Betting with Bridgejumpers

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I love the post(s) that the guys have going on betting against Bridgejumpers.

I want to start one with $1,000 pot and make some show bets on potential bridgejumpers and see if I can grow it.

We shall see how it goes. All plays go only if there is show betting. In general I will do these ahead of time and not wait until the last minute or until some show % has been met. I will not use the other posts to find my plays, just my own information.

We will start today in the 1st at Parx.

I will place $140 show on #1 Sejano

Good luck to all, even those playing against my 'jumpers'

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Bad start, bankroll at $860

In the 5th at Parx we will try to get a tiny bit back.

$260 show on #2 Ballistic Sue

[RunForTheRoses]

It is harder then you think, that is one slip up and kaput. I remember at the track I worked at one guy had worked his bankroll up to about $80K. He bet Genetleman in a small field ca. 1998 in Cali. Took a half hour to count the money. Gentleman ran fourth.
I guess one way to avoid disaster is to take some profit out once in a while.

[lamboguy]

its 100 times easier today than it was years ago. today you have pace figures that if anything are at their best for show players. you also have fields that are small with 1 or 2 horses with no chance.. if you think you are going to bet for $2.10 on horses that might have pace pressure you will lose for sure.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Well, I have a debt to make up - will be a struggle, but I'll try.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

#6 Point of View

Try $160 show

[lamboguy]

#6 Point of View

Try $160 show
this horse got a big scratch with the 11 out of the race

but still this horse needs to make the lead off a layoff. if anything he is a better win bet than show.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Horse ran 3rd.

I don't want $3.20 payoffs in general.

I will slow down, make fewer plays.

Bankroll at $696

[lamboguy]

that horse should be tough next time out

[Rigger]

I only just read bridgejumpers. If you are trying to garner a high roi on a show bet or even place......should your program/handicapping, first tell you that the odd's on favorite will not be in the money and then bet your picks?

[Robert Goren]

I think most people who are bridgejumpers are looking for the horse that can't lose ever and then bet it to show as insurance. They are looking for the sure, quick 5% return on their money.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I'll try $96 show on the #2 in the first at Gulfstream.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Bankroll at $705.60

[iceknight]

I love the post(s) that the guys have going on betting against Bridgejumpers.

I want to start one with $1,000 pot and make some show bets on potential bridgejumpers and see if I can grow it.

We shall see how it goes. All plays go only if there is show betting. In general I will do these ahead of time and not wait until the last minute or until some show % has been met. I will not use the other posts to find my plays, just my own information.

We will start today in the 1st at Parx.

I will place $140 show on #1 Sejano

Good luck to all, even those playing against my 'jumpers'

This is an interesting premise.. You can MAKE any horse a bridgejumper by taking the favorite or next favorite (a horse hitting the board in 1 or 2 always) and then bet a LARGE show bet on it. Voila.. you have created a bridgejumper at any small track!

[Phantombridgejumpe]

large show bets post, not really a bridgejumper post.

But, whatever...

Only other play today...

4th at Hawthorne...$100 Show on the #1

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I need some easier finishes!

[Phantombridgejumpe]

One play today - 4th at Gulf #2 $210 to show

[ByeByeBuck]

It's been a very bad year for bridgejumpers, worst I've ever seen. Whether that trend will continue or not I have no clue...maybe in 2012 no bridgejumper horse will run out of the money? :)

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Made $21 today

[ByeByeBuck]

Made $21 today

Glad you won, but the 3rd race at Gulfstream was a classic bridgejumper lock - five horse field with two horses that were hopelessly outclassed.

It doesn't happen too often but that was a race where you could double bridgejump and bet two locks in the show pool. And if the bigger bet lock runs out, you make nice money on the other lesser bet lock. If the lesser bet lock runs out, the bigger bet lock should pay more than $2.10 and you get some of that money back. If something else happens, well that's bridgejumping for you. :)

[ByeByeBuck]

Yea, I know, a double bridgejump - I've gone stark raving mad, I admit it. :D

[Phantombridgejumpe]

$100 show on the 3 in the 4th race.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Race 1 Santa

#6 Show $400

[Phantombridgejumpe]

But that is bad for me. Bankroll at $651.60

[Phantombridgejumpe]

8th at Parx $150 show on #2.

