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BIG49010
07-04-2012, 10:02 PM
Fyi with the heat AP moved their post time to 5:00 PM

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/news/archives/post-time-thursday-july-5-moved-500-pm

cj
07-04-2012, 10:55 PM
Fyi with the heat AP moved their post time to 5:00 PM

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/news/archives/post-time-thursday-july-5-moved-500-pm

How will anyone know what time it is at Arlington with the current timer in place?

sammy the sage
07-04-2012, 10:57 PM
How will anyone know what time it is at Arlington with the current timer in place?

:lol: :D

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94680

Striker
07-04-2012, 11:50 PM
They need to do the same on Friday even though that would just move the start time back 2 hours. Friday is supposed to be the hottest(only by a little bit) day of this week.

Valuist
07-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if they cancel Thursday. Only reason they ran today was the crowd they get for the fireworks show is large.

I've been in Las Vegas when its been 115 and today at 102 w/humidity felt worse.

Wagergirl
07-05-2012, 12:43 PM
Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/racetracks/80/penn-national-race-course) will move its first race post time from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Friday, July 6, and Saturday, July 7, in an effort to minimize the effects of the heat wave that is dominating the mid-Atlantic region.

rastajenk
07-05-2012, 12:54 PM
Seems to me if you want to beat the heat, you'd move the post time up a couple hours to an a.m. start, not back into the hottest part of the day.

Wagergirl
07-05-2012, 01:01 PM
maybe by moving it later they are trying to not compete with the tracks that run in the morning or earlier in the day (I am on the west coast.. so it's still morning here).

Canarsie
07-05-2012, 01:06 PM
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/71042/delaware-park-cancels-live-racing-for-july-7

cj
07-05-2012, 01:06 PM
maybe by moving it later they are trying to not compete with the tracks that run in the morning or earlier in the day (I am on the west coast.. so it's still morning here).

The article clearly states the move is due to heat.

jerry-g
07-05-2012, 01:14 PM
I moved to Florida so I could get some heat. However, this year up North
it seems to me that the heat is really bad. Did a car not go airborne
due to the pavement buckling and have some people not dropped
dead due to the heat? It just seems like a very unusual weather
phenomenon is taking place and everyone should take heed. I think
it is a safety issue and not a joke.

Wagergirl
07-05-2012, 01:24 PM
The article clearly states the move is due to heat.

yes I know that. Rastajenk asked why they didn't move it to earlier in the day as opposed to later in the day. My suggestions was so they didn't have to compete with other tracks. Although depending on how much notice, it's probably easier to move to a later time than an earlier time. The logistics of notifying everyone that the races will be starting early must be a nightmare.

cj
07-05-2012, 01:29 PM
yes I know that. Rastajenk asked why they didn't move it to earlier in the day as opposed to later in the day. My suggestions was so they didn't have to compete with other tracks. Although depending on how much notice, it's probably easier to move to a later time than an earlier time. The logistics of notifying everyone that the races will be starting early must be a nightmare.

Sorry, I missed that. I agree, an earlier post would be a disaster.

rastajenk
07-05-2012, 01:57 PM
Well of course it would hurt the handle and piss off handicappers (but what doesn't?), and maybe some ship-ins would have to scratch, if they hadn't already; but it wouldn't be that difficult to start two hours earlier, pay out the purses to keep the local economy going, and just put it in the books as better than a lost day, and move on. It might cause our Mr Goren to blow a fuse trying to rationalize it all, but it could be done. :D

Tom
07-05-2012, 02:23 PM
They used to start at 7:30.....when it was really night racing.
People who work just don't get home in time for a lot these so called night tracks. I used top play Penn every single night. Haven't played it all in several years now.

cj
07-05-2012, 03:26 PM
So far we have:

AP, 7-5, post time 5:00
Pen, 7-6 and 7-7, post time 7:00
Del, 7-7, Canx

therussmeister
07-05-2012, 05:13 PM
To me moving to night racing isn't much of a bargain. Often, as soon as the sun goes down the humidity goes up. Makes it very difficult to cool down after physical activity.

Tom
07-05-2012, 09:05 PM
This is an affront to Goren!!!!

thespaah
07-05-2012, 09:55 PM
How will anyone know what time it is at Arlington with the current timer in place?
That's flippin HILARIOUS... :lol: :1: !!!!!!

thespaah
07-05-2012, 11:02 PM
I moved to Florida so I could get some heat. However, this year up North
it seems to me that the heat is really bad. Did a car not go airborne
due to the pavement buckling and have some people not dropped
dead due to the heat? It just seems like a very unusual weather
phenomenon is taking place and everyone should take heed. I think
it is a safety issue and not a joke.
Yep..In Wisconsin.
BTW, today was the first round of the US Women's Open Golf Tourney.
Today it was over 100 degrees there for 5 hours. The tourney site is about 100 miles north of Chicago.
Checked the daily climate records for the East Coast. Basically every station south of Albany, NY was well above normal temp today. JFK Airport was 95.
Wilmington, DE hit 98....Same nonsense for the Balto/Wash area.

affirmedny
07-06-2012, 02:07 AM
They used to start at 7:30.....when it was really night racing.
People who work just don't get home in time for a lot these so called night tracks. I used top play Penn every single night. Haven't played it all in several years now.

If you notice, it's mostly slot tracks that have those ridiculous early post times. I guess if you don't care about handle the object is to get the races over as quickly as possible. I prefer 8 pm like the old days.

Robert Goren
07-06-2012, 04:44 AM
They used to start at 7:30.....when it was really night racing.
People who work just don't get home in time for a lot these so called night tracks. I used top play Penn every single night. Haven't played it all in several years now. Tom is right. If they truely wanted to avoid the heat, a 7:30 post time would be a lot more reasonable. Most of time, the temperature has moved at least 5 or 6 degrees of it highs by 7:30. I would have no problem with a 7:30 PT if they did it for heat related reasons. It show some real concern about the horses. It would probably cost some handle, but it is a reasonable compromise. I doubt if any race track will do it. It makes too much sense.

rastajenk
07-06-2012, 07:41 AM
You are one odd bird. :p

Tom
07-06-2012, 07:57 AM
I was not suggesting anything about heat, only convenience for those who work all day.

lamboguy
07-06-2012, 10:56 AM
saturday's cards

they are doing the right thing in both cases. i know that some people will say that they did not cancel like this years ago. years ago they didn't use lassix either, something that de-hydrates the horses. in this kind of weather it is unhealthy for the horse. its unhealthy for humans as well that are on lassix. the air is very heavy and full of insects that you breath.

cj
07-06-2012, 10:59 AM
AP, 7-5, post time 5:00
Pen, 7-6 and 7-7, post time 7:00
Del, 7-7, Canx
Prx, 7-7, Canx

Vinman
07-06-2012, 12:14 PM
Monmouth is holding a handicapping contest Sat., with the 500K United Nations as the feature. Contest will be rescheduled if Monmouth does not run a live card. Other contest tracks are Belmont & Calder.

Spoke to someone in their racing office about an hour ago re the possibility of cancellation tomorrow. It is being discussed. He would not say when a decision would be made one way or the other, but did mention they are mindful of trainers shipping in for tomorrow. I told him I'd call back around 5.

Anyone hear what Belmont is doing for tomorrow?

Vinman

MickJ26
07-06-2012, 01:07 PM
Supposed to be near 100 degrees on Saturday with the heat index well over that. I hope they cancel.

stuball
07-06-2012, 01:11 PM
Give me 1 good reason why they could not run the races at night and let me bet on them the next day. an obvious solution...no?

Stuball

Vinman
07-06-2012, 01:12 PM
With Delaware & Parx cancelling Sat. I'd be very surprised if Monmouth didn't follow suit. Last year Monmouth cancelled multiple cards on opening weekend at Saratoga, which did run.

Vinman

Beachbabe
07-06-2012, 01:16 PM
Monmouth, being near the seashore, could experience less oppressive heat indexes than the more land-locked tracks tomorrow.........maybe.

highnote
07-06-2012, 01:41 PM
According to Edward Hotaling in his book "They're Off! Horse Racing at Saratoga" racing at Saratoga in the 1800s took place during the morning with the first post at 10:00 AM. This is a good idea. It's cooler then. The horses are on a morning schedule and this frees up the evenings for social time (for the people -- not the horses).

