Pena suspension today?

[SchagFactorToWin]

Just received this from Harness Racing Update:

"Controversial harness trainer Lou Pena will be suspended indefinitely later this afternoon by the New York State Racing & Wagering Board, according to a source. The board plans to announce that Pena is being cited with roughly 1,700 drug violations, the source said. Sources tell Harness Racing Update that through the cooperation of the New Jersey Racing Commission, New York authorities were able to obtain Pena’s veterinary records, and those records revealed a frequent use of medications that were not permissable within the timeframe in which he used them, according to racing’s rules."

[The Bit]

1700 violations ... How many of his supporters are going to man up?

[pandy]

I'd love to hear what his creepy owners have to say now, like Jay, who always brags about how great his trainer is. Unfortunately Lou Pena will probably be the only one to take the fall and his owners will do what they always do, move to another crooked trainer. They used Kesmodel (now suspended), then moved to Napolitano, Jr., who was throw out of Pocono Downs (allowed back as a driver), then to Pena.

I hope NY and NJ also go after his beards, one of them is winning at 32% at Yonkers.

I knew this would happen eventually, they all take the fall.

[cecil127]

couple of years late, wouldnt ya say?:sleeping:

[LottaKash]

Only 1,700....:D (c'mon give the guy a break)

Goodbye, again Lou.......and again, and again, and again...

best,

[pandy]

All of his horses should not be allowed to race for at least 3 months. I'm sure they're going to go after the owner's purse winnings but that's tough to win, so at least they can hurt these crooks by suspending their horses. I would not allow the horses to race for a year. As for The Lightning Lane stable, they should not be allowed to own race horses ever again.

[lamboguy]

i just got done reading these violations. every horse was treated with clen the day before the race according to vet records. how come the lab never got a positive on all those violations?

on top of that, i am sure there must have been something mixed in with the clen, but they didn't find the designer drugs if they were administered.

[DeanT]

i just got done reading these violations. every horse was treated with clen the day before the race according to vet records. how come the lab never got a positive on all those violations?

on top of that, i am sure there must have been something mixed in with the clen, but they didn't find the designer drugs if they were administered.

There are others as well that are very curious. As far as I know the NSAIDs all test too, but they didn't come up as positive.

And what the hell is Factrel doing in all the horses? I dont know if that tests or not.

Anyway, it is really interesting stuff. If the vet records are right - and he was throwing the kitchen sink at every horse in the barn - one wonders who the hell is doing the testing in New York, and how bad is it, if so?

[Hanover1]

While on target here, this may have caused more problems than it has solved.

[Sea Biscuit]

While on target here, this may have caused more problems than it has solved.

Please don't jump to conclusions here. This is not a NYS ruling but rather a notice of suspension and a hearing.

1700 violations and not a single positive. Wow!!! What does that tell you about the NY State testing facilities. How incompetent can they be for which they are being paid good dollars to do a job. Are these the magic elixirs that we all having been waiting with abated breath that made his horses go 3 seconds faster? Not.

Now I am not a chemist nor a vet and don't know much about the drugs that Pena was purportedly using, but this much is clear that in almost every instance the ruling does not say that the said drug itself was illegal to use but only the timing of the administration of the drug was off.

I am pretty sure that Pena does not inject his horses personally but rather one of his licensed vets does. If a drug was injected say 47 1/2 hours before post time instead of the required 48 hours, then isn't the vet to blame for that rather than Pena. Least they can do is revoke the licenses of these vets who committed these horrendous crimes.

Good luck to the NY State in proving the timings of the administration of the drugs.

What a crude way to get rid of a trainer by pulling 2 year old vet records and incidentally his was the only vet records that were pulled.

If this is not discrimination, I don't know what is.

[pandy]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'd like to see vet records of some other top trainers to see how they compare.

[Sea Biscuit]

I'd like to see vet records of some other top trainers to see how they compare.

If that happens all the skeletons will be falling out of the cupboards of race tracks across America.


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[Canarsie]

Anyway, it is really interesting stuff. If the vet records are right - and he was throwing the kitchen sink at every horse in the barn - one wonders who the hell is doing the testing in New York, and how bad is it, if so?

Seriously even though Gural banned him from the Meadowlands the testing method in NJ has to be even worse then NYS.

[LottaKash]

If that happens all the skeletons will be falling out of the cupboards of race tracks across America.


