Being Pretty - Women of the Past

[cj's dad]

This link was sent to me by a good friend and I think for those of us in the 50-60 age range, it says a lot.

Read and comment if you choose.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/the-death-of-pretty

[bigmack]

While it's clear girls are dressing in a more provocative fashion, this line from the piece is the silliest thing I've ever read.

But here is the real truth. Most men prefer pretty over hot. Even back in 6th grade I hated the “hot” Olivia Newton John and felt sorry for her that she had to debase herself in such a way. Still do.
Debase, baby. Debase.
http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00170/Grease_170688t.jpg

[PhantomOnTour]

Somewhere in the mid to late 90's the style for American women & girls suddenly became 'dirty ho'

[dnlgfnk]

While it's clear girls are dressing in a more provocative fashion, this line from the piece is the silliest thing I've ever read.


Debase, baby. Debase.
http://www.independent.ie/multimedia/archive/00170/Grease_170688t.jpg

One has to understand the point of reference for the author, the NC Register...and myself-- The inner life of the Trinity that man is created to share in through grace.

Sex is a metaphor for the total self- donating love of the communion of Persons in the Trinity. "Debasing", objectifying, self- gratuitous attitudes and dress thwart this view of human dignity.

Perhaps the author should have stated, "Most men ought to prefer pretty over hot".

[bigmack]

One has to understand the point of reference for the author, the NC Register...and myself-- The inner life of the Trinity that man is created to share in through grace.

Sex is a metaphor for the total self- donating love of the communion of Persons in the Trinity. "Debasing", objectifying, self- gratuitous attitudes and dress thwart this view of human dignity.

Perhaps the author should have stated, "Most men ought to prefer pretty over hot".
Do tell? Well if that's the case you need to talk to our resident theologian. Are you familiar with the works of Boxcar? He has some notions about mini-skirts you might like.

[dnlgfnk]

No, it's my first foray into the off-topic themes.
I doubt I have anything he wants, and I'm guessing he doesn't have anything I want.

[thaskalos]

There is a reason why most men prefer the "pretty" women rather than the "hot" ones.

The hot women want nothing to do with most men.

So most men gravitate to the "pretty women"...mistaking their "innocence" for naivette...:)

And speaking of "hot"...the Russian women win by a landslide.

[plainolebill]

I'll take interesting and intelligent over 'pretty' or 'sexy' every time. Most of the celebrity sex symbols seem as shallow and dull as a coat of cheap paint.

[lamboguy]

this year we lost one of the most prettiest woman of all time, ELIZABETH TAYLOR. not only did she have the prettiest eyes that i have ever seen in a woman, but she had a heart made of solid gold.

god bless her soul.

[sandpit]

This is like looking at art or listening to music, each to their own taste. Personally, I'd rather see Hollywood filled with women that look like Natalie Wood rather than worn-out 20-somethings like Lindsay Lohan. On the flipside, I don't mind Scarlett Johansson's sultriness without being trampy style.

[dnlgfnk]

Lambo...

I guess you didn't get taken down on "The Pie".

[JustRalph]

the part about hotness being traded like a commodity says it all.

Pretty is everlasting in my opine. All commodities have a shelf life.

There is an inner and outer version of both pretty and hot.

Hot makes assumptions that pretty doesn't need.

[Sinner369]

What's that old saying?............Men prefer Hot looking girls for a date but they prefer the Pretty ones for wives.......!!!

But has anyone look at the men these days?.............terrible looking, scruffy, tatoos, earings.........they don't compare to men 20, 30, 40 years ago......!

[Greyfox]

this year we lost one of the most prettiest woman of all time, ELIZABETH TAYLOR. not only did she have the prettiest eyes that i have ever seen in a woman, but she had a heart made of solid gold.


Heart of gold? :rolleyes:
Tell that to Debbie Reynolds or Sybil Burton.
(Taylor enraptured both of their husbands. Taylor married 8 times, twice to Richard Burton.)

[thaskalos]

this year we lost one of the most prettiest woman of all time, ELIZABETH TAYLOR. not only did she have the prettiest eyes that i have ever seen in a woman, but she had a heart made of solid gold.

god bless her soul.
Did you know her Lambo?

[Bobzilla]

Personally, I'd rather see Hollywood filled with women that look like Natalie Wood rather than worn-out 20-somethings like Lindsay Lohan.