A little digression:

August 14, 1847 was the first day of organized racing at Saratoga. The Old Gray Mare trotted onto the track about 3:30 PM and won her race against the male Moscow. Moscow pulled a two wheel sulky. The 14 year old mare pulled a 4 wheel sulky.

She won the best-of-5 one-mile heats.

MaTH716
07-06-2012, 02:37 PM
According to Edward Hotaling in his book "They're Off! Horse Racing at Saratoga" racing at Saratoga in the 1800s took place during the morning with the first post at 10:00 AM. This is a good idea. It's cooler then. The horses are on a morning schedule and this frees up the evenings for social time (for the people -- not the horses).

A little digression:

August 14, 1847 was the first day of organized racing at Saratoga. The Old Gray Mare trotted onto the track about 3:30 PM and won her race against the male Moscow. Moscow pulled a two wheel sulky. The 14 year old mare pulled a 4 wheel sulky.

She won the best-of-5 one-mile heats.

Wow, I bet the people simulcasting in California were cranky. You know having to wake up at 6 to go play Spa races....................... :rolleyes:

Wagergirl
07-06-2012, 02:51 PM
Wow, I bet the people simulcasting in California were cranky. You know having to wake up at 6 to go play Spa races....................... :rolleyes:

:lol:

Vinman
07-06-2012, 04:04 PM
Just got off the phone with Brian Skirka at Monmouth, who will be running the handicapping contest tomorrow. He said they won't decide whether or not to cancel until tomorrow morning.

If there is no live racing at Monmouth tomorrow, he said the contest will be rescheduled.

Vinman

cj
07-06-2012, 04:18 PM
AP, 7-5, post time 5:00
Pen, 7-6 and 7-7, post time 7:00
Del, 7-7, Canx
Prx, 7-7, Canx

Adding:

CT, 7-8, Canx

highnote
07-06-2012, 04:47 PM
Wow, I bet the people simulcasting in California were cranky. You know having to wake up at 6 to go play Spa races....................... :rolleyes:


How did they get the satellites into space to simulcast the races back in the 1800s? The first coast-to-coast telegraph was not sent until the 1880s. Maybe they sent a DVD by Pony Express?

Californians still have to get up at 6:00 AM to play the first race of the Breeders' Cup when it the first post is 10:00 AM. Nothing new here.

Wagergirl
07-06-2012, 05:07 PM
How did they get the satellites into space to simulcast the races back in the 1800s? The first coast-to-coast telegraph was not sent until the 1880s. Maybe they sent a DVD by Pony Express?

Californians still have to get up at 6:00 AM to play the first race of the Breeders' Cup when it the first post is 10:00 AM. Nothing new here.


missing the sarcasm huh....:confused:

highnote
07-06-2012, 05:47 PM
missing the sarcasm huh....:confused:


Nope. I was just playing along. DVD by Pony Express was pretty funny, I thought. Of course, I do tend to be the first to laugh at my own jokes. :D

Wagergirl
07-06-2012, 05:48 PM
Nope. I was just playing along. DVD by Pony Express was pretty funny, I thought. Of course, I do tend to be the first to laugh at my own jokes. :D

I suffer from that issue myself at times. :-)

Mr G
07-06-2012, 06:46 PM
Anyone hear what Belmont is doing for tomorrow?

Vinman

Haven't heard anything yet as of 6:30 PM E.S.T Friday night but with temps expected to be in the 90's tomorrow I sure hope they will cancel....And if they don't, I would hope the owners and trainers would pull their horses and jockeys refuse to ride to force them to cancel.

And by pure greed they do run races I won't be betting any and even though they wouldn't miss my money for a race day it would still be my own personal protest....

Anyone who wishes to race in mid 90's weather should be forced to run around the track themselves.

highnote
07-06-2012, 06:49 PM
[QUOTE=Mr G]Haven't heard anything yet as of 6:30 PM E.S.T Friday night but with temps expected to be in the 90's tomorrow I sure hope they will cancel....
QUOTE]


90 degrees now doesn't feel as nearly as hot me as it did 2 weeks ago. Of course, I'm not a horse -- even though my wife says I eat like one.

Still, shouldn't the horses have acclimated by now? How long does it take for a horse to get acclimated to the heat?

Mr G
07-06-2012, 07:00 PM
It’s Hot Out Here for a Horse

Horses don’t like heat. They evolved in cool, even sub-arctic climates and are generally poorly-suited to deal with hot, humid weather. Heat makes horses sweat. Horses dissipate 75 percent of excess heat by sweating. The remainder of the heat is blown off by respiration. High humidity reduces the horse’s ability to dissipate heat by sweating, making it more difficult to keep the body temperature normal.

Hydration and electrolyte balance are critical in the racing thoroughbred. Muscle, nervous, pulmonary, cardiac, and joint function are vulnerable to electrolyte imbalances. Most electrolyte imbalances in thoroughbreds are caused by excessive pre-race anxiety and perspiration (washing out), which can be exacerbated by the use of race-day Lasix.

Potassium is one of the critical electrolytes depleted by washing out, as are sodium and chloride. Lasix depletes calcium and magnesium. These electrolytes are all essential for proper nerve, muscle, and circulatory function, and they all must be balanced in relation to one another.

When electrolyte dysfunction begins, wobbliness and weakness ensue, stressing the musculoskeletal system. After electrolyte imbalance becomes marked, the syndrome can move into thermoregulatory dysfunction, and the core temperature of the horse becomes elevated, causing further and more serious consequences. Although, high temperatures cause exercising horses to sweat heavily to dissipate the internal heat, susceptibility to heat stress is not solely influenced by ambient temperature alone. Excitable temperaments are the biggest culprit. Calm horses can generally maintain a normal body temperature and minimize sweating utilizing their ability to remain quiet and relaxed. In hot weather, anxiety-riddled horses can become electrolyte imbalanced before the race begins.

Other factors that may make horses vulnerable to heat include failure to be acclimated to hot temperatures and high humidity, tendency to sweat, and withdrawal of drinking water before racing. Racehorses may lose to 10-20L of sweat in a one-mile race. Fluid loss thickens the blood, making it flow more slowly, delivering less needed oxygen as the race perseveres. Additionally, hot horses redistribute blood flow to the skin in attempt to cool the blood off. This combination results in less blood being available for critical racing muscles, resulting in muscle weakness and cramping, weakness that may become especially noticeable in the last half mile of a one and a half mile race.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/its-hot-out-here-for-a-horse/

David-LV
07-06-2012, 07:22 PM
The forecast for Belmont on Saturday is a high of 102, Belmont should do the right thing and cancel right now instead of waiting for the last minute.

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David-LV

Al Gobbi
07-06-2012, 07:33 PM
Monmouth will race tomorrow.

Vinman
07-06-2012, 10:35 PM
As of 10pm, the following info regarding the heat for Saturday is posted on accuweather.com for Elmont, NY, Oceanport, NJ, Wilmington, DE and Bensalem, PA....

Elmont, NY is the least severe, under an "Excessive Heat Advisory" until 6pm Saturday. A heat advisory is issued when the combination of heat and humidity is expected to make it feel like it is 100 to 104 "for two consecutive hours".

Oceanport, NJ is under a more severe "Excessive Heat Warning", until 8pm Saturday. An excessive heat warning means that a prolonged period of dangerously hot temperatures will occur (versus "two consecutive hours" under the "advisory"). It goes on to say that "the combination of hot temperatures and humidity will create a dangerous situation in which heat illnesses are likely.

The "Heat Index Values", predicted to be between 100 and 104 for Elmont, are forecast at between 105 and 110 for Oceanport.

For Wilmington, DE and Bensalem, PA, both of which are also under an Excessive Heat Warning, the predicted Heat Index Values are "up to 110". Their Excessive Heat Warnings are in effect until 6am Sunday.

The following was posted for the care of animals under an Excessive Heat Warning:

"Please make sure pets have access to plenty of cool water and a well ventilated area. The most humane thing to do is bring them into an air conditioned place".

