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Tom
11-29-2011, 01:17 PM
52,000 on the NYS website.
How many welfare checks would we eliminate?
OWS should be forced to log on.

skate
11-29-2011, 02:17 PM
welpp...i can say this without even looking and i'd be correct.

Trucking industry Still goes begging for help, long haul companys will pay you to join, color tvs(:lol: ), $500 or more, free training...whatever.


that's how they make their Money, Training=$...yes sir.;)

bigmack
11-29-2011, 03:18 PM
What are all these unemployed people doing?

BlueShoe
11-29-2011, 03:42 PM
What are all these unemployed people doing?
Many of them are sitting on their behinds at home cashing those unemployment checks. Only when they are about to run out do these drones actually make a serious effort to find work. 99ers can have it pretty good for almost two years at the taxpayers expense. There are of course many out of work persons that are making sincere dedicated efforts to find work, but there are just too many that are working the system.

Tom
11-29-2011, 03:48 PM
What are all these unemployed people doing?

Occupying Wall Street and whining that I make too much money working.

bigmack
11-29-2011, 04:20 PM
Be a bag boy for Greenpeace. Get medical, dental, vision, 401K, paid vacation, sick pay & start @ 13clams/hr.

They're independent of corporate money. Aren't they a Corp with 401K's & insurance?

http://images.greenpeaceusa.org/Frontline/SanDiego_Coal_Ad.jpg

mostpost
11-29-2011, 05:35 PM
52,000 on the NYS website.
How many welfare checks would we eliminate?
OWS should be forced to log on.
Candidates must be able to spell "galore"

newtothegame
11-29-2011, 05:39 PM
Candidates must be able to spell "galore"
Tom isn't applying!! :lol:

newtothegame
11-29-2011, 05:48 PM
Candidates must be able to spell "galore"

Fom YOUR post #29 on the following pace link...
"Several of the clips could be describes as "who cares?"

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89135&page=2&pp=15 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89135&page=2&pp=15)

Should have been DESCRIBED......

Now I understand why you couldn't apply for one of those "jobs". And Mike wonders why you catch grief for your postal prowess...lol

You really should think twice before you start correcting others grammar!

nijinski
11-29-2011, 05:57 PM
In all fairness many of the seasoned folks are not getting rehired . The younger ones still living at home can make it or take two part time jobs for now.
When my large practice went through a transition and the specialists left , five of us were cut. Four out of the five including myself are taking the pt and or per diem work , no benefits offered . There are jobs as these offered but making ends meet is not easy.
I feel for those who have some health issues and were let go just before reaching age sixty . their resumes are going into the trash can .
It's not a pretty picture for all , but I agree there are some sitting on their
butts , but there are many quickly sinking.

cj's dad
11-29-2011, 06:35 PM
Candidates must be able to spell "galore"

You really are the most pitiful person posting here.

Grits
11-29-2011, 06:42 PM
In all fairness many of the seasoned folks are not getting rehired . The younger ones still living at home can make it or take two part time jobs for now.
When my large practice went through a transition and the specialists left , five of us were cut. Four out of the five including myself are taking the pt and or per diem work , no benefits offered . There are jobs as these offered but making ends meet is not easy.
I feel for those who have some health issues and were let go just before reaching age sixty . their resumes are going into the trash can .
It's not a pretty picture for all , but I agree there are some sitting on their
butts , but there are many quickly sinking.

Your post may not be about fairness, Nijinski, as much as it may be about reality, and it kinda quietened and stilled the room didn't it?

Its easy to sit back and blanket a part of the population as lazy, slovenly, and working the unemployment system when one is not part of the reality of the jobless. When one is not worried about how they're going to meet all of their monthly payments. When one has a job with benefits and is not in the position (by no fault of your own) that you've been placed in. I find your struggle devastating.

Its all been said, most drawing the same conclusion.

One can only wonder about others here who are presently without work, or their work is sparse, and they're trying to make ends meet while feeling, too, that they are sinking. Sure takes courage to speak up. You're strong.:(

If I recall, you're in nursing, and you've been in it how many years?

bigmack
11-29-2011, 07:07 PM
Your post may not be about fairness, Nijinski, as much as it may be about reality, and it kinda quietened and stilled the room didn't it?