Man, couldn't agree with that line more. Natalie Wood's beauty was undeniably compelling. If we're only to consider physical appearance then she probably gets my support for the epitome of perfect female beauty. Her dad was from Vladivostok and her mom was from Siberia so maybe Thaskalos is on to something in regard to Russian women.

I think for the most part I agreed with the essance of the article posted by C.J.'s Dad. I read it to mean a few things, but mostly that "pretty" is not only from the appearance attribute with which most associate it but also from qualities such as modesty, innocence and virtue. A society where young women aspire to be pretty, rather than scorching tight-leather hot, brings out the best in its young men as well, calling on them to use their better judgement and to conduct themselves in a more virtuous way. This is what most men may instictively prefer but simply don't realize it fully because of the fog of daily pop-culture innundation. Men, by our nature, want something of value to honor and defend, not simply a commodity as suggested by the writer.

Ask 10 guys who they prefer, Ginger or Mary Ann? I bet Mary Ann wins. What would have been interesting is if that woud have been the same response if the actresses switched roles. In any event the great Ginger - Mary Ann debate of the past 40 decades may be touching on the theme of the article.

[BlueShoe]

Three modern fashion trends of today's so called "Hot Woman" that this old traditionalist finds disgusting, repulsive, and a total turn off:
1. Tattoos.
2. Breast enhancements.
3. Shaved pubic areas.

[johnhannibalsmith]

1. Tattoos.
2. Breast enhancements.
3. Shaved pubic areas.

4. Piercings anywhere but the ear.

[Grits]

the part about hotness being traded like a commodity says it all.

Pretty is everlasting in my opine. All commodities have a shelf life.

There is an inner and outer version of both pretty and hot.

Hot makes assumptions that pretty doesn't need.

You're such a wise man, and such a gentleman, JR. :kiss:

Pretty is at ease, comfortable.

Hot, on the other hand, has to work at it, and she knows it.

[Marshall Bennett]

4. Piercings anywhere but the ear.
5. Carrying their kid in a strap 6 inches below the hip.

[BlueShoe]

4. Piercings anywhere but the ear.
Must be slipping, old age and all that.:) Forgot about this one, yes indeed, almost as bad as tattoos. What is bad is that many women qualify on every one of the listed negative points. Will take an older woman that has kept her natural good figure every time over the younger one that has practiced self mutilation.

[JustRalph]

Hot, on the other hand, has to work at it, and she knows it.

Great line......very true.

Thanks .........

[bigmack]

3. Shaved pubic areas.
What is the point of this hair? I see very little purpose.

[PhantomOnTour]

What is the point of this hair? I see very little purpose.
Do you have hair down there?
If so, why? What is the purpose of it?

[nijinski]

:eek::eek::eek:
Not sure I wanna know all this information

[bigmack]

Do you have hair down there?
If so, why? What is the purpose of it?
Well, if you must know; no. Medical condition. :sleeping:

How 'bout you, Bub. You got hair on your keister? If so, what's that cultivation for?

[PhantomOnTour]

Well, if you must know; no. Medical condition. :sleeping:

How 'bout you, Bub. You got hair on your keister? If so, what's that cultivation for?
Keister? Do you mean butt?
You were referring to hair on women's butts?

[bigmack]

Anybody have a ball pein hammer handy?

[johnhannibalsmith]

From hot and beautiful to hairy assed in just two brief pages. I love this crew.

[BlueShoe]

What is the point of this hair? I see very little purpose.
Many men find a woman's pubic hair to be very erotic.:ThmbUp: "Full natural" or Classic triangle" can be very attractive. Just as some women find bald men to be attractive while others dislike baldness. :)

[Tom]

What is the point of this hair? I see very little purpose.
Ever been to NY in January?

[BlueShoe]

From hot and beautiful to hairy assed in just two brief pages. I love this crew.
:lol: Hey, a few of us are cutting down or even taking a full break from racing. That leaves plenty of time to stir the pot a bit and get creative over here on this forum.:D

[badcompany]

Many men find a woman's pubic hair to be very erotic.:ThmbUp: "Full natural" or Classic triangle" can be very attractive. :)

The 1970s just called. It wants its female "grooming" habits back.:ThmbDown:

[Grits]

A nice thread. Tanked.