They don't cover whether or nor horses should race, but that last sentence provides a pretty good indication of what they would advise regarding the care of horses for Saturday.

Based on the above info, I would be surprised if Monmouth ran tomorrow. Remember that when Saratoga ran on opening day last year, Monmouth cancelled a couple of cards in a row due to the heat.

Sounds like Belmont has a better chance to run, but we'll just have to see.

Vinman

highnote
07-06-2012, 11:02 PM
It’s Hot Out Here for a Horse

Horses don’t like heat. They evolved in cool, even sub-arctic climates and are generally poorly-suited to deal with hot, humid weather.

Your post and the information about horses on wikipedia differ (but I suppose the steppes are by definition sub-artic, so maybe your post is not that different?):

The horse belongs to an order known as Perissodactyla, or "odd-toed ungulates", which all share hooved feet and an odd number of toes on each foot, as well as mobile upper lips and a similar tooth structure. This means horses share a common ancestry with tapirs and rhinoceroses. The perissodactyls originally arose in the late Paleocene, less than 10 million years after the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event. This group of animals appears to have been originally specialized for life in tropical forests, but whereas tapirs and, to some extent, rhinoceroses, retained their jungle specializations, modern horses are adapted to life on drier land in the much-harsher climatic conditions of the steppes. Other species of Equus are adapted to a variety of intermediate conditions.

Now, I know horses are a long way removed from rhinos, but still they started out in the jungle (which I presume was hot and humid) and the modern horse continued evolving on drier land in the harsher climatic conditions of the steppes. And of course the Arabian horse is well-known for its ability to adapt to the desert. The wild mustangs in the desert of Nevada seem to fare OK. It seems to me horses can adapt to a wide variety of conditions. And I would presume that if they are properly conditioned they can perform strenuous activity in a variety of extreme conditions. One endurance race in middle east requires horses to cover 125 miles in two days. The Tevis Cup in California is 100 miles. The winner is not always the first horse to finish. The horse has to pass a vet inspection. Sometimes it is the "Best Conditioned" award that riders covet the most and not the first place trophy.

http://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/200004/duel.in.the.desert-endurance.racing.in.dubai.htm

PaceAdvantage
07-07-2012, 01:13 AM
The forecast for Belmont on Saturday is a high of 102, Belmont should do the right thing and cancel right now instead of waiting for the last minute.

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David-LVWhy? Because weathermen are so accurate?

Maybe it won't be quite as hot as they are predicting.

What's the huge problem TO YOU with waiting until the last minute? If anything, it's the horsemen who would/should be more pissed about the last minute thing, as they are prepping their horses for raceday.

I understand that you as a fan/bettor will be inconvenienced with a last minute cancellation, but I would rather they take all available info into consideration before cancelling than act like your run-of-the-mill racino and cancel at the drop of a hat.

David-LV
07-07-2012, 01:43 AM
Why? Because weathermen are so accurate?

Maybe it won't be quite as hot as they are predicting.

What's the huge problem TO YOU with waiting until the last minute? If anything, it's the horsemen who would/should be more pissed about the last minute thing, as they are prepping their horses for raceday.

I understand that you as a fan/bettor will be inconvenienced with a last minute cancellation, but I would rather they take all available info into consideration before cancelling than act like your run-of-the-mill racino and cancel at the drop of a hat.

The main reason is that horses are treated with Lasix and some horses are vanned in at a cost to the owners among other things.

Did not Belmont announce the day before and cancel on Thurs June 21 for this same reason of excessive heat?

As a fan it does not inconvenience me at all, I have 20 other tracks left to play plus some great harness at night this Saturday.

It was the same weathermen that gave the forecast for Thurs. June 21.
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David-LV

PaceAdvantage
07-07-2012, 01:45 AM
I have been consistent in my belief that cancelling days out because of a predicted weather report may not be the best move.

highnote
07-07-2012, 01:53 AM
I have been consistent in my belief that cancelling days out because of a predicted weather report may not be the best move.


Are horsemen free to scratch their horses for any reason they want? Is there a penalty for scratching when the horse is not injured? I would think there is NOT a penalty because plenty of horsemen enter their horses at multiple tracks on the same day and then choose which race to run in.

The reason I ask is because what if a horseman is shipping in from out of town and is concerned that the races will be canceled. What if he spends $500 or a $1,000 to ship and then at the last minute there is no racing?

Maybe this is just the cost of doing business?

Or maybe the horseman should enter his or her horse at multiple tracks in case of cancelation so that he or she will have a place to run their horse?

Horsemen must face these types of questions every summer.

PaceAdvantage
07-07-2012, 02:00 AM
This has been the worst summer in my memory in terms of heat-related cancellations.

Most likely due to two things other than the obvious (the heat!):

1) Racinos and their willingness to cancel should someone light a match off in the distance

2) Racing's shattered image and the unwillingness of today's track management to take even the slightest risk that running may endanger the lives of horses because of the heat (this is a good thing of course)

the little guy
07-07-2012, 05:07 AM
Did not Belmont announce the day before and cancel on Thurs June 21 for this same reason of excessive heat?




Belmont cancelled between 8 and 9am that Thursday....not the day before.

Just the facts maam.

Ernie Dahlman
07-07-2012, 08:43 AM
Belmont cancelled between 8 and 9am that Thursday....not the day before.

Just the facts maam.

They put it on nyra.com around 10am. Maybe they could improve on that.

Vinman
07-07-2012, 08:47 AM
Spoke to the Belmont racing office 10 minutes ago. They are running today.

Also spoke to Monmouth.....no final decision yet.

Vinman
07-07-2012, 08:55 AM
Spoke to Brian Skirka at Monmouth just now. Should have a decision by 10am.

Vinman
07-07-2012, 09:18 AM
Just called Monmouth. They're racing today.

NJ Stinks
07-07-2012, 09:44 AM
Appreciate the info, Vinman. :ThmbUp:

Tom
07-07-2012, 10:01 AM
My plan, not to bother handicapping of betting an of the tracks in the heat wave. Looking at some of the results this past week, I think heat is affecting form, so why push it?

I'll see what the day brings track by track and play what looks playable at reasonable weather. Scratches come so late these days, I don't bother looking at a card before the 3rd race anymore. :rolleyes:

David-LV
07-07-2012, 10:29 AM
I just spoke to MTH and they told me that they are racing as of now and they have had at least 10 scratches from owners not going to ship their horses in today.

Just got the scratches and there are a total of 13 scratches which is about the normal amount.
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David-LV

sammy the sage
07-07-2012, 10:32 AM
Wondering if Ellis Park will cancel...hotter than ANY of the E.C. tracks today...

Valuist
07-07-2012, 10:36 AM
Wondering if Ellis Park will cancel...hotter than ANY of the E.C. tracks today...

98-100 degrees at Ellis is commonplace. July-August in the Evansville area has to be one of the most hot/humid places around. Besides guys with low level claimers feel they can't afford to cancel.

David-LV
07-07-2012, 10:48 AM
Just heard on the radio.
Belmont say's it's a go it the jockeys say they will ride.

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David-LV

lamboguy
07-07-2012, 11:29 AM
PETA is at the front door in Monmouth already today. i suspect they will cancel after the second race.

jelly
07-07-2012, 12:54 PM
The PETA crowd thought Monmouth was giving away free prozac.

highnote
07-07-2012, 03:00 PM
Besides guys with low level claimers feel they can't afford to cancel.


I'm not being critical -- just wondering what the priority is -- is it about the welfare of the horses or about the welfare of the horsemen?

Wagergirl
07-07-2012, 03:02 PM
I'm not being critical -- just wondering what the priority is -- is it about the welfare of the horses or about the welfare of the horsemen?

I would say there is a line when it is only about the welfare of the horse, and a line where it is all about the horsemen. It's the gray murky area in between those lines that confuses people.

PaceAdvantage
07-07-2012, 03:08 PM
94 degrees at Belmont...nothing near the 100 they were predicting...

