DOJ Website Change

[cj's dad]

The DOJ has changed it's logo from one which had a red, white, and blue motif to one which is stark black and contains a quote from a known socialist.

This quote "The common law is the will of mankind, issuing from the life of the people." is from one C Wilfred Jenks, a former global labor organizer and PLO sympathizer.



Snip> "It was Jenks's efforts that helped make the ILO a tool of the socialist and communist movement," says one of the DOJ lawyers. "We used to joke about how fitting it was that this was Janet Reno's favorite quote to use in speeches, and now the Obama folks think it encapsulates out department's mission." <Snip

Full article: http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/with-liberty-and-global-justice

DOJ website: http://www.justice.gov/ (http://www.justice.gov/)

[BlueShoe]

The DOJ has changed it's logo from one which had a red, white, and blue motif to one which is stark black and contains a quote from a known socialist.

This quote "The common law is the will of mankind, issuing from the life of the people." is from one C Wilfred Jenks, a former global labor organizer and PLO sympathizer.









Snip> "It was Jenks's efforts that helped make the ILO a tool of the socialist and communist movement," says one of the DOJ lawyers. "We used to joke about how fitting it was that this was Janet Reno's favorite quote to use in speeches, and now the Obama folks think it encapsulates out department's mission." <Snip

Full article: http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/with-liberty-and-global-justic
Bad link, fixed it in the quote. While this happened two years ago, it certainly remains relevant today. When we conservatives express concern about the subtle creeping encroachment of Marxism our clueless liberals scoff and snicker about so called right wing paranoia. Am sure that Mosty or one of the other lefties will be along soon to assure us that everything is still just fine.

[Saratoga_Mike]

1) The quote is engraved on the Dept of Justice building and has been since 1935.

2) While the quote is often attributed to the person in the article, it is not clear that he's the actual original source.

[cj's dad]

1) The quote is engraved on the Dept of Justice building and has been since 1935.

2) While the quote is often attributed to the person in the article, it is not clear that he's the actual original source.

So, you have no problem with the red, white and blue colors of the USA being removed. What the hell is wrong with you libs.

[BlueShoe]

Am sure that Mosty or one of the other lefties will be along soon to assure us that everything is still just fine.
Only took 7 minutes,1 hour 10 from the OP. :D

[FantasticDan]

So, you have no problem with the red, white and blue colors of the USA being removed. What the hell is wrong with you libs.You're the dullard posting two year old bullshit spam mails, and you're asking what's wrong with libs? :lol: :bang:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/14/chain-email/chain-e-mail-claims-quote-top-redesigned-departmen/

[Saratoga_Mike]

So, you have no problem with the red, white and blue colors of the USA being removed. What the hell is wrong with you libs.

I'm a liberal b/c of that post? At times you really need to get a clue. For your information, I wrote-in Chuck Hagel for prez in 2008. Yeah I know he's a real liberal --served in Vietnam with his brother, made millions starting his own biz and consistently supported restrained spending and low taxes while in the Senate. This fall I will be voting for Mitt Romney.

Where did I address the removal of the red, white and blue on the website? I will now. I probably would have kept the colors, but I don't think removing them makes Obama or Holder haters of the country. I just think they're both clueless, kind of like your post to me. Do you see the difference between the colors on a website and say the American flag??? When they decide to change the colors of the flag, let me know, ok?

[cj's dad]

You're the dullard posting two year old bullshit spam mails, and you're asking what's wrong with libs? :lol: :bang:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/14/chain-email/chain-e-mail-claims-quote-top-redesigned-departmen/

So, because I just became aware of this I'm a "dullard" ?

What do you think I do, scan the web all day for negative Obama stories ?

Typical of a lib. When you have nothing, which in your case is often, you resort to name calling.

[Saratoga_Mike]

So, because I just became aware of this I'm a "dullard" ?

What do you think I do, scan the web all day for negative Obama stories ?

Typical of a lib. When you have nothing, which in your case is often, you resort to name calling.

I'd vote yes on this one, but you didn't ask me.

[cj's dad]

I'd vote yes on this one, but you didn't ask me.

FYI, I work from 7-3 M-F. I am in the field making rounds about 5-6 hours a day, taking ongoing photos of work in progress and submitting reports to the customer. I drop in and out of PA, as time permits, some days more than others.

