ruling stands, that could open the floodgates.

Odds are, we are going to see another online poker boom.

[Pace Cap'n]

It is not illegal to play poker online in the USA.

What's not legal is transferring funds back and forth using any form of bank transactions, or credit/debit cards. That's why most of the sites bailed out.

Workarounds exist. Friends in Canada, spoofing an IP, couriers, etc.

[thaskalos]

It is not illegal to play poker online in the USA.

What's not legal is transferring funds back and forth using any form of bank transactions, or credit/debit cards. That's why most of the sites bailed out.

Workarounds exist. Friends in Canada, spoofing an IP, couriers, etc.

Actually, this is not as certain now as it once was...

A few states in this country have indeed instituted laws which make online poker an unlawful activity for citizens to participate in.

Even the poker sites which except USA players today advise these players to check their state's gambling laws first...

[Rise Over Run]

I got this e-mail from Full Tilt today:



As a player on Full Tilt Poker, you may be aware of the recent settlement reached with the U.S. Department of Justice (the "DOJ").

Full Tilt Poker will not offer real money online poker in the U.S. until it is permissible to do so under relevant law.

In relation to your account balance, you will have the opportunity to file petition with the DOJ through a remission process which will be administrated by the DOJ.

In light of the above, only play chip games will be available to Full Tilt Poker players in the U.S. following re-launch, in the first week of November, 2012. Your Full Tilt Points balance will remain intact in your account.

Please note that we are unable to answer queries in relation to your funds - all such questions should be directed to the DOJ in accordance with the procedure to be defined by them.

Please retain this email for your records.

[davew]

Howard Lederer is not off the hook yet. All the full tilt poker pro owners could be in for jail time for money laundering (receiving money from the proceeds of an illegal activity). They have already seized bank accounts, real estate... the DOJ guys are working for the government so no real hurry (why do something in 3 months when you can take 3 years?)