Dew point 61...humidity 33%

Good thing they waited on their decision, just like I said...smart move NYRA! :ThmbUp:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Elmont&state=NY&site=OKX&textField1=40.7039&textField2=-73.7075&e=0

alhattab
07-07-2012, 10:10 PM
PETA is at the front door in Monmouth already today. i suspect they will cancel after the second race.

Lambo were you @ Mth today? I was there and didn't see any PETA types. Matternof fact I saw hardly anyone. I've been at Monmouth on at least 10 days that were hotter than today it wasn't a big deal.

PaceAdvantage
07-08-2012, 12:56 AM
Accuracy isn't lambo's strong suit...he's a weaver of tales...betcha he'd be fun to have a drink with... :lol: :lol:

speed
07-08-2012, 01:14 AM
Accuracy isn't lambo's strong suit...he's a weaver of tales...betcha he'd be fun to have a drink with... :lol: :lol:
Whhhaaaaattttttt, weaver of tales. Surely you jest. lol

Tom
07-08-2012, 10:55 AM
Accuracy isn't lambo's strong suit...he's a weaver of tales...betcha he'd be fun to have a drink with... :lol: :lol:


Actually, he is!
I thoroughly enjoyed my visit with him at Toga and look forward for another.

Saratoga_Mike
07-08-2012, 12:17 PM
CNL cancelled for today (7/8). Odd, they don't even have a casino. :rolleyes:

highnote
07-08-2012, 01:02 PM
CNL cancelled for today (7/8). Odd, they don't even have a casino. :rolleyes:


Then it is apparant that they have been following this thread and didn't want to get any negative publicity.

BlueShoe
07-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Just announced on TVG by RP that Suffolk Downs has canceled Tuesday racing due to heat.

Solid_Gold
07-17-2012, 09:56 AM
PRX has cancelled as well for Tue. 7/17 due to heat index.

John
07-17-2012, 11:33 AM
Suffolk Downs 7\17 due to heat

Solid_Gold
07-18-2012, 11:30 AM
Delaware park has cancelled for Wed. 7/18- due to heat.

Wagergirl
08-03-2012, 02:00 PM
Due to severe weather Live racing at Calder has been cancelled.

Tom
08-03-2012, 02:38 PM
btw, where has Goren been?
Did he cancel due to heat?

MaTH716
08-03-2012, 02:39 PM
btw, where has Goren been?
Did he cancel due to heat?

Nah, I think somebody probably made a wise buisness decision.........................:rolleyes:

Wagergirl
08-03-2012, 02:46 PM
btw, where has Goren been?
Did he cancel due to heat?

yeah he was a fun train wreck...

chazz
08-26-2012, 09:51 AM
Calder is closed today 8/26/12 do to the bad weather.

Wagergirl
08-27-2012, 12:26 AM
Fair Grounds cancels racing, orders backstretch evacuated as prelude to hurricane


http://www.drf.com/news/fair-grounds-cancels-racing-orders-backstretch-evacuated-prelude-hurricane

thespaah
08-27-2012, 10:33 AM
Fair Grounds cancels racing, orders backstretch evacuated as prelude to hurricane


http://www.drf.com/news/fair-grounds-cancels-racing-orders-backstretch-evacuated-prelude-hurricane
With the potential for a 6-12 ft storm surge FG could be flooded for a day or two.

cj
08-27-2012, 10:36 AM
This a quarter horse board now?

Wagergirl
08-27-2012, 11:14 AM
Some people bet the quarterhorse races as well. I was just trying to be informative. :-)

cj
08-27-2012, 11:14 AM
Some people bet the quarterhorse races as well. I was just trying to be informative. :-)

I was just joking, sorry. I certainly hope the storm doesn't hit as hard as expected.

Beachbabe
08-28-2012, 12:36 PM
Parx cancelled today 8/28 after running only 2 races yesterday. The riders voted not to ride due to unsafe track conditions.

BlueShoe
08-29-2012, 12:13 AM
Evangeline canceled for Wednesday 8-29-12 due to hurricane Isaac.This was widely expected and is no surprise.

LAP_520
09-17-2012, 06:57 PM
Kentucky Downs (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/racetracks/68/kentucky-downs) has canceled its Sept. 17 race card due to inclement weather and "less-than-perfect track conditions," according to a release from the Franklin, Ky. track


Read more on BloodHorse.com: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/72888/kentucky-downs-cancels-sept-17-live-racing#ixzz26lqSiIHC

LAP_520
09-25-2012, 04:22 PM
Delaware Park announced its live racing card for Thursday, Sept. 27, has been cancelled due to insufficient entries.

Live racing is still scheduled to go on Sept. 26, and will resume on Saturday, Sept. 29, with a first race post time of 1:15 p.m.

The races that did fill for the now-cancelled card will be brought back as extra races for Sept. 29 and Oct. 1.

thespaah
09-25-2012, 09:08 PM
Delaware Park announced its live racing card for Thursday, Sept. 27, has been cancelled due to insufficient entries.

Live racing is still scheduled to go on Sept. 26, and will resume on Saturday, Sept. 29, with a first race post time of 1:15 p.m.

The races that did fill for the now-cancelled card will be brought back as extra races for Sept. 29 and Oct. 1.

Just checked the Del Park Condition Book for that day...9 races. One of which was Arabian. Three substitute races. Wonder why they could not fill.

therussmeister
09-26-2012, 11:27 AM
Just checked the Del Park Condition Book for that day...9 races. One of which was Arabian. Three substitute races. Wonder why they could not fill.
Because Laurel routinely has a dozen or more horses on their cards that last raced at Delaware.

thespaah
09-26-2012, 01:44 PM
Because Laurel routinely has a dozen or more horses on their cards that last raced at Delaware.
Doesn't Del Park have strict rules about stall space, horses on the grounds given preferential treatment, shippers( if a trainer has a horse on the grounds and races elsewhere, the horse cannot run at DP for 30 days or something)?
Seems to me the more restrictive a track is in trying to keep horses racing there, tends to actually run people off and want to race elsewhere.
Oh, with all the talk about slots inflated purses, if DP's are inflated, I'd hate to see what the purses would be without the casino play.
Christ there would not be a $10,000 purse for any field.

Brogan
09-26-2012, 06:02 PM
Just checked the Del Park Condition Book for that day...9 races. One of which was Arabian. Three substitute races. Wonder why they could not fill.
The reason they didn't fill is quite simple. I tried to enter a horse there for the first time in two years.

cj
09-27-2012, 03:51 PM
No Belmont tomorrow, 9-28, to keep the track in top condition for Saturday.

Tom
09-27-2012, 10:48 PM
Never had rain before? :lol:

cj
09-27-2012, 11:31 PM
I'll complain about a lot of things, but canceling racing well in advance isn't one of them.

thespaah
09-27-2012, 11:47 PM
The reason they didn't fill is quite simple. I tried to enter a horse there for the first time in two years.
What is the reason?

hibiscus
09-28-2012, 12:35 AM
What is the reason?

Looks like NYRA panicked on this one. It’s understandable though. If a horse were to so much as throw a shoe they’d the have the Governor threatening again to “withhold” the casino subsidy.

Brogan
09-28-2012, 05:43 PM
What is the reason?
My response was meant to be ironic. Haven't run a horse at Delaware in 2 years. We chose to enter on a day that the card didn't fill and the whole day was scrapped.

thespaah
09-28-2012, 09:07 PM
My response was meant to be ironic. Haven't run a horse at Delaware in 2 years. We chose to enter on a day that the card didn't fill and the whole day was scrapped.
Gotcha...

onefast99
09-29-2012, 07:33 AM
Belmont Park 9-29 no turf races 1st and 4th. Great to see them protecting the rock like turf course which needed the rain!

Tom
09-29-2012, 10:33 AM
Maybe the jocks will play it safe today and not gun their horses out of the gate and set those suicide fractions like they usually do.

alhattab
09-29-2012, 10:37 AM
Doesn't Del Park have strict rules about stall space, horses on the grounds given preferential treatment, shippers( if a trainer has a horse on the grounds and races elsewhere, the horse cannot run at DP for 30 days or something)?
Seems to me the more restrictive a track is in trying to keep horses racing there, tends to actually run people off and want to race elsewhere.
Oh, with all the talk about slots inflated purses, if DP's are inflated, I'd hate to see what the purses would be without the casino play.
Christ there would not be a $10,000 purse for any field.

