Wisconsin gets on concealed carry train

[JustRalph]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-wisconsin-swamped-by-concealedcarry-applications-20120102,0,4559147.story

[Robert Goren]

Guns must be the fad these days. I must admit that I considered getting one but decided it was not worth the hassle. We have had a bunch estranged boyfriends/husbands go into public places here (mostly in Omaha but a couple in Lincoln too) lately shooting to get to kill their exes. I have never seen anything like it. They must be putting something in to the bottled water.

[boxcar]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-wisconsin-swamped-by-concealedcarry-applications-20120102,0,4559147.story

I suspect other states will, as well. This NDAA law that was signed on the QT on New Year's Eve could well be the backdoor way of circumventing the 2nd Amendment, since there is enough ambiguity in the language that leaves the definition of "terrorists" or "terrorism" wide open.

This law was Obama's Christmas gift to his vision of America.

Boxcar

[TJDave]

As a certifiable gun nut who has a concealed carry permit I'd like to go on record by saying that wholesale CC permitting is a bad idea. It will get a lot of these folks and innocent bystanders killed. I prefer "open carry" and a vigorous training program coupled with some military and/or law enforcement experience.

[Grits]

RG, I don't believe handguns (or rifles) are a fad any longer. Not at the rate at which they are selling or at which concealed carry permits exist among states.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

[Robert Goren]

RG, I don't believe handguns (or rifles) are a fad any longer. Not at the rate at which they are selling or at which concealed carry permits exist among states.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/ I grew up on a farm in the 1950s. Every male over the age of 12 had a 22 rifle and a shotgun. Most adult men had several and a deer rifle too. Most farmers carried the 22 rifle in their pick up just in case they saw a coyote. Handguns were pretty rare. Like most kids then, my dad taught me to shoot. His dad taught him and he had been in WWII. He loved to hunt and he knew what he was doing. What worries me that a lot of the gun owners today aren't trained very well. I don't think a class or two at a gun range is enough. And they certainly take the place of many afternoons of pheasant hunting with someone who knows how to handle a gun and when to shoot and when not to.

[boxcar]

As a certifiable gun nut who has a concealed carry permit I'd like to go on record by saying that wholesale CC permitting is a bad idea. It will get a lot of these folks and innocent bystanders killed. I prefer "open carry" and a vigorous training program coupled with some military and/or law enforcement experience.


Yeah....got facts and figures to back that up? And besides, does it really matter -- concealed or open? What about the "nuts" who are faster on the draw and want to draw down on you to kill you? :rolleyes:

Your concern is misplaced. The government is the enemy, not your fellow gun toting citizens. You should be far more concerned about the designs the government has on abridging our Second Amendment rights. This country has been steadily been moving left for about last 100 years or so. I know of no communist or any modern communist-lite nation who allows its citizens to own guns, especially handguns, just as I don't know of any such nation that doesn't have socialized medicine. This the last huge hurdle the U.S. government must clear by hook or crook -- by any means possible -- to make America's socialist transformation complete.

Boxcar

[TJDave]

You should be far more concerned about the designs the government has on abridging our Second Amendment rights.

I am not in the least concerned about my 2nd amendment rights. ;)

It's all the others for which I can't defend myself. Those are the ones I lose sleep over.

[boxcar]

I am not in the least concerned about my 2nd amendment rights. ;)

It's all the others for which I can't defend myself. Those are the ones I lose sleep over.

Then have you considered renting in a monastery community? Or taking up cave-dwelling away from the civilized world? ;)

Boxcar

[TJDave]

Or taking up cave-dwelling away from the civilized world? ;)


Dude, I live about 1/2 of the year in California. You can't get more uncivilized than that.

[boxcar]

Dude, I live about 1/2 of the year in California. You can't get more uncivilized than that.

Dude, that's what I meant by "uncivilized". Unfortunately, the animals in the wild are more civilized than humans are. At least they kill only when they have to.

Boxcar

[bigmack]

Dude, I live about 1/2 of the year in California. You can't get more uncivilized than that.
Tell everyone where you spend the other half.

[TJDave]

Tell everyone where you spend the other half.

In a very civilized place.

Most Mexicans have more civility in their fingernail clippings than their north-of-the-border white trash cousins complete. Even the lowliest peasant uses "sir and mam", "good morning", and "please and thank you".