Its easy to sit back and blanket a part of the population as lazy, slovenly, and working the unemployment system when one is not part of the reality of the jobless. When one is not worried about how they're going to meet all of their monthly payments.
Oh please. The thread is about the fact there are many jobs available. You really think people aren't sympathetic to those who are out of work or even more astonishing, that people aren't using the system with 99 weeks of unemployment checks coming in?

nijinski
11-29-2011, 07:34 PM
Your post may not be about fairness, Nijinski, as much as it may be about reality, and it kinda quietened and stilled the room didn't it?

Its easy to sit back and blanket a part of the population as lazy, slovenly, and working the unemployment system when one is not part of the reality of the jobless. When one is not worried about how they're going to meet all of their monthly payments. When one has a job with benefits and is not in the position (by no fault of your own) that you've been placed in. I find your struggle devastating.

Its all been said, most drawing the same conclusion.

One can only wonder about others here who are presently without work, or their work is sparse, and they're trying to make ends meet while feeling, too, that they are sinking. Sure takes courage to speak up. You're strong.:(

If I recall, you're in nursing, and you've been in it how many years?
Thank You Grits , over 22 years at least and I've done Med Tech , Assisting and Admin. Few X-Rays and Bone Density . On site testing took a hit and as well the surgical procedures where payments were cut in half .
Talk about lazy , the youngsters that work there now won't work a minute more than there 8 hour shift and I've seen one bail out during a phone triage.
You get what you pay for but unfortunately it's the family in need of healthcare that suffers as well.
I do insane hours per diem in Histology /Path lab until something better comes up. But honestly they prefer to hire part time here.

newtothegame
11-29-2011, 07:45 PM
Your post may not be about fairness, Nijinski, as much as it may be about reality, and it kinda quietened and stilled the room didn't it?

Its easy to sit back and blanket a part of the population as lazy, slovenly, and working the unemployment system when one is not part of the reality of the jobless. When one is not worried about how they're going to meet all of their monthly payments. When one has a job with benefits and is not in the position (by no fault of your own) that you've been placed in. I find your struggle devastating.

Its all been said, most drawing the same conclusion.

One can only wonder about others here who are presently without work, or their work is sparse, and they're trying to make ends meet while feeling, too, that they are sinking. Sure takes courage to speak up. You're strong.:(


If I recall, you're in nursing, and you've been in it how many years?
Grits, you've jumped the gun a bit here. NJINSKI's post didnt quiet anything. It wasnt even an hour when you made that comment......(not sure how a topic that hasnt been replied too in less than an hour, qualifies as quieting anything).
NJ makes som valid points...there are people out there who are out of work not by their own choosing. But, if you wish for anyone to accept that fact, you also have to accept the fact there are others who abuse the system.
Next, I will also tell you as a manager, I see plenty of people who have lost their jobs and come looking for employment. Problem is, they have to be willing to take (sometimes) huge cuts from what they may have previously made.
An example is a friend who recently lost her job as an apartment complex general manager. Substantial wages to say the least. There are very few places she can go to regain those same wages. She will have a few options..1. Take a substantial cut in another industry
2. Completely change her lifestyle....
3. Take a substantial cut and go on state assistance.....
This is a point that was not addressed as well as I think it should have. Now the libs here will tell you that jobs shouldnt pay so little. Jobs pay what the market dictates. There is no other way. Libs would make an argument that this is why government regulation is needed. I will tell you it already is by the minimum wage laws. Mosty and NJ ight even tell you about unionization....and I will gladly point to GM not too mention the countless videos and stories of "unionization" and its affects.
So, what is the solution? Keeping in mind the start of this thread was based on 52,000 jobs AVAILABLE.......And that was NY I believe.
I wonder what the advertising for jobs available nationwide is? How about in relation to those "unemployed?

Grits
11-29-2011, 07:45 PM
Oh please. The thread is about the fact there are many jobs available. You really think people aren't sympathetic to those who are out of work or even more astonishing, that people aren't using the system with 99 weeks of unemployment checks coming in?

OK, Mack, you see what Nijinski's going through with a 22+ year career in nursing!!!