Believe back in the day Del's purses were $80k/day

jeebus1083
09-29-2012, 11:02 AM
No Belmont tomorrow, 9-28, to keep the track in top condition for Saturday.

From what I hear, the rain was no worse than normal, and they probably could have ran yesterday. Seems like they really jumped the gun and wasted a raceday for nothing.

Racing on "wet" tracks is part of the game, and has been for as long as there has been racing on dirt. Except for dire circumstances, NYRA should let the horseplayer decide with their wallets if they wish to deal with the idiosyncricies that come along with playing wet tracks, not the other way around. There are plenty of other choices out there on a normal day.

cj
09-29-2012, 11:40 AM
From what I hear, the rain was no worse than normal, and they probably could have ran yesterday. Seems like they really jumped the gun and wasted a raceday for nothing.

Racing on "wet" tracks is part of the game, and has been for as long as there has been racing on dirt. Except for dire circumstances, NYRA should let the horseplayer decide with their wallets if they wish to deal with the idiosyncricies that come along with playing wet tracks, not the other way around. There are plenty of other choices out there on a normal day.

I don't have a problem with having the track in top shape for such a big day of racing. I really don't understand why losing a day is a big deal for anyone.

PaceAdvantage
09-29-2012, 07:26 PM
This is a byproduct of the games the state is playing. They want to exaggerate how NYRA is to blame for horse deaths at Aqueduct, well then, NYRA is going to play it super safe and cancel and cost the state some $$$.

Nobody should be complaining.

Tom
09-29-2012, 07:35 PM
Playing games at the expense of their customers - great business model.

cj
09-29-2012, 10:12 PM
Playing games at the expense of their customers - great business model.

But really, canceling 24 hours in advance, what is the expense?

Tom
09-29-2012, 11:18 PM
People who bought PPs ahead of time, people who took the day off make a three-day weekend out of it....people who drove or flew in for a big weekend.

jeebus1083
09-29-2012, 11:26 PM
I don't have a problem with having the track in top shape for such a big day of racing. I really don't understand why losing a day is a big deal for anyone.

Then NYRA shouldn't race the day before a "major event" day. And I agree with PA... sounds like NYRA was playing "safe" with Cuomo breathing down their neck.

lamboguy
09-29-2012, 11:29 PM
i have no idea why, Zia was canceled today

Robert Goren
09-30-2012, 09:12 AM
Then NYRA shouldn't race the day before a "major event" day. And I agree with PA... sounds like NYRA was playing "safe" with Cuomo breathing down their neck.Cuomo is going to do what he is going to do no matter what the current management of NYRA does. NYRA should run the business as they see fit as long as they can. Nothing they do now is going to save their jobs. At this point they are just biding time til the axe falls.

showbet
09-30-2012, 02:53 PM
i have no idea why, Zia was canceled today
Poor track condition due to heavy rain on Friday and Saturday. They cancelled again today.

OverlayHunter
10-16-2012, 07:25 AM
It used to be fairly easy to find cancellations for previous years on the Equibase site. I may be staring it in the face but I've looked into every logical and semi-logical link and I cannot find them. Specifically I'm looking for 2011. Does anyone know where I can find that?

thespaah
10-16-2012, 06:11 PM
People who bought PPs ahead of time, people who took the day off make a three-day weekend out of it....people who drove or flew in for a big weekend.
All 334 of them?
Seriously, if NYRA gave a day's notice that Friday's races would be cancelled, that is plenty of notice.
The track was not closed. Simulcast wagering was available.

takeout
10-16-2012, 11:01 PM
It used to be fairly easy to find cancellations for previous years on the Equibase site. I may be staring it in the face but I've looked into every logical and semi-logical link and I cannot find them.Ditto here. Noticed it quite awhile back. Looks like they've disappeared everything but the recent year. Not good.

Al Gobbi
10-22-2012, 11:31 AM
Another canceled card at Delaware due to small fields. Wednesday 10/24.

therussmeister
10-28-2012, 11:59 AM
Parx has cancelled Mon - Tues 10/29 - 10/30

LAP_520
10-29-2012, 09:20 AM
MONDAY October 29, 2012


Sandy's effects have cancelled horse racing cards for Monday at:

DELAWARE PARK (T)

HARRINGTON (H)

PARX (T)

MONTICELLO RACEWAY (H)

SUFFOLK DOWNS (T)

YONKERS RACEWAY (H)


Other Gambling Establishments:

New York Stock Exchange is closed ... but electronical trading is open

Atlantic City Casinos are CLOSED

Hoofhearted
10-29-2012, 10:28 AM
MONDAY October 29, 2012


Sandy's effects have cancelled horse racing cards for Monday at:

DELAWARE PARK (T)

HARRINGTON (H)

PARX (T)

MONTICELLO RACEWAY (H)

SUFFOLK DOWNS (T)

YONKERS RACEWAY (H)




Thanks.
How 'bout Finger Lakes; is the scheduled meet going ahead this evening?

Al Gobbi
10-29-2012, 10:40 AM
Fort Erie has cancelled tomorrow's card, today's card will go on a race-by-race basis.

Tom
10-29-2012, 02:15 PM
Not much rain at FL so far.
Haven't heard if they are going or not, but not at night.

Hoofhearted
10-29-2012, 04:21 PM
Not much rain at FL so far.
Haven't heard if they are going or not, but not at night.
It is local night-time when I see it -- living in GreenwichMeanTime-land. :)

Anyway, seems as Finger Lakes is racing .......... which surprises me as FL is in upstate New York and in Hurricane Sandy's footprint if I'm not mistaken?

Wagergirl
10-29-2012, 05:10 PM
they ran early, so it's already over before it got bad.

so.cal.fan
10-29-2012, 05:15 PM
Will this terrible storm prevent flights of horses coming from the East Coast to Santa Anita for the BC Friday and Sat?

PaceAdvantage
10-29-2012, 05:16 PM
Will this terrible storm prevent flights of horses coming from the East Coast to Santa Anita for the BC Friday and Sat?I believe they got out yesterday....

andtheyreoff
10-29-2012, 06:09 PM
Will this terrible storm prevent flights of horses coming from the East Coast to Santa Anita for the BC Friday and Sat?

The majority of them (Mott, Brown, and Shug) got out this morning and have already landed in California.

Pletcher's horses, Wise Dan, Fort Larned, and a few others remain on the East Coast. They will ship out Wednesday at 8:15, per DRF twitter.

LAP_520
10-30-2012, 09:04 AM
Tuesday October 30, 2012

Cancellations:

PARX RACING (T)

MONTICELLO (H)

YONKERS (H)

FINGER LAKES is scheduled to run their racecard again today.

THE MEADOWS (H)

FORT ERIE (T)

POCONO DOWNS (H)

ROSECROFT RACEWAY (H)


OTHERS:

NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE

NEW YORK TRANSIT AUTHORITY

MANY, MANY FLIGHTS CANCELLED...check with your airline for status.



BE WISE AND, WHEN IN DOUBT.... BE SAFE FIRST EVERYONE !

speed
10-30-2012, 09:34 AM
Finger lakes also cancelled. On a good note, Beulah has to have larger pools being the only track racing early. Harness included i believe.

therussmeister
10-30-2012, 10:58 AM
Finger lakes also cancelled. On a good note, Beulah has to have larger pools being the only track racing early. Harness included i believe.
Or no pools, if no one wants to bother if it's only Beulah running.

ArlJim78
10-30-2012, 11:09 AM
assuming Mountaineer cancels tonight, we're left with only Beulah, Turf Paradise, and Zia Park for todays action.
I can hardly contain my enthusiasm.

Tom
10-30-2012, 11:11 AM
Surprised FL cancelled - not a bad storm here.
Seen far worse every spring.
Must be they got more rain than we did in the city.

LAP_520
10-30-2012, 12:52 PM
Tuesday 10/30/2012


Finger Lakes cancels their race card.... Must be because of transportation issues from Hurricane Sandy.


