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Dahoss9698
02-12-2012, 10:08 PM
Oaklawn 2nd on Sunday, jockey Shane Laviolette stops riding #8 CJ Jones midstretch. Looks like he thought the finish line they use for the mile races was the finish line...he realizes it and starts riding again, only to get beat a 1/2 length. Chart makes note of rider misjudging the line.

Hopefully he's suspended.

cj
02-12-2012, 10:13 PM
He's only ridden 40+ races this meet, lets cut him a break. What is funny is that it was a 6f race, not a route where they do change the finish line.

Dahoss9698
02-12-2012, 10:20 PM
He's only ridden 40+ races this meet, lets cut him a break. What is funny is that it was a 6f race, not a route where they do change the finish line.

Yep, makes it even worse.

bigmack
02-12-2012, 10:29 PM
He's only ridden 40+ races this meet, lets cut him a break. What is funny is that it was a 6f race, not a route where they do change the finish line.
Never argue with chart notes.

C J JONES dueled up front in the two path, shook off the other speed to be clear when straightened for home, rider misjudged the finish wire a sixteenth out.

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart/pdf/OP021212USA2.pdf

Rise Over Run
02-12-2012, 10:43 PM
Who needs ITPP when opposing jockeys can't figure out which finish line to ride to?

Thomas Roulston
02-15-2012, 07:34 AM
This is why I have never liked auxiliary finish lines, and never will - although I'm puzzled as to why the tracks that do have them never use them on the turf as well as on the dirt (e.g., Keeneland).

NTamm1215
02-15-2012, 09:09 AM
This is why I have never liked auxiliary finish lines, and never will - although I'm puzzled as to why the tracks that do have them never use them on the turf as well as on the dirt (e.g., Keeneland).

I don't like alternate finish lines either, but what distances would Keeneland need to accommodate on the turf by using the other wire? They can run 1m, 1 1/16, 1 1/8, and 1 3/16 already.

Thomas Roulston
02-16-2012, 02:34 AM
I don't like alternate finish lines either, but what distances would Keeneland need to accommodate on the turf by using the other wire? They can run 1m, 1 1/16, 1 1/8, and 1 3/16 already.


Obviously, 7 1/2 furlongs; and if the Fair Grounds used auxiliary finish lines - and with that 1,346-foot stretch of theirs, it would actually make a lot of sense - they could even do 7 furlongs on the turf (since they do 7 1/2 now), and 1 mile on the dirt.

wisconsin
02-16-2012, 01:26 PM
Obviously, 7 1/2 furlongs; and if the Fair Grounds used auxiliary finish lines - and with that 1,346-foot stretch of theirs, it would actually make a lot of sense - they could even do 7 furlongs on the turf (since they do 7 1/2 now), and 1 mile on the dirt.

Fairgrounds has used an auxiliary finsh line before for dirt races. I don't know if they still do.

illinoisbred
02-16-2012, 01:32 PM
Fairgrounds has used an auxiliary finsh line before for dirt races. I don't know if they still do.
They used to...when they ran 1 mile races and maybe for their 1m +40 yard races too. No longer do.

cj
02-16-2012, 01:56 PM
Obviously, 7 1/2 furlongs; and if the Fair Grounds used auxiliary finish lines - and with that 1,346-foot stretch of theirs, it would actually make a lot of sense - they could even do 7 furlongs on the turf (since they do 7 1/2 now), and 1 mile on the dirt.

Obviously? You think there is some great demand for 7.5f races?

wisconsin
02-16-2012, 07:46 PM
Obviously? You think there is some great demand for 7.5f races?

The stupidest distance know to man. Poor man's route race.

Thomas Roulston
02-18-2012, 08:36 AM
Obviously? You think there is some great demand for 7.5f races?


Well they were essentially unknown until Hollywood Park shortened its stretch in like 1987, making 1-mile dirt races impossible.

And I have lobbied strenuously for Aqueduct to run both 5-furlong and 7 1/2-furlong turf races for quite some time.

cj
02-18-2012, 12:56 PM
Well they were essentially unknown until Hollywood Park shortened its stretch in like 1987, making 1-mile dirt races impossible.

And I have lobbied strenuously for Aqueduct to run both 5-furlong and 7 1/2-furlong turf races for quite some time.
Why???