[FantasticDan]

So, because I just became aware of this I'm a "dullard" ?
Sorry, having a bit of a rough day. You're right, it was uncalled for. :ThmbDown:

[Saratoga_Mike]

FYI, I work from 7-3 M-F. I am in the field making rounds about 5-6 hours a day, taking ongoing photos of work in progress and submitting reports to the customer. I drop in and out of PA, as time permits, some days more than others.

I'm sure you work hard; I wouldn't question that. But just how did you stumble upon an article from 2 yrs ago? Someone send you a link or something?

[mostpost]

So, because I just became aware of this I'm a "dullard" ?

What do you think I do, scan the web all day for negative Obama stories ?

Typical of a lib. When you have nothing, which in your case is often, you resort to name calling.
F'Dan means you are a dullard because you post two year old stories without checking them out first. Not that I would say you are a dullard, just that you are wrong.

The American Spectator story said that the Justice Department changed its homepage and replaced the red, white and blue motif with black. It also added the quote, "The common law is the will of mankind, issuing from the life of the people."
So far true on the facts, it's when you get to the interpretation that things get messy. The Spectator says changing the red white and blue to black indicates a socialist agenda even though many cabinet departments do not have red, or white, or blue on their homepage. And I am not sure how black symbolizes Socialism. :confused:

Then objection is made to the quote appearing on the homepage because it was made by J. Wilfred Jenks, whom the Spectator perceives to be a Socialist or maybe a Communist.

Politifact characterizes this statement as "Pants On Fire." The Library of Congress (according to Poitifact) says that the quote can be traced to Hartley Burr Alexander, 1873-1939 - poet, philosopher, scholar, and architectural iconographer.
The chief sculptor of the U.S. Department of Justice building (1932-1934), C. Paul Hennewein, retained Dr. Alexander, then chairman of the philosophy department at the University of Nebraska, to assist with a unifying theme for the sculpture and inscriptions for the new building.

Dr. Alexander’s correspondence and photographs are archived in the Hartley Burr Alexander Projects Collection at Scripps College in Claremont, California, where he was invited to chair a professorship in philosophy.

I think that Dr. Alexander was responsible for the original placement of the common law quote on the Justice Department building. I do not think he was the author of the quote. The Spectator states that some (unnamed) attorneys attribute the quote to Blackstone and some (unnamed) attorneys attribute if to Jenks. The Spectator then arbitrarily decides it is Jenks, because that is convenient to their agenda.

Here is the problem. The Justice Department building was completed in 1935. Dr. Alexander worked with the buildings sculptor on choosing the quotations for the buildings exterior between 1932 and 1934. E. Wilfred Jenks was born in 1909. In 1932 he was a year out of college and working in Geneva. Why would anyone put anything he said on any building?

Given that Sir William Blackstone wrote "Commentaries On The Laws Of England" it is much more likely that he is the author of the quote in question. But maybe he was a Communist too. :rolleyes:

[bigmack]

Here is the problem. The Justice Department building was completed in 1935. Dr. Alexander worked with the buildings sculptor on choosing the quotations for the buildings exterior between 1932 and 1934. E. Wilfred Jenks was born in 1909. In 1932 he was a year out of college and working in Geneva. Why would anyone put anything he said on any building?

Given that Sir William Blackstone wrote "Commentaries On The Laws Of England" it is much more likely that he is the author of the quote in question. But maybe he was a Communist too.
Lookie you, nose to the sand in such minutia on this caper. And I mean MINUTIA. "1932 he was a year out of college and working in Geneva." That's some kinda detailed homework you put into this non-issue.

Amazing, the lengths you go to dig into certain issues and those you choose to play dumb. You are playing dumb, right? :rolleyes:

[mostpost]

Lookie you, nose to the sand in such minutia on this caper. And I mean MINUTIA. "1932 he was a year out of college and working in Geneva." That's some kinda detailed homework you put into this non-issue.

Amazing, the lengths you go to dig into certain issues and those you choose to play dumb. You are playing dumb, right? :rolleyes:
It doesn't seem to be a non issue to you cons. It took me less than thirty seconds to find the info on Jenks birthdate and college years. The Spectator wrote a whole column on this issue so that the uniformed-that's you- could post on PA.

When I play dumb, you will know it. It will be time you can respond in kind.

[bigmack]

It doesn't seem to be a non issue to you cons. It took me less than thirty seconds to find the info on Jenks birthdate and college years. The Spectator wrote a whole column on this issue so that the uniformed-that's you- could post on PA.