Very doubtful Aqueduct will be racing Friday 11/2....... That area of NY got hit harder then the center of New York....

rastajenk
10-30-2012, 01:06 PM
Beulah's first post delayed 15 mins to keep working the track; ominous.

Al Gobbi
10-31-2012, 12:37 PM
Meadowlands cancels this weekend, no word if simulcasting will occur.

LAP_520
10-31-2012, 12:50 PM
Belmont has power issues......

Aqueduct opens Fridsay Nov 2nd... saw where they had taken the entries for Friday and Saturday's race card.

Looks like a go for Aqueduct.

thespaah
10-31-2012, 10:08 PM
Meadowlands cancels this weekend, no word if simulcasting will occur.
The tidal gate system failed which flooded the entire area.
I think the next Meadowlands event will be the Giants game on Sunday.

showbet
11-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Live Racing at Aqueduct Canceled Wednesday (http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Nov072012.shtml)

The New York Racing Association, Inc. (NYRA) has canceled live racing at Aqueduct Racetrack on Wednesday, November 7, due to forecast rain and high winds.

showbet
11-08-2012, 07:54 AM
Live Racing at Aqueduct Canceled Thursday (http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Nov072012.shtml)

The New York Racing Association, Inc. (NYRA) has canceled live racing at Aqueduct Racetrack on Thursday, November 8 following a nor’easter that passed through the region Wednesday and left behind several inches of wet snow.

Stillriledup
12-22-2012, 07:02 PM
Penn Nat just cancelled the remainder of their card for dec 22.

stu
12-26-2012, 10:34 AM
I believe that both Penn National and Turfway Park have cancelled for 12/26th

stu
12-26-2012, 01:46 PM
and Laurel's 3rd thru 9th

takeout
12-27-2012, 11:58 AM
CT and Pen for 12/27, what a shocker. :rolleyes:

stu
12-29-2012, 08:45 AM
Cancel Aqueduct for Saturday 12/29

LAP_520
12-29-2012, 09:48 AM
Cancel Aqueduct for Saturday 12/29


Live racing at Aqueduct cancelled due to pending storm of snow and rain expected to arrive mid afternoon.... read more at:
http://www.nyra.com/

acorn54
12-29-2012, 10:28 AM
racing cancelled due to impendending storm. my source for weather, the national
weather service says only light rain/snow-go figure.

LAP_520
12-29-2012, 10:46 AM
Years ago....they would race and try to at least get the Daily Double in ( Races 1 and 2 ) ..then the jockeys would make a commit on the weather conditions....and what not...

Now.. with the Receiving Barn in the picture and Race 1 horses must be there by 7 AM, they have to go with what they have knowledge of....

I believe the overnight forecast called for upwards of 5 inches of snow in the City...

Either way NYRA pulled the plug early on Live racing.

turninforhome10
12-29-2012, 11:39 AM
Live a block away from Parx and the snow is really coming down. Not sure if they are gonna cancel but the track will probably reflect the half or so inch we have gotten already.

FantasticDan
12-29-2012, 12:03 PM
Live a block away from Parx and the snow is really coming down. Not sure if they are gonna cancel but the track will probably reflect the half or so inch we have gotten already.Track condition should be "snowy" :p , but they're still racing..

turninforhome10
12-29-2012, 01:05 PM
For those playing Parx, it has switched to rain.

LAP_520
01-09-2013, 05:25 PM
- Wednesday January 9, 2013

Delta Downs -
Due to presistent heavy rainfall, Delta Downs has elected to cancel its Wednesday night program. Live racing is scheduled to return on Thursday with post time set for 5:45 p.m. CST.

hplayer2
01-09-2013, 07:04 PM
Just my luck. Had 3 Stable Alert entries tonight. None tomorrow.

ArlJim78
01-10-2013, 01:37 PM
Look like Fairgrounds has pulled the plug on todays card.

PhantomOnTour
01-10-2013, 01:47 PM
Look like Fairgrounds has pulled the plug on todays card.
All of south Louisiana has been getting deluged for about 48hrs now.
The rain literally hasn't stopped...always a drizzle and thunderstorms galore.
Schools closed, roads closed, EAS alerts every friggin 15mins on the TV.

Time to break out the pirogue!

Beachbabe
01-12-2013, 01:54 PM
Oaklawn cancelled today, Jan 12 due to heavy rains

RXB
01-12-2013, 01:59 PM
It's not just heavy rains at Oaklawn; there is a rather large sinkhole in the racing surface-- maybe a foot deep and at least 15 feet wide, I'd say, based on what I've just seen from their feed. So they won't be racing tomorrow (Sunday), either.

turninforhome10
01-12-2013, 02:03 PM
All of south Louisiana has been getting deluged for about 48hrs now.
The rain literally hasn't stopped...always a drizzle and thunderstorms galore.
Schools closed, roads closed, EAS alerts every friggin 15mins on the TV.

Time to break out the pirogue!

Cajun Pleasure Cruise

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eRp2UP67JnU/Tdsfh2U2_EI/AAAAAAAAAZI/J1BTy_voAVs/s1600/pirogue2e.JPG

Shelby
01-12-2013, 02:07 PM
It's not just heavy rains at Oaklawn; there is a rather large sinkhole in the racing surface-- maybe a foot deep and at least 15 feet wide, I'd say, based on what I've just seen from their feed. So they won't be racing tomorrow (Sunday), either.


Oh man, I'm glad we didn't spend the money to go down there! That sucks!

LAP_520
01-12-2013, 02:14 PM
Oaklawn cancelled today,Saturday~ Jan 12, 2013 due to heavy rains, and now they have cancelled their race card for Sunday January 13, 2013.

LAP_520
01-22-2013, 09:45 AM
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 PARX Racing has cancelled today

thespaah
01-22-2013, 10:26 AM
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 PARX Racing has cancelled today
I would suspect the unusually low temps to be the culprit?
BTW, I expect Parx, Aqueduct and for the harness people, Medowlands to be shuttered at least part of the weekend. Looks like a major winter storm is brewing. Forecast models have the storm tracking across the Mid Atlantic before moving up the east coast.
There's always Gulfstream, Tampa, Fairgrounds and Santa Anita...

LAP_520
01-22-2013, 10:27 AM
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 CHARLES TOWN has cancelled

Valuist
01-22-2013, 11:11 AM
Oh man, I'm glad we didn't spend the money to go down there! That sucks!

Cancellations are a possibility there at any point in January.

Stillriledup
01-23-2013, 01:18 AM
Anyone have any thoughts of the Big A racing Thursday? I dont know if tracks cancel due to wind or coldness, i dont know Big As history of cancelling at the drop of a hat, or are they a hearty bunch?

Ocala Mike
01-23-2013, 10:09 AM
The prediction is for cold and windy, with wind chills as low as -2F.

My thought is a cancellation is very likely.

Al Gobbi
01-23-2013, 10:54 AM
The prediction is for cold and windy, with wind chills as low as -2F.

My thought is a cancellation is very likely.

High temp of 26 both Thursday and Friday, with 30+ mph winds on Thursday, and 3 inches of snow possible on Friday.

thespaah
01-23-2013, 11:01 AM
Anyone have any thoughts of the Big A racing Thursday? I dont know if tracks cancel due to wind or coldness, i dont know Big As history of cancelling at the drop of a hat, or are they a hearty bunch?
I've seen NYRA cancel Aqueduct due to extreme cold before.

SandyW
01-23-2013, 12:11 PM
Anyone have any thoughts of the Big A racing Thursday? I dont know if tracks cancel due to wind or coldness, i dont know Big As history of cancelling at the drop of a hat, or are they a hearty bunch?

Now that they have slot money, it does not take much of a weather problem to cancel.

the little guy
01-23-2013, 12:21 PM
Now that they have slot money, it does not take much of a weather problem to cancel.

Not true at all.

I often wonder what it is about the four letters N Y R A that seems to make people need to completely fabricate things and then act like they are facts. In your 13 posts you have two completely made up assertions about NYRA.

Robert Goren
01-23-2013, 12:35 PM
If nothing else, the heat last summer proved one thing. NYRA had no problem canceling a wed or thur, but they won't cancel a sat. No matter what the defenders of NYRA say, the canceled dates tell the story.