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Biscuit, I say, "Let-er rip Nellie"...Let the chips fall where they may....I want a clean sport....Something "must" be done, and soon I should hope....

Things just can't stay the way they are and expect to survive for the long haul....

This may be a feeble attempt, but at least the question of cheating, is being looked at more closely....

Lot of work to be done, but you gotta start somewhere....

So, if that status quo remains, does anyone that is serious about horseracing, like that ?....

best,

[Sea Biscuit]

Biscuit, I say, "Let-er rip Nellie"...Let the chips fall where they may....I want a clean sport....Something "must" be done, and soon I should hope....



We have a long way to go.

Just look at the positive suspensions on this bulletin at USTA which is only for May 18. There are about 50/60 bulletins in the achieves such as this.

http://horsemen.ustrotting.com/pdf/rulings/rulings-20120518.pdf

[Pacingguy]

First of all, can anyone tell me what Factrel does to a horse? i looked it up and went "What"?

Let me say right now, even if the horses didn't test positive; once they can confirm the records are right, they should kick his butt back to California.

Why confirm the records are correct? It is a legal process. I am sure it is just a formality. Of course, we have appeals to the court coming. So who knows how long it will take to get him out? Of course, in NY it is elementary, as YR will exclude him again if an injunction is received. Harrah's may let him race as they are doing anything possible to discredit racing there to get racing kicked out.

Jay Bergman said NY State stopped testing for everything as a result of budget limitations.

Now, a couple of things to ponder. Will the suspension hold up? With Fusco, they had a positive which could be used as a reason to check the records in the state. Here, they had NJ pull the records with nothing to merit (suspensions, etc.) a look. I know it is not a legal proceeding, but do they have the right to look without a positive?

What is going to happen in NJ? Nothing said yet. My guess is they are hoping not to do anything and just honor NY's suspension.

I do have one problem. While deserving, this was a definite bring Pena down process. To me it is somewhat unfair. I want to see them do this type of search on other super trainers like Burke, Takter, Coleman, and the like. Will they do it? I hope so, but I feel they won't.

[Saratoga_Mike]

First of all, can anyone tell me what Factrel does to a horse? i looked it up and went "What"?

Let me say right now, even if the horses didn't test positive; once they can confirm the records are right, they should kick his butt back to California.

Why confirm the records are correct? It is a legal process. I am sure it is just a formality. Of course, we have appeals to the court coming. So who knows how long it will take to get him out? Of course, in NY it is elementary, as YR will exclude him again if an injunction is received. Harrah's may let him race as they are doing anything possible to discredit racing there to get racing kicked out.

Jay Bergman said NY State stopped testing for everything as a result of budget limitations.

Now, a couple of things to ponder. Will the suspension hold up? With Fusco, they had a positive which could be used as a reason to check the records in the state. Here, they had NJ pull the records with nothing to merit (suspensions, etc.) a look. I know it is not a legal proceeding, but do they have the right to look without a positive?

What is going to happen in NJ? Nothing said yet. My guess is they are hoping not to do anything and just honor NY's suspension.

I do have one problem. While deserving, this was a definite bring Pena down process. To me it is somewhat unfair. I want to see them do this type of search on other super trainers like Burke, Takter, Coleman, and the like. Will they do it? I hope so, but I feel they won't.

Someone else alluded to this too. When did it happen? Just harness or t'bred, too?

[pandy]

What a joke. I see that on Saturday night The Lightning Lane’s horses are racing at Yonkers with a trainer change from Pena to Adam Adamczyk. These horses should not be allowed to race for at least 90 days or until Pena’s situation is sorted out. This is another reason why this sport is crumbling. This is the third trainer they’ve used that’s been suspended, Kesmodel, Napolitano, Jr., Pena, and so let’s go easy on them and allow them to just move their horses to another barn.



Pandy

[mrroyboy]

Problem with that Pandy it punishes some owners who didn't know about this stuff. Maybe they have just a small piece of a horse so nobody tells them much

[pandy]

I propose a point system for trainers and owners. You get a certain amount of points for each violation and when you've hit your limit, you're out.

[LottaKash]

I propose a point system for trainers and owners. You get a certain amount of points for each violation and when you've hit your limit, you're out.

Sort of like with your Drivers License....Reach you limit, and you're at least suspended 6mos to 1-year...Then if further violations, the penance gets much worse...Til you are "OUT".....

best,