When I play dumb, you will know it. It will be time you can respond in kind.
I just stated my position of it being a non-issue and the first thing you type is "me con" and "me uninformed" ?

No need to raise a flag when you're playing dumb, it appears to come naturally .

Keep up the "good work."

[mostpost]

"The common law is the will of mankind, issuing from the life of the people."
That is the quote at issue. Is the objection because of the quote or is because of the supposed author? If someone says something which encapsulates truth why would his political leanings matter? If Josef Stalin said "I love my mother" would you consider Mother's Day to be a communist conspiracy? I think you would. :rolleyes:

On what basis would you object to that quotation? Anyone?

[Saratoga_Mike]

That is the quote at issue. Is the objection because of the quote or is because of the supposed author? If someone says something which encapsulates truth why would his political leanings matter? If Josef Stalin said "I love my mother" would you consider Mother's Day to be a communist conspiracy? I think you would. :rolleyes:

On what basis would you object to that quotation? Anyone?

Nice analogy Most.

[lamboguy]

both this website and the website from the us mint both had backgrounds of red white and blue. the us mint changed to the dark colored background during the bush years. why it took this long to change the one from the department of justice so long to change is probably that they are to busy in that department chasing down THE AL-QAEDA

[boxcar]

When I play dumb, you will know it. It will be time you can respond in kind.

You did mean to say when you play even dumber, right? :D

Boxcar

[BlueShoe]

If Josef Stalin said "I love my mother" would you consider Mother's Day to be a communist conspiracy?
Not quite, but when Earth Day was chosen to be observed on Lenin's birthday, and illegal aliens pick May Day to hold their marches and riots, we DO see the communist connection, these things do not happen by coincidence.

[Tom]

I always thought DOJ stood for Dept of Jerks.
My bad.

Actually, I feel better without that bunch of racist obamabots flying my colors.
Black is more fitting for that group of misfits.

[TJDave]

when Earth Day was chosen to be observed on Lenin's birthday...these things do not happen by coincidence.

I think you're mistaken. April 22 was chosen because it's Marilyn Chambers' birthday. It's one of my favorite holidays.

[mostpost]

I think you're mistaken. April 22 was chosen because it's Marilyn Chambers' birthday. It's one of my favorite holidays.
I was just coming here to say that very thing. Your theory is as good as blue shoe's, maybe better.

[mostpost]

I always thought DOJ stood for Dept of Jerks.
My bad.

Actually, I feel better without that bunch of racist obamabots flying my colors.
Black is more fitting for that group of misfits.
You figured it out. :rolleyes: Holder changed the color of the website to black because he is black. The racist pig!!! :eek:

[TJDave]

I was just coming here to say that very thing. Your theory is as good as blue shoe's, maybe better.

Not if you do it right.

[bigmack]

You figured it out. :rolleyes: Holder changed the color of the website to black because he is black.
You seem like a bright guy ( :liar: ) - What % does a person become black?

Jesse Jackson calls BO not black enough. If he's half white and half black, could people call him white? Or do we categorize people by dominant skin color?

[PaceAdvantage]

Jesse Jackson calls BO not black enough.Did Jesse start this trend? Why just the other day, Morgan Freeman said the same thing:

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/06/morgan-freeman-obamas-not-our-first-black-president/

But then again, just the other day, ol' Morgan also gave $1M to an Obama SUPER-PAC. Funny, MSNBC doesn't mention the dichotomy in their story:

http://leanforward.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/19/12836658-morgan-freeman-infuses-pro-obama-super-pac-with-1-million-donation?lite

Those rich celebs...they could have done so much better with that kind of scratch...buy starving kids some food...build a homeless shelter somewhere...put some people to work...you know, useful stuff.

[cj's dad]

I'm sure you work hard; I wouldn't question that. But just how did you stumble upon an article from 2 yrs ago? Someone send you a link or something?

It was an e-mail from a reliable retired friend. I assumed it was recent as he does not normally send 2 year old stories.

Also, I o not remember any posts regarding this topic, so once again, I assumed it was recent.

[Actor]

Changing it to black and white saves money on paint. :lol:

[fast4522]

I see what is going on this way . . . . .

http://returnofcommunism.com/genocide/communism-and-abortion

[mostpost]

I see what is going on this way . . . . .

http://returnofcommunism.com/genocide/communism-and-abortion

My theory continues to hold up. My theory is no matter how bizarre an idea is, no matter how far removed it is from reality, there will be someone who believes in it. Some nutcase will latch onto it and post it on some website.