NTamm1215
01-23-2013, 12:48 PM
If nothing else, the heat last summer proved one thing. NYRA had no problem canceling a wed or thur, but they won't cancel a sat. No matter what the defenders of NYRA say, the canceled dates tell the story.

The SATURDAY 12/29 card was cancelled. But, you've never let facts get in your way.

Robert Goren
01-23-2013, 01:00 PM
The SATURDAY 12/29 card was cancelled. But, you've never let facts get in your way.You are right they did. Sandy W must right about the slot money kicking in.

the little guy
01-23-2013, 01:06 PM
The SATURDAY 12/29 card was cancelled. But, you've never let facts get in your way.

He's like a dog that responds to a special whistle....the whistle being me trying to explain away another lie about NYRA. However, in the dog's case, he comes to his owner. In Robert's case he runs head first into a wall.

lamboguy
01-23-2013, 01:23 PM
the last in the world that a horse track that has slots wants to see is horse racing cancelled. the days that horse racing goes on, the slot machine handles goes up. not just in New York, but all over. Parx is trying to get more racing dates so they can keep their slot machines cranking full strength.

Tom
01-23-2013, 02:05 PM
They look for excuses to cancel so that the trainers and owners can spend the day at the slots, which is why they are REALLY there in the first place.

Stillriledup
01-23-2013, 02:49 PM
Not true at all.

I often wonder what it is about the four letters N Y R A that seems to make people need to completely fabricate things and then act like they are facts. In your 13 posts you have two completely made up assertions about NYRA.

So its ok then to spend a few hours working on tomorrow's card?

Ocala Mike
01-23-2013, 03:17 PM
So its ok then to spend a few hours working on tomorrow's card?



Sure, why not? If they cancel, you can make mind bets or even get them in through Manti T'eo's book.

;)

Tom
01-23-2013, 03:22 PM
Good idea, then all you can lose is your mind!:D

Jay Trotter
01-23-2013, 03:58 PM
So its ok then to spend a few hours working on tomorrow's card?I think you're good! If you check Solid Gold's result chart you'll likely hit a few exotics!!!! :lol:

Stillriledup
01-23-2013, 07:13 PM
Sure, why not? If they cancel, you can make mind bets or even get them in through Manti T'eo's book.

;)

I've made so many mind bets in my betting career that i've lost my mind long ago! :lol:

cj
01-23-2013, 07:51 PM
Lets keep this thread to actual cancellations please, thank you.

LAP_520
01-24-2013, 08:39 AM
AQUEDUCT has cancelled their card for Thursday, January 24th 2013 due to extreme cold conditions.

Stillriledup
01-24-2013, 06:41 PM
Big A running tomorrow or Saturday? Any thoughts on pending cancellations from this place?

Shelby
01-24-2013, 06:55 PM
I'd guess they won't run tomorrow.....isn't the forecast the same as today was?

LAP_520
01-24-2013, 08:14 PM
Thurs...Jan 24, 2013

CHARLES TOWN cancels their card after the second race.

Stillriledup
01-24-2013, 10:13 PM
I'd guess they won't run tomorrow.....isn't the forecast the same as today was?

Dont know.....but, if it is, why wouldnt they just advance cancel?

Ocala Mike
01-24-2013, 11:11 PM
Big A running tomorrow or Saturday? Any thoughts on pending cancellations from this place?



I think you have crossed a line in the sand with this post, as this thread is supposed to be for ACTUAL cancellations only. Surprised your post hasn't been deleted, along with all the posts made on here between 8:39 am and 6:41 pm today.

Wickel
01-24-2013, 11:14 PM
Charles Town cancelled Friday, Jan. 25, too. Too cold to race.

Al Gobbi
01-25-2013, 07:14 AM
Aqueduct cancelled for Friday.

Shelby
01-26-2013, 02:47 PM
Charles Town cancelled again for Sat. the 26th.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/75849/charles-town-races-canceled-again-jan-26

LAP_520
01-27-2013, 03:04 PM
Sunday January 27, 2013

TURF PARADISE has cancelled today's live racing

duncan04
01-28-2013, 03:20 PM
Turf Paradise has also cancelled today Monday the 28th

RXB
01-29-2013, 11:30 AM
TuP also cancelled today (Tue); will schedule a make-up card on Thursday.

ArlJim78
01-29-2013, 01:15 PM
3 days. what's the deal with TUP, rain?

johnhannibalsmith
01-29-2013, 02:32 PM
3 days. what's the deal with TUP, rain?


Four days. They cancelled Saturday as well. It rained Friday night through Sunday pretty steadily and has been lingering about since. It doesn't take a whole lot of precipitation to finish off any chance of running for days on end.

Stillriledup
01-29-2013, 03:46 PM
Four days. They cancelled Saturday as well. It rained Friday night through Sunday pretty steadily and has been lingering about since. It doesn't take a whole lot of precipitation to finish off any chance of running for days on end.

I dont understand why they cant run on a sloppy track, can you give me the cliff notes?

johnhannibalsmith
01-29-2013, 04:06 PM
I dont understand why they cant run on a sloppy track, can you give me the cliff notes?

Not really. I'm not a trackman and am one of the few that has (almost) never paced angrily at the rail and pretended to be. The track has changed in terms of depth, composition, maintenance schedules, and maintenance crew several times in my time here. The thing that has remained consistent is that it just never handles water well.

I could come with oft repeated theories about the base and caliche, but I honestly don't know why it falls apart so easily. You can generally run over it after it rains without any real problems, but the subsequent days it is completely shot after being punched up all day. I imagine if they ripped out the existing architecture and replaced the whole thing and invested a ton of money, it could probably fare better. That isn't going to happen.

Bear in mind also, this is Turf Paradise. The quality of racehorse you're dealing with is inferior to even the quality of horse you tended to see at Turf Paradise just a half-dozen years ago. I'm not going to go to the extreme and categorize the population as a bunch of cripples, but there are plenty of good old horses with problems and never was good horses that aren't overly athletic and hardly poetry in motion. Many of the same jocks that ride here now have ridden here for years and have had plenty of fun riding these eggbeaters and choppy jalopies on good tracks and don't need to find out how well the one that runs around there in his left lead from start to finish is going to handle the slippery ooze. I don't really blame them, but no need to approach the same subject in another thread in the one reserved for cancellations. ;)

LAP_520
02-01-2013, 11:00 AM
FRIDAY, FEB 1st 2013


TURFWAY cancels their card...... too cold

Stillriledup
02-01-2013, 06:41 PM
Charlestown Cancelled for Feb 1.

appistappis
02-06-2013, 02:47 PM
Beulah just cancelled...no reason given here

LAP_520
02-06-2013, 04:15 PM
Beulah just cancelled...no reason given here


Beulah Park cancelled after the 3rd race today (2/06/2013).

Track looked good... no accident on track..... just stopped racing (?)

Robert Goren
02-06-2013, 06:43 PM
Beulah Park cancelled after the 3rd race today (2/06/2013).

Track looked good... no accident on track..... just stopped racing (?) Their site says "due to a rapidly thawing track"

duncan04
02-07-2013, 04:26 PM
Aqueduct has cancelled for tomorrow 2/8 due to blizzard warning

LAP_520
02-07-2013, 04:32 PM
No live racing on Friday 2/08/2013 at Aqueduct... and they could cancel Saturday also if the winds get blowing ... but no official word yet....

oddsmaven
02-07-2013, 04:49 PM
i see nyra twitter announced cancellation at aqueduct tomorrow.

LAP_520
02-07-2013, 07:31 PM
No live racing on Friday 2/08/2013 at Aqueduct... and they could cancel Saturday also if the winds get blowing ... but no official word yet....



On NYRA website tonight (2/07/2013)
A decision on live racing and simulcasting for Saturday, February 9 will be made Friday.

andtheyreoff
02-07-2013, 10:04 PM
The Meadowlands has cancelled their Friday night program. 8-12 inches of snow expected.

Knowclew
02-07-2013, 11:54 PM
Monticello and Yonkers also out (along with the Big M) on the harness side for Friday.