For your little discussion on female pubic hair, may each of you find one in your dinner, tonight. Or, in your scrambled eggs tomorrow morning. And, may it remain firmly stuck in your front teeth for the next two weeks--no brushing, no flossing able to extract it.

Damn.

:mad: :blush: :mad:

[toetoe]

Two words (and an emoticon): Patricia Neal. :jump:

[thaskalos]

Two words (and an emoticon): Diane Lane :jump:

[Greyfox]

Two words (and an emoticon): Patricia Neal. :jump:

So the Genie delivers Patricia Neal to toe toe.

http://rightfashions.com/wp-content/photos/Patricia_Neal.jpg (http://rightfashions.com/?pp_album=main&pp_cat=&pp_image=Patricia_Neal.jpg)

[Dave Schwartz]

With apologies in advance to Miss Grits:

Hair is a lubricant. Somebody better have it or someone is going to feel pain. Anyone who has ever experienced hairless-to-hairless can tell you this. (No, I never had a secret film career. No, I will not discuss this any further.)


Signed,
Anonymous

[bigmack]

Mighty funny stuff floatin' around this thread. Lubricant? :lol: Deemed inappropriateness of subject matter wishing involvement without dental floss? :lol:

Throw away your lawn mowers. Throw away your hedge trimmers. Nature knows best. :eek:

Welcome to 1425AD.

[JustRalph]

A nice thread. Tanked.

:mad: :blush: :mad:

I have to agree.

[Grits]

Two words (and an emoticon): Patricia Neal. :jump:

"The Old Hag." Thank you, ToeToe, going on 3 years out, and you still got it for me, huh?

[Dave Schwartz]

A nice thread. Tanked.

That is a great quote.

:lol:

[keilan]

That is a great quote.

:lol:

haha doesn't beat "lubricant" ;)

[NJ Stinks]

The writer may as well have written that girls aren't sweet anymore.

I'm not buying the whole premise here.

If you want to lament the fact that women no longer pretend that saving their virginity is the most important thing going, go ahead if it suits you. If you want to lament tatoos and piercings, I understand where you are coming from. But to sit back and say young women today don't want to be pretty or don't aspire to some image this guy has of the perfect young woman seems like a load of rubbish.

I'll be damned if I can sit here and tell you what it is exactly that wins the "What Young Women Want Today Handicap". But Ugly won't be hitting the board any time soon. Meanwhile, Pretty Hot is currently 2-5 just like she was 40 years ago.

Having said the above, I must add I prefer the Natalie Wood/Elizabeth Taylor look too. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[bigmack]

Having said the above, I must add I prefer the Natalie Wood/Elizabeth Taylor look too.
I'm tryin' to think of what it's like for you married schmoes to say "I prefer a type." Kinda like declaring your preference for chocolates but you're a diabetic and can't touch 'em. :cool:

Hit it Hammie:

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[Grits]

I'm tryin' to think of what it's like for you married schmoes to say "I prefer a type." Kinda like declaring your preference for chocolates but you're a diabetic and can't touch 'em. :cool:


Mack, you're on the plus side of 50, honey, and you're chasing women all the time. Its your favorite sport, so to speak. You can certainly reel 'em in, too. ;) Men don't do well by themselves, they have difficulty being alone. I could count on three fingers the men I know who live alone, who remain alone. (ToeToe being one because women won't live in caves or tote firewood.)

The day men stop looking at women, whether they're married or not, is the day they're put in the ground! This is the way its been since the earth began turning on its axis. In other words, BEAUTY can be, solely, an appreciation thing. Men are content, they're happy with the BEAUTY who shares the same space under the same roof with them. (You should try this, Mack.) They may have chosen her decades ago, they may have chosen her 6 months to three years ago. Who knows? But they're happy and this is what matters.

One thing I do know without a doubt. Those one and two night stands you're braggin' 'bout? Your threeways? Most 50 something men left those in the rearview mirror awhile back.

Women who have as much brains as they have beauty don't go for men that tell the world "who and how many they've done". Most wouldn't give the time of day or their bodies to a man swinging his imagined 12 inch pole who can't keep his mouth shut. (The proverbial 10 foot pole is unusable and would be way out of proportion here.):lol:

Rest up, Mack. The hunt starts at dusk. Hopefully, tonight's babe is carrying her custom made gortex and corduroy condoms in her purse. She'll need 'em.

