The Superbowl: Conservative Ritual that Unites America

[Frank DeMartini]

Let me know what you think of this article.

http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2012/02/the-superbowl-conservative-ritual-that-unites-america/ (http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2012/02/the-superbowl-conservative-ritual-that-unites-america/)

[Dave Schwartz]

Well, I believe that the majority of liberals on this board would object to saying that one of their favorite annual events was a "conservative ritual."

Have you ever heard the saying that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar? (Which in our modern-day vernacular has nothing to do with Freud or phallic symbols.)

Of course, one could argue that it is all in one's personal point of view. Perhaps a liberal might say that the qualities embodied in the SB are based upon the level playing field that they would like to see across all endeavors.

That is, a guy who comes from poverty is not destined to fail in the NFL.

In truth, not all men are created equal, and certainly not when it comes to football. Freud would have had a good time with this one: "Size matters."

IMHO, this article was written by a card-carrying conservative. More importantly, it was written for other card-carrying conservatives. And, of course, as is usually the case, to tell the liberals how wrong they are.

I believe a liberal could have written a similar piece about the SB in order to show why the conservative point of view is so out of whack.


Tell me... and I suggest that you respond to this question or else I would ask, "Is PA simply a place for you to post hoping for ping-backs?" I mean, are you a horse player as well?

My question:
"Why must the Super Bowl be conservative or liberal?" Why can't it simply be the celebration of an American pastime?

IMHO, both sides of the aisle are guilty of this attempt to polarize most everything.

Maybe you should meet Hcp. You and he could probably "discuss" life for hours with neither of you hearing a single thing that the other said.


Just my opinion.

Regards,
Dave Schwartz
Who is a card-carrying American
first, last and always

[jdhanover]

Very well said Dave. We should all remember we are Americans first and foremost, then conservative or liberal as a distant 2d. Bin Laden didn't plan 9/11 to kill only liberals or conservatives. I am sure he didn't care.

Not everything is liberal vs conservative....in fact, most things aren't.

G-Men - World Champions...again!

[LottaKash]

Maybe you should meet Hcp. You and he could probably "discuss" life for hours with neither of you hearing a single thing that the other said.


Just my opinion.

Regards,
Dave Schwartz
Who is a card-carrying American
first, last and always

Well crafted thoughts Dave...:ThmbUp:

On the Hcap thing, I divorced him today....Hooray !:jump: :jump: :jump:

best,

[Dave Schwartz]

I just looked up Mr. DeMartini's posts. I seriously question that he has much interest in horse racing.

[Robert Goren]

I just looked up Mr. DeMartini's posts. I seriously question that he has much interest in horse racing.Since he has yet to post anything on horse racing, I think are you probably right.

[Rookies]

Nice retort, Dave!

Only a possessed Con like DeMartini would try and make this a cause celebre for the right.

Oddly enough, as DeMartini well knows, it ain't called:

" SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH"- for nothing!;)

[Dave Schwartz]

Rooks,

Yes, but don't leave out the other part. You know, he is no different than all the libs writing similar blogs, everything as seen through the eyes of the people who see things with polar-vision. (Which has nothing to do with cold weather or bears.)

It is one of the reasons IMHO that we are where we are.

Where are the Americans!

[JustRalph]

I don't know martini and I don't read him, skimmed this piece.

But I believe that there is a point to be made. That point being the Superbowl is a capitalist event. Driven by money and fame, fortune etc. that's innately American. Which I don't mind as long as it doesn't cross into immorality etc. we manage to walk that line less successfully each year it seems. Right and wrong gets blurred a little more in all of our big events it seems. We worship felons on the field like gladiators of old, when in reality it probably degrades us in this day and age.

If you don't think the Super Bowl is the ultimate capitalist event, find me a socialist country with anything close. :lol:

[Jay Trotter]

I agree with Dave's take on things. I actually find it offensive that DeMartini posts his links here. If he were making similar posts in the non-Off Topics forums he would be run out of town.

That being said, I wouldn't mind if other "real" members had links to their businesses in their signature. I enjoy knowing more about the person behind the handle and would generally support their endevours if possible, whether they were racing related or not.

On a separate note, I don't think the Super Bowl is the ultimate "Conservative" event. It is simply the ultimate "Event" which happens to lend itself perfectly to the capitalistic nature of America. It's an event that transcends sport which makes it ideal for showcasing products.

[PaceAdvantage]

I agree with Dave's take on things. I actually find it offensive that DeMartini posts his links here. If he were making similar posts in the non-Off Topics forums he would be run out of town.McSlew (I think that's his name) recently started posting in the selections section with links back to his free website and I allowed it...it's free and some might find it interesting/useful.

[Tom]

Is it a coincidence that the NE Patriots dress like Tea Partiers?

hmmmmmmm?

[Jay Trotter]

McSlew (I think that's his name) recently started posting in the selections section with links back to his free website and I allowed it...it's free and some might find it interesting/useful.
It's MeSlew turnip! I'm just sayin' but then who am I. I don't think the two are in the same boat on a racing site. Move along, nothing to see!

[Dave Schwartz]

Okay, Trottie... can we get a translator? I don't speak Canuck.

[Jay Trotter]

Okay, Trottie... can we get a translator? I don't speak Canuck.
The guys name is MeSlew not McSlew and I'm calling Mike a turnip (a vegetable). Then I'm saying "it's just my opinion" but I know that doesn't hold much sway. I then go on to say "I'm just joking" so don't everybody go taking me serious!

If you think about it though, speaking "American" is just a much slower version of speaking "Canuck"! :D

[cj's dad]

That being said, I wouldn't mind if other "real" members had links to their businesses in their signature. I enjoy knowing more about the person behind the handle and would generally support their endevours if possible, whether they were racing related or not.

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JT, are you saying that what we (I) do for a living is a prerequisite for posting here and the degree of credibility that one has is based on the level of (In your opinion) status one's position in life has ????

[Rookies]

f you think about it though, speaking "American" is just a much slower version of speaking "Canuck"! :D

Like the Beer...;) :lol:

[Dave Schwartz]

Now it all seems so clear. (Or is that "clearly Canadian?") :lol:

Thanks.

[Jay Trotter]

JT, are you saying that what we (I) do for a living is a prerequisite for posting here and the degree of credibility that one has is based on the level of (In your opinion) status one's position in life has ????
No, that's not what I'm saying at all! In fact the opposite -- I'm saying if one is a genuine member of the PA community then I would actually like to know if they have a business I might be able to support. I don't like when someone like DeMartini, who doesn't contribute in any way to the matter of racing/handicapping, comes here to simply pimp his blog.

How you came up with "what they do for a living" adding to one's credibility I don't know. That isn't an issue to me.

[cj's dad]

No, that's not what I'm saying at all! In fact the opposite -- I'm saying if one is a genuine member of the PA community then I would actually like to know if they have a business I might be able to support. I don't like when someone like DeMartini, who doesn't contribute in any way to the matter of racing/handicapping, comes here to simply pimp his blog.

How you came up with "what they do for a living" adding to one's credibility I don't know. That isn't an issue to me.

sorry, misunderstood your post !