PaceAdvantage
02-08-2013, 01:40 PM
Aqueduct Saturday Live Races

Al Gobbi
02-08-2013, 01:46 PM
Monticello and Yonkers also out (along with the Big M) on the harness side for Friday.

Woodbine and Western Fair have also cancelled for tonight. Assuming Yonkers will cancel Saturday.

AlbertButtry
02-08-2013, 01:47 PM
Penn National for tonight

LAP_520
02-08-2013, 05:40 PM
On NYRA website...
Due to a winter storm expected to bring snow overnight, The New York Racing Association, Inc. (NYRA) has canceled live racing at Aqueduct Racetrack for Saturday, February 9.

PaceAdvantage
02-08-2013, 07:38 PM
I posted Aqueduct Saturday was cancelled at 1:40pm today. LAP_520, you are the second person to duplicate that info (I deleted the first one)...does my 1:40pm post only appear to me? :lol:

Shelby
02-08-2013, 07:44 PM
Apparently, no one believed you. :lol:

PaceAdvantage
02-08-2013, 07:55 PM
Apparently, no one believed you. :lol:Except when it comes to Ghostzapper, I only post good info... :lol:

speed
02-08-2013, 07:57 PM
I posted Aqueduct Saturday was cancelled at 1:40pm today. LAP_520, you are the second person to duplicate that info (I deleted the first one)...does my 1:40pm post only appear to me? :lol:
I thought i was the only one who had you on ignore. :lol:

PaceAdvantage
02-08-2013, 08:05 PM
this thread is only supposed to be for cancellations, so I am going to have to delete these chit chat posts soon...trying to save cj some work...lol

cj
02-08-2013, 11:03 PM
this thread is only supposed to be for cancellations, so I am going to have to delete these chit chat posts soon...trying to save cj some work...lol

I don't mind playing bad cop!

Horseplayersbet.com
02-09-2013, 10:06 AM
Aqueduct and Parx today
http://www.equibase.com/static/latechanges/html/cancellations.html?SAP=TN

mountainman
03-03-2013, 01:04 PM
No racing at mnr tonite. Meeting at noon to decide on tomorrow.

stu
03-06-2013, 05:14 AM
Laurel Park has cancelled for today

VeryOldMan
03-06-2013, 11:05 AM
Charles Town cancelled tonight.

Rise Over Run
03-08-2013, 07:15 AM
Aqueduct canceled racing on Friday (3/8) due to snow.

BobbyMcMuffin
03-25-2013, 11:08 AM
Parx canceled 3/25

cj
03-26-2013, 12:48 PM
Fairmount Park today

cnollfan
04-18-2013, 11:10 PM
Evangeline cancelled the last three races tonight (4-18-13). Does anyone know what happened?

thespaah
04-18-2013, 11:27 PM
Evangeline cancelled the last three races tonight (4-18-13). Does anyone know what happened?
Just checked the radar out of New Orleans....Radar indicates heavy rainfall throughout So. Louisiana.

PhantomOnTour
04-18-2013, 11:34 PM
Evangeline cancelled the last three races tonight (4-18-13). Does anyone know what happened?
I live about 20mins south of Evangeline Downs.
The weather was weird tonite, almost tornado like conditions.
Humid and windy, VERY windy (like 25-30mph) with low clouds.
Then, around 9pm the temp began to drop rapidly...it literally got cool then cooler in under an hour...then the rains came.
Still raining and very windy...jocks or staff must have deemed it unsafe with the high winds, rain, and possible twisters.

Al Gobbi
06-21-2013, 11:10 PM
Fort Erie has cancelled the next three Mondays (6/24, 7/1, 7/8) of racing due to a lack of horses/entries.

cj
06-26-2013, 04:51 PM
Hastings Park, 6-29, lack of entries, on a Saturday!

RXB
06-26-2013, 07:40 PM
Remainder of Colonial card today (Wed Jun 26) due to power failure; that was one wicked-looking storm.

Al Gobbi
06-26-2013, 10:36 PM
Hastings Park, 6-29, lack of entries, on a Saturday!
also will cancel Friday 7/5 as well.

Al Gobbi
06-27-2013, 01:09 PM
Suffolk Downs cancelling three cards of racing in July (4th, 9th & 16th) due to a horse shortage.

RXB
07-10-2013, 08:16 PM
Last three races at Colonial cancelled tonight (July 10) because of another severe storm.

Al Gobbi
07-10-2013, 11:53 PM
Two more cards at Hastings cancelled, Friday July 26th and Saturday, August 3rd.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoroughbred-racing/hastings-cancels-two-race-cards-due-to-shortage-of-entries/

thespaah
07-16-2013, 12:54 PM
It's going to be oppressively hot and humid on opening day.
NYZ041-162000-
NORTHERN SARATOGA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SARATOGA SPRINGS
935 AM EDT TUE JUL 16 2013
.THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT...PARTLY CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE
OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. HOT. LOWS IN THE LOWER 70S. HIGHS IN
THE LOWER 90S. CHANCE OF RAIN 30 PERCENT. HEAT INDEX VALUES UP TO
100.
Relief for Upstate NY is on the way. Starting Sunday, temps will be in the upper 70's to low 80's with comfortable humidity.

TheEdge07
07-18-2013, 07:40 PM
Plenty of Scrs tomorrow if the heat continues.

wiffleball whizz
07-18-2013, 07:49 PM
Plenty of Scrs tomorrow if the heat continues.

They should cancel and race the card Tuesday imo

I know it's not as easy as that though

Rise Over Run
07-18-2013, 07:58 PM
They should cancel and race the card Tuesday imo

I know it's not as easy as that though
Better chance of you dating the "real" Lisa Guerrero than a cancellation of opening day to run next Tuesday.

wiffleball whizz
07-18-2013, 08:28 PM
Better chance of you dating the "real" Lisa Guerrero than a cancellation of opening day to run next Tuesday.

I agree but if they did cancel downtown Saratoga would sure smile.....35k people that would be at the racetrack that would be spending money in town

Opening day or not if it's too hot cancel the card,....would rather read about people steaming about not betting then reading about horses overheating and dying or whatever can happen to them in extreme heat


Be prepared for mth canceling tnrw.....or lots of 3 horse fields....ya know a 6 horse field scratched down to 3......sad part was I was gonna take a trip tnrw

Stillriledup
07-18-2013, 11:38 PM
They'll run 1 race,.....have a 45 minute "delay" to sell ice cold Beer and not ice cold exactas while "milling/mulling/mullins over" whether they should cancel or not, than announce: come back tomorrow for "opening day" as "today" is cancelled.


Lets hope they find a way to get the races in, i could use the money. :D

PaceAdvantage
07-19-2013, 01:07 AM
Oh come on...the forecast high is 94 tomorrow for Saratoga...when was the last time a track cancelled in the summer because it was 94 degrees out?

They'll have the hoses and buckets of water out for the horses after they cross the finish line. All will be well...

lamboguy
07-19-2013, 01:38 PM
the friday program for Scarborough Downs has been cancelled today due to the heat. check back tomorrow for another program.

thespaah
07-19-2013, 01:53 PM
I am surprised Delaware has no canceled. That track has more excessive heat cancellations than any other track..That I know of.
\As of 2PM EDT...Wilmington Int'l Airport which is close to Delaware Park had a Temp of 94 ..Heat Index 106

Stillriledup
07-19-2013, 02:02 PM
Oh come on...the forecast high is 94 tomorrow for Saratoga...when was the last time a track cancelled in the summer because it was 94 degrees out?

They'll have the hoses and buckets of water out for the horses after they cross the finish line. All will be well...

NYRA doesnt seem "hardy" or "hearty" they cancel at drops of hats. They're not "we race no matter what" type of organization. its ok though, to each his own.

Saratoga_Mike
07-19-2013, 09:28 PM
Oh come on...the forecast high is 94 tomorrow for Saratoga...when was the last time a track cancelled in the summer because it was 94 degrees out?

...

Belmont last June, I believe.

While it was hot at Saratoga today, the humidity wasn't off the charts like it is sometimes.

PaceAdvantage
07-21-2013, 09:39 PM
Belmont last June, I believe.Belmont cancelled because it was 94 out? Really?