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maddog42
02-05-2012, 11:06 AM
The Super Bowl has become a day to celebrate capitalism.

"American consumers are expected to spend about $11 billion on items related to the big game, according to the Retail Advertising and Marketing Association."

Advertisers are spending 3.5 million per 30 second spot.

Two things have made this country great: freedom and capitalism. I think more specifically the small business entrepeneur. While I have championed a lot of liberal causes on this board, I have been sympathetic with republicans complaining about small businesses taking hits and having their costs to do business rise. Small businesses are probably the saviours of this country. The giant corporations are putting the squeeze on the small business owners.

When Bass Pro Shops (Outdoor World) was thinking about coming to Okc the OKC legislators made special laws to give them a special Tax break. A few local tackle shops even complained to me that they wished they could receive special treatment like that. While Bass Pro has been a boon to the economy,
those small guys have a point. Since Bass Pro came in a few of those smaller stores have went out of business.
When capitalism and politicians combine, the money flows and the powerful get their way. I guess it has always been that way.With Capitalism you take the good with the bad.

http://newsok.com/super-bowl-puts-capitalism-in-spotlight/article/3646121

johnhannibalsmith
02-05-2012, 11:27 AM
I must be marxist/socialist/communist/etc. as I hope with all of my might that History channel is showing a full day of Alien Encounters or something equally interesting so I don't have to keep the television off all day.

BAH HUMBALL!

Tom
02-05-2012, 11:51 AM
What, and miss the Matt Lauer live interview with a tackling dummy during the pre-game game show?

badcompany
02-05-2012, 12:00 PM
The Super Bowl has become a day to celebrate capitalism.

"American consumers are expected to spend about $11 billion on items related to the big game, according to the Retail Advertising and Marketing Association."

Advertisers are spending 3.5 million per 30 second spot.

Two things have made this country great: freedom and capitalism. I think more specifically the small business entrepeneur. While I have championed a lot of liberal causes on this board, I have been sympathetic with republicans complaining about small businesses taking hits and having their costs to do business rise. Small businesses are probably the saviours of this country. The giant corporations are putting the squeeze on the small business owners.

When Bass Pro Shops (Outdoor World) was thinking about coming to Okc the OKC legislators made special laws to give them a special Tax break. A few local tackle shops even complained to me that they wished they could receive special treatment like that. While Bass Pro has been a boon to the economy,
those small guys have a point. Since Bass Pro came in a few of those smaller stores have went out of business.
When capitalism and politicians combine, the money flows and the powerful get their way. I guess it has always been that way.With Capitalism you take the good with the bad.

http://newsok.com/super-bowl-puts-capitalism-in-spotlight/article/3646121

While I prefer small businesses for many things, especially food, restuarants and diners, you have to remember that big business didn't start out big, it became big because the consumer was very satisfied with the product/service being offered.

Here's the history of Bass Pro:

The owner, John L. Morris, began his career in sporting goods with a fishing section in the back of a Brown Derby liquor store owned by his father, located in Springfield on the road to Table Rock Lake (http:///wiki/Table_Rock_Lake) and Branson, Missouri (http:///wiki/Branson,_Missouri). That small fishing department sold homemade bait and worms, proving popular enough that Bass Pro Shops incorporated in 1972. These homemade baits were so popular that many people wanted the opportunity to buy these when they had returned home. Thus began the Bass Pro Shops catalog first mailed in 1974. Soon, it became the world's largest mail order sporting goods store. In 1975, to meet the burgeoning demand for Bass Pro Shops exclusive products, American Rod and Gun was established. Acting as a separate wholesaling entity ARG serves more than 7,000 independently owned retail stores world wide. In 1977, Bass Pro Shops introduced the first fish-ready complete boat motor and trailer package with the Bass Tracker. In 1984, construction began on the Outdoor World Catalog Showroom in Springfield, Missouri (http:///wiki/Springfield,_Missouri). Big Cedar Lodge opened in 1988 on Table Rock Lake (http:///wiki/Table_Rock_Lake). In 1995, Bass Pro Shops Sportsman's Warehouse opened in Atlanta, Georgia (http:///wiki/Atlanta,_Georgia), its first store outside the state of Missouri (http:///wiki/Missouri). In November 2001, taking advantage of Outdoor World's popularity as a tourist destination, the Wonders of Wildlife (http:///wiki/Wonders_of_Wildlife) museum was opened next door to the store in Springfield.[1] (http://#cite_note-0)[2] (http://#cite_note-1)

Tom
02-05-2012, 12:03 PM
With Capitalism you take the good with the bad.

Is the state better off with the big guy or without him?
It is not about the few little shops, it is about the state as a whole.
No one ever seems to mention that.

johnhannibalsmith
02-05-2012, 12:09 PM
What, and miss the Matt Lauer live interview with a tackling dummy during the pre-game game show?