Good Luck

[Phantombridgejumpe]

at a scary sounding $666.60

[Phantombridgejumpe]

$260 show on #6 in the 5th at Tampa

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Got my $13

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Don't see much today, Thursday 12/29

Try one small one, 7th race at Aqueduct #6 Ginger Snapit

Lets put $40 show on that one.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Bankroll at $695.60

Today at Aqu I might not even have the favorite in the race, but with the bug boy I think #4 in the 8th should hit the board.

$200 show #4 in the 8th (Glickman)

[Phantombridgejumpe]

So the balance is $825.60

no plays today

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Lets go $260 show

[Phantombridgejumpe]

$838.60 bankroll now

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I'll go $138 to show.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

$6.90 profit (don't spend it all in one place)

Added to my $838.60 is now $845.50

[Phantombridgejumpe]

4th at Laurel, #6, $240 to show

Good luck

[Phantombridgejumpe]

$857.50 - getting closer to even

[Phantombridgejumpe]

3rd race there are 2 possible horses (in a short field). I'll try the #3 for $300 show

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Took a bath at Aqu, also 1/5 try the 2 in the 7th at Santa.

On tilt, perhaps, but go $500 show

[Phantombridgejumpe]

New bankroll: $607.50

[Phantombridgejumpe]

6th at AQU: #1 Show, $340

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Made the $17

[OCHO]

I respect your show bets but risking 340 for a gain of 17 is just not worth it,try 20 dollar exactas. Good luck and ill keep watching your.progress

[Midnight Cruiser]

Phantom, whadaya gunna do when your bankroll is at zero. Is this one of dem reality threads?

Wait, I allready know, a phantom bridgejump?

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Penn, race 5, #10 $100 show.

I can't say any of you are wrong so far, but the guys betting against them (bridgejumpers) weren't making any money either.

See where I am in another month, if it as $0 I'll be upset.

[Midnight Cruiser]

Penn, race 5, #10 $100 show.

I can't say any of you are wrong so far, but the guys betting against them (bridgejumpers) weren't making any money either.

See where I am in another month, if it as $0 I'll be upset.

im just givin you a hard time :)

[Midnight Cruiser]

just a reminder, this is a Bridgejumping or phantombridgejumping thread. we now resume our regular programming...

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Just one play today...

3rd at Santa - #4 $400 to show

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I'll see if I have anything today

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Smallish ones, and doing this before scratches so not sure if both will go. This is not a parlay!

2nd Race: $150 Show on #4
3rd Race: $200 Show on #6

[Phantombridgejumpe]

2nd race hit for $30 profit
3rd race was a scratch

New Balance: $704.50

[Phantombridgejumpe]

3 in the 3rd at Parx today...

$300 Show

[Phantombridgejumpe]

and made the $15 for today.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Wow, it was a slow day on this board.

For tomorrow I'll try $300 show on the 5 in the 3rd at Parx.

I'll update Thursday.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

paid $2.20 to show).

For Thursday, at Aqu, The 1 entry in the 3rd ONLY IF BOTH PARTS RUN - $300 Show on the #1

[Phantombridgejumpe]

New Balance is $764.50

[Phantombridgejumpe]

With the scratches I'll do the #4 in the first at AQU in 10 minutes or so.

$260 to show.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

try to stay patient.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I think Little Lil will get some HEAVY show play today at Aqu - the 3 in the 3rd.

I'm going to stay away, here is why...

Could be a speed duel
Could just be a prep race
There could be an entry in here - and 1/2 to soften up the favorite
She was not the favorite last time (although it was impressive)
It is Friday the 13th

I'm going to watch from the sidelines today.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

4th at Aqu, $400 Show on #8

[Phantombridgejumpe]

$797.50 is the balance. Making it back near even...

[Phantombridgejumpe]

3 in the 3rd at AQU: $330 Show

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I'll have to start the climb over $467.50

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Parx, 1st race, $260 show on the #3

[mistergee]

hi Phantom, been following along with you. What would happen if you threw out any horse with a good record dropping in class, just curious

[lamboguy]

how about all he needs to do is not play horses that have more than 5 qurin points to show?