[thaskalos]

One thing I do know without a doubt. Those one and two night stands you're braggin' 'bout? Your threeways? Most 50 something men left those in the rearview mirror awhile back.


Yes...but believe me...

It wasn't "by choice"...:)

[Dave Schwartz]

Grits, a delicate diatribe... I am speechless.

:lol:

[bigmack]

Refresh your memory of the thread, Grits. You axed where I was and I answered honestly. You wouldn't want me to lie would you?

You don't honestly think I tell such things to mixed company in person do you?

I LOVE women. I've been in several long-term, committed, faithful, living in the same dwelling, relationships. With all due respect I certainly don't need you to dial me in on the nuances of life.

With few exceptions the women I've known will tell you that I'm a respectful, entertaining, caring, loving person to be with.

While much of my bluster is unnecessary for this joint, it is what it is.

Most of the geriatrics around here will go quietly into that good night. I'll have a ball up to the bitter end. :rolleyes:

[keilan]

That last post left everyone speechless. :rolleyes:

[canleakid]

"Beauty is how you feel inside, and it reflects in your eyes. It is not something physical"
Sophia Loren
and she still is Pretty and Caldo ;)

the rest of the XXX rated stuff :rolleyes:

[Grits]

My memory doesn't need refreshing. No, lying isn't good for anyone. I like your honesty, though it causes me to have to work to handle some of your tales and your trysts. Now and then, one can still be surprised by what men will tell.:faint:

I know you LOVE women. Its obvious. And 99.9% of the time, you keep me rolling in laughter. And I absolutely love laughing, its good for the soul. Women like men who make them laugh, that is if they've got sense enough to know when someone is humorous. This is not usually part of the skill set of dumb women, Mack. Most of those are more concerned about their hair and their cleavage.

bigmack said: With few exceptions the women I've known will tell you that I'm a respectful, entertaining, caring, loving person to be with.

And this doesn't surprise me one bit. I'm sorry if I angered you.

Its not quite dusk on your coast, still, I hope you have a good night.

Lord knows, 9 pm can't come quickly enough when you're my age. I'll sit here and read a bit more. I tire easily. (And if you believe this last one, my "a double ess" has beach front in Arkansas, darlin' !!!!):lol::lol::lol:

[bigmack]

And this doesn't surprise me one bit. I'm sorry if I angered you.
What a delightful post from yous. Class act. When I learned of your being an entrepreneur it wasn't in the least SIRprising.

Just returning from a lovely evening with a lovely woman. Cost WAY too much with shopping, local casino, Dave & Busters. Remind me to NEVER go there again. What is this place? I have a headache from all the noise.

But then a GREAT conversation on the way back & I PARKED! 'Old fashioned like' and we made-out. Must say. Nice. Nice.

Not anger, just dint want to appear cartoonish. (Fat chance)

Don't go changin', G. :ThmbUp:

[Grits]

Don't go changin', G. :ThmbUp:

Mack, I KNOW there's a song of this title. 70s, Billy Joel, I think.

Anway, I couldn't change if I even wanted to. Besides, I'm loved the way I am. Ask my mama and my daddy, they'll tell ya.:lol: (Even if no one else does.)

So, you went parking? Lord, its been a pretty long time since I've been parking. Sounds like a nice evening, glad you got to first base IN THE CAR!!!! LOLOLLLLLLLLLLL:lol:

Speaking of cars, remember the movie, "Turner and Hooch" with Tom Hanks? I laughed until, literally, tears rolled down my face. He goes in a store or somewhere, he comes out and he looks inside. He starts screaming his brains out. Turner had shredded the whole interior.

. . . . . "YOU ATE THE CAR"!

One of the best moments I've seen on film. Man, did I laugh. :lol: I wonder if its on DVD?

[Grits]

Mack, I just went to YOUTUBE. I saw parts of Turner and Hooch, but I don't see the scene where Hooch eats the car.:lol: The whole movie was so funny.

[bigmack]

Mack, I just went to YOUTUBE. I saw parts of Turner and Hooch, but I don't see the scene where Hooch eats the car.:lol: The whole movie was so funny.
I LOVE that film.

http://www.amazon.com/Turner-And-Hooch/dp/B003SHZKB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325892230&sr=8-1
Watch it now.
http://www.amazon.com/Turner-Hooch-Tom-Hanks/dp/B00005T7HZ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325892230&sr=8-2
DVD

HIYB7Bj2npk

[Grits]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol:

I swear, I swear, its the funniest movie that has ever been made!!!