Here we have this website about communism and genocide and abortion. Communism is returning and is going to enslave us all. At one time half the world was communist and that system failed spectacularly. Now there are two countries that are communist and those are two of the poorest most backward countries on the planet.

Yet we have the paranoid among us warning of a vast resurgence. And what do they offer as proof? The fact that Barack Obama and Margaret Sanger are involved in a vast conspiracy to kill all black people. Margaret Sanger who died in 1956 and Barack Obama who was born in 1961 have somehow gotten together in 2012 and are aborting black babies at an unprecedented rate.

First of all, Margaret Sanger was never in favor of abortion. She was in favor of birth control and she was in favor of it being available to all women including black women. Not because she thought black women should not give birth, but because she felt they should be able to choose the time and number of those births.

Secondly, the number of abortions in this country has steadily gone down since the 1980's. Subtlety and shades of meaning are not really strong suits among conservatives, but one can be in favor of the legality of abortions yet opposed to the abortions themselves. One can hope that few or no abortions are performed yet recognize that the choice involves only the woman herself.

The communists are not going to be taking over the world; the boogie man is not going to get you in your sleep. Just put on your tin foil hat, go down in your bomb shelter and relax. :rolleyes:

[fast4522]

Make no mistake, your the boogie man trying to see us a bag of shit. Ten years from now if I need a hip or knee replacement I do not want to face some quack that is only offering me a pill and a call back in the morning. Death panels via euthanasia for the elderly are just around the corner to save the government money. Abortion out of the womb with scissors is not around the corner its here today. We as a Nation are completely broke and if we continue down the road we are currently on the majority of our citizenship will feel ugly about it. This is the problem you face in the fall in November, and hopefully we can shit all over your party by rejecting everything you stand for and once again look for change and not the mistake made in the last Presidential election.

[TJDave]

I see what is going on this way . . . . .

http://returnofcommunism.com/genocide/communism-and-abortion

The idea that those who support abortion are communists is absurd.

1. I hate communists.

2. I favor abortion.

3. I support aborting all fetuses of communists.

[Tom]

There is a method of birth control that is 100% effective and 100% free.
Just because it takes some responsibility by the users is not reason for me to be paying for any of it.

Birth control is a 100% elective procedure.
It should not be a part of any insurances, as it is not necessary.

The upside of abortion is that lib love and use it so much. Any time you prevent a lib, it is a good thing.

[TJDave]

Just because it takes some responsibility by the users is not reason for me to be paying for any of it.


Because they don't 'take responsibility' is precisely why you pay. It's why we ALL pay.

The question is not, "To pay or not pay" ...

It's how much.

[Actor]

Birth control is a 100% elective procedure.Not when the moon is full. :lol:

[PaceAdvantage]

Death panels via euthanasia for the elderly are just around the corner to save the government money.Speaking of saving the government money...has anyone noticed how many formerly "required" or "needed" preventative tests have now been deemed "unnecessary" by government health agencies?

I have.

Let's see.

Recently the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force announced its recommendation against routine PSA screening for men. The panel said recommended screening is not necessary. http://www.theacorn.com/news/2012-07-12/Health_(and)_Wellness/Debate_on_preventive_screening_results_in_new_legi .html

Prostate specific antigen blood tests to detect prostate cancer? No longer recommended by the United States Preventive Services Task Force.

Routine EKGs? No use.

Yearly Pap smears? Nope. (Every three years.) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/sunday-review/lets-not-get-physicals.html?pagewanted=all

Federal panel recommends reducing number of mammograms - Women in their 40s should stop routinely having annual mammograms and older women should cut back to one scheduled exam every other year, an influential federal task force has concluded, challenging the use of one of the most common medical tests. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/16/AR2009111602822.html

Hmmmm....I wonder why this sudden change of heart? Could it be they're trying to lessen the blow to the system when Obama's health care initiative goes into effect? Probably just a coincidence... :rolleyes:

[Tom]

Denocrats - dumbing down health care.
This will ake hcap happy - we soon will be 5th rate in HC, thanks to the dems.

btw, is there a cure for being a democrat?
Can we vaccinate babies with intelligence so they won't become dems?

[fast4522]

By controlling health care they have figured out two things :

A: See the picture.
B: Have a good name for the illegal or felon to vote under.