How about going back to the threads and the posts of recent months and locate all of the ones that speak of concern, or even sympathy, for the jobless and those struggling.

Find the ones that really pile it on for those who've tried, gone to job fairs, taken jobs far from their previous fields at lesser salary (other than Tom) sent out resume' after resume'. Fact is--you'll be looking a mighty long time.

Oh please, yourself.

bigmack
11-29-2011, 08:01 PM
OK, Mack, you see what Nijinski's going through with a 22+ year career in nursing!!!

How about going back to the threads and the posts of recent months and locate all of the ones that speak of concern, or even sympathy, for the jobless and those struggling.

Find the ones that really pile it on for those who've tried, gone to job fairs, taken jobs far from their previous fields at lesser salary (other than Tom) sent out resume' after resume'. Fact is--you'll be looking a mighty long time.

22 or 60 years guarantees nothing. Anyone could be canned tomorrow. That's the fact.

As for consolation & concern this ain't a counseling service. Life is tough. Ya gotta be tougher than what life throws you.

Sympathy & caring don't go very far. Hitting the pavement and making a job out of finding a job often amounts to positive results.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/LE-AA152_MISMAT_NS_20111020134804.jpg

Grits
11-29-2011, 08:13 PM
Mack, your charts are nifty. You're real good at quickly throwing these up.

As for consolation & concern this ain't a counseling service. Life is tough. Ya gotta be tougher than what life throws you.

And as far as this pearl of wisdom. NO SHIT?

bigmack
11-29-2011, 08:24 PM
And as far as this pearl of wisdom. NO SHIT?
Ooooooo. Ya got me there, partnerette.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/96.gif

Just appeared you was makin' everybody out as cold hearted momo's.

I just wanted to go on record as saying perhaps I'm one but picking on others is out o' line. :liar:

newtothegame
11-29-2011, 08:28 PM
So grits, here is a serious question......If Tom is posting the available Jobs in his area, and Mack is posting facts (although hard hitting), what else is it that people who are unemployed want? And, no I am not directing this at NJINSKI. I am just asking an honest question. The friend I mentioned in my post that lost her job, after a week I was doing all the googling, job searches, getting fax numbers etc etc. I had to finally ask her and myself...who was looking for this job? Me or Her?
That does not mean I do not feel for her plight. Reality is she most likely wont find a job that paid as her previous one had. But, that does not provide her the right to curl up in the fetal position and give up. I know you know this as I can see your intellect from your previous post here as in other threads...that's why I asked the serious question above....

Grits
11-29-2011, 09:22 PM
Grits, you've jumped the gun a bit here. NJINSKI's post didnt quiet anything. It wasnt even an hour when you made that comment......(not sure how a topic that hasnt been replied too in less than an hour, qualifies as quieting anything).
NJ makes som valid points...there are people out there who are out of work not by their own choosing. But, if you wish for anyone to accept that fact, you also have to accept the fact there are others who abuse the system.
Next, I will also tell you as a manager, I see plenty of people who have lost their jobs and come looking for employment. Problem is, they have to be willing to take (sometimes) huge cuts from what they may have previously made.
An example is a friend who recently lost her job as an apartment complex general manager. Substantial wages to say the least. There are very few places she can go to regain those same wages. She will have a few options..1. Take a substantial cut in another industry
2. Completely change her lifestyle....
3. Take a substantial cut and go on state assistance.....
This is a point that was not addressed as well as I think it should have. Now the libs here will tell you that jobs shouldnt pay so little. Jobs pay what the market dictates. There is no other way. Libs would make an argument that this is why government regulation is needed. I will tell you it already is by the minimum wage laws. Mosty and NJ ight even tell you about unionization....and I will gladly point to GM not too mention the countless videos and stories of "unionization" and its affects.
So, what is the solution? Keeping in mind the start of this thread was based on 52,000 jobs AVAILABLE.......And that was NY I believe.
I wonder what the advertising for jobs available nationwide is? How about in relation to those "unemployed?

NTTG, I didn't see your post earlier, and now you've added another. I'm sorry, you think I jumped the gun. I read the posts by each of the individuals you name, I just rarely comment on any of them. That is, until tonight, when "struggling" is someone I know on this website. Struggling is someone who stepped forward to comment and remind others, that no, not everyone is lazy.