Oh me, I'm laughing so hard, the neighbors can probably hear me. I've got tears in my eyes again. OOOoooohhhhh me.

HOOCH. I can just say his name and it makes me laugh.

Thanks, Mack. Thanks so much.

[PaceAdvantage]

I LOVE that film.No you don't...do you? :lol:

I think you're just being nice to Grits because she's of the fairer sex. :lol:

If I had made that comment about Turner and Hooch, you would have been cutting me up slice and dice in two seconds... :lol:

5.7 on IMDB and 62% on RT...no, I haven't seen it, but if you tell me that you actually did love it, I will... :lol:

[chickenhead]

I feel the need to pile on here...

First you go to Dave and Busters and you love Turner and Hooch. YOU ARE A BIG NERD, SIR. :lol: I say that with great affection.

[Grits]

No you don't...do you? :lol:

I think you're just being nice to Grits because she's of the fairer sex. :lol:

If I had made that comment about Turner and Hooch, you would have been cutting me up slice and dice in two seconds... :lol:

5.7 on IMDB and 62% on RT...no, I haven't seen it, but if you tell me that you actually did love it, I will... :lol:

Are you serious!! LOLOLLLLLLLLLL Why on earth would he bother to do such a thing, no one else, here, ever has.:lol:

You need to see the film, it IS funny, PA. It is.

[bigmack]

I'm, ahhh, a bit tied-up right now but PA & Chickster best hang on for a vigorous defense of T&H. Think about this until my return: Who cried when Old Yeller died?>

Furthermore, I went kickin' and screaming to D&B. BELIEVE ME, it twern't my choice but her demographic rolls that way.

Now I'll get back to watching this gawd awful 'chick flick' that we all have to do every now and then. :(

[Rookies]

Many men find a woman's pubic hair to be very erotic.:ThmbUp: "Full natural" or Classic triangle" can be very attractive. Just as some women find bald men to be attractive while others dislike baldness. :)

Separates on generational lines. Done some research...:D :rolleyes:

[bigmack]

Alright, perhaps LOVE was a bit strong for T&H. Particularly, capped.

It's a nice little flick though. Give it a whirl sometime. I think it belongs in one of the top 5 canine flicks.

Hanks on a stakeout with H goes into a jag about Lancelot Link. That ALONE is noteworthy.

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[johnhannibalsmith]

... I think it belongs in one of the top 5 canine flicks.

...

NUMBER 4


http://moviespics.wcgame.ru/data/2011-07-07/dog-movie.jpg

[PaceAdvantage]

Speaking of canine flicks, I recently came across this while browsing IMDB one day...never heard of it, but apparently it's a real tear jerker and got a great score on IMDB...stars Richard Gere, who is the last person I'd think to see in an emotional teary dog flick:

Hachi: A Dog's Tale
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1028532/

Anyone ever see it?

Man, talk about thread drift... :lol:

[Dave Schwartz]

Talk about thread drift... LOL

[johnhannibalsmith]

Talk about thread drift... LOL

It began with Pretty Women and ended with a Richard Gere movie... I thought it was kinda full circle... :D

[bigmack]

Hachi: A Dog's Tale
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1028532/
Never heard of it. Got it. Gonna watch it tonight with 4th G teach. She has 4 K9's. 3 Chihuahua's (one long-haired) & 1 yellow lab. Must say, Chihuahua's can be entertaining.

I'll be back mañana with a review. If it's a clunker, you're toast. :faint:

Good luck.

[cj's dad]

Talk about thread drift... LOL

PA ??

Can we close this ??

[bigmack]

I'll be back mañana with a review.
**SPOILER ALERT**

Man meets dog, they frolic for a couple years. Man dies, dog waits at train station for his return everyday for 9 YEARS! The end.

True story but done in a schmaltzy fashion.

4 stars of 10.

[PaceAdvantage]

Good thing I didn't read past the SPOILER ALERT...although I did catch your 4 of 10 rating, which is at odds with the IMDB 8 of 10 rating and RT's 4.1/5 audience rating....RT critic rating was only 5.7 out of 10...

[badcompany]

Cheryl Casone of Fox Business is a "Today" woman who has alot of classic qualities.

http://video.foxnews.com/thumbnails/112211/640/360/112211_ff_casone_640.jpg