I'm sure it will be an enlightening, hard-hitting expose chock full of thoughts and ideas never heard before. :rolleyes:

Though it probably will be voted best Super Bowl commercial.

socantra
02-05-2012, 12:32 PM
What, and miss the Matt Lauer live interview with a tackling dummy during the pre-game game show?
It's always exciting to see Matt Lauer push the bounds of his intellect and ability. :D

boxcar
02-05-2012, 01:23 PM
It's always exciting to see Matt Lauer push the bounds of his intellect and ability. :D

If he's going up against a dummy, Matt is over-matched.

Boxcar

Grits
02-05-2012, 02:31 PM
"American consumers are expected to spend about $11 billion on items related to the big game, according to the Retail Advertising and Marketing Association."

Guys, if big business wasn't big business, you all wouldn't have a football game, much less a SuperBowl to watch.:rolleyes: Don't think I contributed a great deal to this big investment number.

Have the wine, have the Crown, it goes with water only. Didn't have to buy either of these, at least, not yesterday.

Did have to buy the cheddar cheese, the Corn Black Bean Red Pepper Salsa, and the Pinto Bean Dip. The salsa and dip were buy one/get one FREE. (Surprise there!) Have the MultiGrain Tortilla Chips. Again, didn't have to buy these, at least, not yesterday.

Each are ALL Natural, per the contents written on the label, except for the cheese, which is cheese product as I didn't feel like shredding and ruining good cheddar with all of this stuff smeared and poured over it. The "all natural" helps me justify eating this incredible load of junk that would clog my arteries if I ate it even three times a year.:faint:

My dog? She doesn't like football, so she gets her regular food. Maybe a chip or two added during the game. If I gave her these nachos fully dressed, we'd be in my vet's office tomorrow morning. THEN, I'd be contributing to the big SuperBowl investment number.

Grits
02-05-2012, 02:40 PM
Biggest day in American sports, and you guys are complaining about Matt Lauer, who'll get what 3 minutes?:lol:

HUSKER55
02-05-2012, 02:55 PM
ughhh...hey GRITS, line forms on the left...:D

socantra
02-05-2012, 06:40 PM
Biggest day in American sports, and you guys are complaining about Matt Lauer, who'll get what 3 minutes?:lol:
Who's complaining? :kiss:

maddog42
02-06-2012, 12:42 PM
While I prefer small businesses for many things, especially food, restuarants and diners, you have to remember that big business didn't start out big, it became big because the consumer was very satisfied with the product/service being offered.

Here's the history of Bass Pro:

The owner, John L. Morris, began his career in sporting goods with a fishing section in the back of a Brown Derby liquor store owned by his father, located in Springfield on the road to Table Rock Lake (http:///wiki/Table_Rock_Lake) and Branson, Missouri (http:///wiki/Branson,_Missouri). That small fishing department sold homemade bait and worms, proving popular enough that Bass Pro Shops incorporated in 1972. These homemade baits were so popular that many people wanted the opportunity to buy these when they had returned home. Thus began the Bass Pro Shops catalog first mailed in 1974. Soon, it became the world's largest mail order sporting goods store. In 1975, to meet the burgeoning demand for Bass Pro Shops exclusive products, American Rod and Gun was established. Acting as a separate wholesaling entity ARG serves more than 7,000 independently owned retail stores world wide. In 1977, Bass Pro Shops introduced the first fish-ready complete boat motor and trailer package with the Bass Tracker. In 1984, construction began on the Outdoor World Catalog Showroom in Springfield, Missouri (http:///wiki/Springfield,_Missouri). Big Cedar Lodge opened in 1988 on Table Rock Lake (http:///wiki/Table_Rock_Lake). In 1995, Bass Pro Shops Sportsman's Warehouse opened in Atlanta, Georgia (http:///wiki/Atlanta,_Georgia), its first store outside the state of Missouri (http:///wiki/Missouri). In November 2001, taking advantage of Outdoor World's popularity as a tourist destination, the Wonders of Wildlife (http:///wiki/Wonders_of_Wildlife) museum was opened next door to the store in Springfield.[1] (http:///#cite_note-0)[2] (http:///#cite_note-1)


I am not attacking Bass Pro as much as I am the OKC City council and the Oklahoma legislature. They gave Bass Pro an unfair advantage. I would often make a special trip to shop at Bass Pro when I was visiting my inlaws in Carthage. You are right that successfull small businesses often grow to Monster ones. Capitalism has its good and bad points, and I prefer it. Oklahoma does more work in trying to lure Big Business than it does to foster small business start-ups. When you help small businesses get started, about 90% of them will fail. Thats ok too, every once in a while you hit a home run
like Microsoft or Bass Pro.

Tom
02-06-2012, 12:50 PM
Oklahoma does more work in trying to lure Big Business than it does to foster small business start-ups. When you help small businesses get started, about 90% of them will fail. Thats ok too, every once in a while you hit a home run
like Microsoft or Bass Pro.

Then is makes economic sense to stay away fro the risky little guys and invest in the proven winners. Obama would have been wise to do this when be sunk half a bill into a proven losers only because he owed people in it favors. I wonder how much of his own money he put into that dead pig?