[mistergee]

how about all he needs to do is not play horses that have more than 5 qurin points to show?
Are the Quirin pts the speed points? Are you saying stay away from front speed to show?

[lamboguy]

Are the Quirin pts the speed points? Are you saying stay away from front speed to show?
what in gods name do you need a need the lead type to get a return of $2.10 to show to begin with?

if that type of horse is going to be on the board, he will win at least 7 out of 10 times that he runs 1-2-3.

if you want to bet races like that to show, you are better off following the "bet against bridgejumper's" thread.

even in show betting, pace makes the race.

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Obviously a bad couple of days, will have to start the climb from just over $200.

Will I ever get it over $1,000? Doesn't look good, but those guys in the other post weren't showing a profit last I checked either? Of course their ROI is probably better than 20%.

Like I said, UGH!

[lamboguy]

Obviously a bad couple of days, will have to start the climb from just over $200.

Will I ever get it over $1,000? Doesn't look good, but those guys in the other post weren't showing a profit last I checked either? Of course their ROI is probably better than 20%.

Like I said, UGH!they have no chance to win, you at least are on the right side of the proposition. you have to learn how to be more selective on your plays. if you want to play need the lead horses to show, you will lose too.

[mistergee]

one thing i would do if you are so inclined to try to catch these is only play the tracks where the minimm payoff is $2.20

[Phantombridgejumpe]

even more 'busts'

For toda, 1/18 $150 show on #2 in the 3rd at Tampa

[iceknight]

Obviously a bad couple of days, will have to start the climb from just over $200.

Will I ever get it over $1,000? Doesn't look good, but those guys in the other post weren't showing a profit last I checked either? Of course their ROI is probably better than 20%.

Like I said, UGH!

Phantom, I am not sure if your ROI is at 20% (from what you seem to be implying). Your ROI is right now close -80% is you are at $ 200 bankroll. You started with $ 1000 (investment) and right now you are at $ 200, right? Unless I missed something in the last five pages of the thread where you took out your initial capital. Have seen you post good picks (esp at Remington) - pick3/4 's etc.. so I am not sure why you putting all the money into Show wagering when you could spread the same bankroll on well analyzed pick3 or trifectas.. with discipline of course..
Good luck racing !!

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I was using 20% to mean I have 20% of what I started with. So our math (your -80%, and my 20% agree). I guess my term isn't ROI, it should be remaining portion of original (or something catchy like that).

So my math was correct, my use of the term was incorrect - oddly enough having the math wrong would bug me a lot more.

[iceknight]

I was using 20% to mean I have 20% of what I started with. So our math (your -80%, and my 20% agree). I guess my term isn't ROI, it should be remaining portion of original (or something catchy like that).

So my math was correct, my use of the term was incorrect - oddly enough having the math wrong would bug me a lot more.
Ah cool!! Guess you could use the term.. "remaining pot?" or bankroll works!! Hey, I am wishing you good luck man.. seriously, like they say:: go big or...

Bet smaller amounts, but bet them on solid tri's or exactas with overlay horses in them.. You will WIN big! and go over $1000 from this 200.. Go Phantom!!
This Jan, i was down to my last $ 6.80 and I was very strong on principle not to add more.. Then I played a $1 tri box and won 27 or so.
Similary last time when my bankroll dipped to $5, I played WP on a 12-1 and the horse won! (Yvette Sangalo).. I am saying this not to redboard but to say that "fortune favors the brave" and the odd thing I make such good bets only when I am low on cash. Other times I play conservative PL /SH and dont make much.. I am becoming a win better bettor now!

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I'll do my bankroll after today - 1/19...1st at AQU, $120 Show on #8

[Phantombridgejumpe]

Might throw in the towel soon...

[Phantombridgejumpe]

TOnight at C-Town (1/19)

3rd race, all $95 show on the 5...if that comes in...

6th race, put it all show on the 6...if that comes in...

9th race, put it all show on the 1