Oh no: more pesky tree ring data

[DJofSD]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2171973/Tree-ring-study-proves-climate-WARMER-Roman-Medieval-times-modern-industrial-age.html

Let the debate begin.

[FantasticDan]

Begin? :rolleyes: :bang:

[whiptastic]

Here (http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1589.html) is the originating study for reference.

[Native Texan III]

There is no evidence wine grapes were grown by the Britains in any part of England during Roman Occupation. There is plenty of evidence that wine was imported by ship in ampoules, made in the Mediterranean.

Today there are many award winning wine makers in Southern England.


It is said that Julius Caesar brought the vine to England. Nice though that story is, some scholars think it apocryphal - wine was certainly brought to Britain by the Romans, but it is less certain whether the vine was grown here, or if it was, whether it was in sufficent quantity to satisfy the local requirement for wine or just as an ornament to remind Romans of home and wealthy Romano-Britons of the source of their civilisation and prosperity. http://www.english-wine.com/images/ewlogotn.gif (http://www.english-wine.com/index.html)


Domesday & Middle Ages




It is more certain that by the time of the Norman Conquest, vines were grown, and wine made, in a substantial number of monastic institutions in England, especially, southern England. The legacy of street names (such as Vine street or the Vineyards) in London and provincial towns and cities - suggests that vines and vineyards were certainly no great rarities.

http://www.english-wine.com/images/history2.JPG At the time of the compilation of the Domesday Survey in the late eleventh century, vineyards were recorded in 46 places in southern England, from East Anglia through to modern-day Somerset. By the time King Henry VIIIth ascended the throne there were 139 sizeable vineyards in England and Wales - 11 of them owned by the Crown, 67 by noble families and 52 by the church.

[Tom]

We were once a molten ball of fire, and once a giant ice cube.
Wherever we are now is an improvement.