I don't argue political parties or their agenda. Not ever. I'm aware of everthing that's going on in this country as much as each man here. This includes the options of the unemployed, what they face and what changes they may have to make, etc. Because I don't argue this stuff, please, don't be mistaken and believe I'm unaware.

I also have never discussed my work here. Not ever and don't intend to start, except to note the following. Like you, I understand management, at least I'm told such, anyway, by my employees--including the hirings, salary scale, job descriptions, reviews, vacations, bonuses, workmen's compensation claims, terminations, etc. I've done it all since 1988 when I went into business for myself. I employee 30 to 40 people, some of whom have been with me for over 20 years. This is a lot of years of up and down economic times and a lot of years of hiring.

Regarding your friend, NTTG, she'll tire of her fetal position, if she has any self worth, any desire to keep pushing. Though she won't as long as you are doing her job hunting for her, so you were smart to realize you were the one enabling her. Let her lay there, let her lay right there until you walk out the door and don't come back.

As far as my intellect, you're right on that one, too. Its as sharp as either one of you, gentlemen, all day. May be even sharper than some. Think about it, if it weren't how would I have been able to remain a successful businesswoman for 24 years? .:kiss:

sammy the sage
11-29-2011, 09:38 PM
NTTG, I didn't see your post earlier, and now you've added another. I'm sorry, you think I jumped the gun. I read the posts by each of the individuals you name, I just rarely comment on any of them. That is, until tonight, when "struggling" is someone I know on this website. Struggling is someone who stepped forward to comment and remind others, that no, not everyone is lazy.

I don't argue political parties or their agenda. Not ever. I'm aware of everthing that's going on in this country as much as each man here. This includes the options of the unemployed, what they face and what changes they may have to make, etc. Because I don't argue this stuff, please, don't be mistaken and believe I'm unaware.

I also have never discussed my work here. Not ever and don't intend to start, except to note the following. Like you, I understand management, at least I'm told such, anyway, by my employees--including the hirings, salary scale, job descriptions, reviews, vacations, bonuses, workmen's compensation claims, terminations, etc. I've done it all since 1988 when I went into business for myself. I employee 30 to 40 people, some of whom have been with me for over 20 years. This is a lot of years of up and down economic times and a lot of years of hiring.

Regarding your friend, NTTG, she'll tire of her fetal position, if she has any self worth, any desire to keep pushing. Though she won't as long as you are doing her job hunting for her, so you were smart to realize you were the one enabling her. Let her lay there, let her lay right there until you walk out the door and don't come back.

As far as my intellect, you're right on that one, too. Its as sharp as either one of you, gentlemen, all day. May be even sharper than some. Think about it, if it weren't how would I have been able to remain a successful businesswoman for 24 years? .:kiss:

I'am having a shot of 18 yr old scotch in toast of that elequent PUT-IN-YOUR -PLACE boys post :lol:

Well done Grits!

mostpost
11-29-2011, 09:56 PM
Fom YOUR post #29 on the following pace link...
"Several of the clips could be describes as "who cares?"

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89135&page=2&pp=15 (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89135&page=2&pp=15)

Should have been DESCRIBED......

Now I understand why you couldn't apply for one of those "jobs". And Mike wonders why you catch grief for your postal prowess...lol

You really should think twice before you start correcting others grammar!

I wasn't correcting Tom's grammar-I don't even know the lady-I was correcting him.

Now if I can rib Tom about his spelling (or typing), I should be able to take it when you do the same to me. :ThmbUp:

newtothegame
11-30-2011, 12:08 AM
:ThmbUp: I wasn't correcting Tom's grammar-I don't even know the lady-I was correcting him.

Now if I can rib Tom about his spelling (or typing), I should be able to take it when you do the same to me. :ThmbUp:
Sometimes a little humor helps us all along our paths ....:ThmbUp:

nijinski
11-30-2011, 12:37 AM
Just trying to point out what's happening and what I'm seeing. The job I have
at present is not what I expected to find after a layoff . It's alot tougher making ends meet.
There are many more in worse shape , much worse . The job postings and statistics are extremely misleading . Let's just hope it improves in the near
future.