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rwwupl
11-16-2011, 10:13 PM
CHRB News Release...

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/press_releases/2011_11_16_press_release.pdf

CALIFORNIA OWNERS GROUPS REACH ACCORD,

SET CONDITIONS FOR ELECTION OF DIRECTORS
SACRAMENTO, CA – The two thoroughbred owners’ organizations in California reached an agreement Wednesday between themselves and the California Horse Racing Board whereby after certain conditions are met, the Thoroughbred Owners of California (TOC) will conduct an election for all seats on its Board of Directors, and all California thoroughbred owners will be eligible to vote in that election regardless of whether they hold a second license in some other occupational category.
Provided the current voting members of the TOC first approve several bylaw changes, the open election for all 15 seats on the TOC Board will begin February 1, 2012, with votes accepted through March 1. This election would eliminate the need for a separate election on the proposed decertification of the TOC as the organization officially representing thoroughbred owners in California.
“We’re pleased that both sides have come together with a reasonable solution,” said CHRB Chairman Keith Brackpool, who hosted several meetings with representatives of the two groups in an effort to bring them closer together. “With this issue behind us and the industry working in greater harmony, we hope to resolve other pressing issues as the new year progresses.”
“The TOC is glad that this matter is resolved and urges all its members to support the proposal,” said TOC Chairman Jack Owens, who – like all TOC board members – will voluntarily step down under the agreement to allow for the election of all seats on the board. Owens and the other current directors will be eligible to run for the open seats.
“The CTHA’s primary goal was to end the discriminatory and exclusionary policies of the TOC and provide free and open elections, so that California thoroughbred owners would be able to choose how they are represented. That goal has been achieved through this negotiated settlement,” said David Wilson, president of the California Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association (CTHA), the newly formed horsemen’s group that submitted a petition to the CHRB in August to begin the TOC decertification process. Under the agreement, the CTHA will name up to 10 candidates on the election ballot.
Now that agreement has been reached, the next step in the process will be for the CHRB to approve proposed amendments to the TOC bylaws designed to expand the membership of the TOC and diversify its Board of Directors and Executive Committee. The Board will consider this matter at the November 17 meeting.
If the racing commissioners approve the bylaw amendments, the TOC will begin disseminating ballots on November 23 to its current voting membership asking them to approve the bylaw changes. That voting will conclude December 27.
The February election can only take place if the TOC membership first approves the proposed bylaw amendments. A rejection of those bylaw changes would automatically restart the TOC decertification process. In such a case, the CHRB would begin disseminating decertification election ballots on or before January 30, 2012. Decertification voting would continue through February 29.
The five proposed bylaw changes fall into two categories. The first category pertains to membership in the TOC. The current bylaws contain certain restrictions on membership. Current TOC members will be asked to open the membership – with full voting rights – without restriction to any person licensed by the CHRB as an owner of a thoroughbred racehorse.
The second category pertains to membership on the TOC Board of Directors and Executive Committee. One of the bylaw changes would create two classes of members. The Owner Class would consist of thoroughbred owners who are not licensed by the CHRB to train horses. The Owner/Trainer Class would consist of thoroughbred owners who also are licensed as trainers or who may be the spouse of a trainer. Under proposed bylaw amendments, members in the Owner/Trainer Class and their spouses can run for up to 40 percent of the seats on the TOC Board of Directors (six of the 15 seats), and at least one of the five directors serving on the Executive Committee must be in the Owner/Trainer Class. At least one of the Owner/Trainer Class directors must be from Northern California and at least one must be from Southern California, as opposed to all six being from one part of the state.

Mike Marten, CHRB.

jelly
11-16-2011, 10:27 PM
The CHRB announced the agreement Nov. 16, stating that after certain conditions are met the Thoroughbred Owners of California “will conduct an election for all seats on its board of directors, and all California Thoroughbred owners will be eligible to vote in that election regardless of whether they hold a second license in some other occupational category.”


Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/66236/agreement-reached-between-california-groups#ixzz1dvh3PcYh

Dave Schwartz
11-16-2011, 10:56 PM
IMHO, this horse is already out of the barn.

FenceBored
11-17-2011, 09:27 AM
bump.

andymays
11-17-2011, 09:32 AM
On one hand an agreement is good and the TOC will make some significant changes and the controversy is probably over.

On the other hand there was some significant wrongdoing on the Part of the CHRB and guys like Lou Raffetto who intentionally lied while calling petitioners to get them to withdraw their petitions. The CHRB had absolutely no business giving the TOC that list.

The CTHA should have toughed it out a little longer. They were on the verge of helping clean up California Racing. I doubt Brackpool, Raffetto, and Miller would have survived the scrutiny.

Now we will see if they make an announcement to accept the proposal made by the Tracks during Del Mar to lower takeout on the two horse bets. They could do it today. Read the attached agreement.

toussaud
11-17-2011, 11:10 AM
They HAVE to lower takeout don't they? That was kinda the entire point of this whole thing? how can they come to an agreement and lower takeout isn't the primary issue at hand?

rwwupl
11-17-2011, 11:45 AM
New blood, new start is a good thing.

Without recognizing right away that the customers and their betting handle and preparing to be competitive in the marketplace are the MOST important element of this industry in California, the change is incomplete.



Mike Pegram has the perfect opportunity to create a new wave of goodwill and declare his intentions to recognize customer needs,by making the game more attractive to the betting public.



The racetracks have requested TOC cooperation in an adjustment in the price of certain bets. It would be refreshing to see Mike Pegram do something about it… maybe at the CHRB meeting today?



Handle is the cornerstone of a healthy California racing industry…and it has yet to be understood or addressed by the horsemen’s group.



Why not now?



Roger Way

takeout
11-19-2011, 07:53 AM
The racetracks have requested TOC cooperation in an adjustment in the price of certain bets.Why did the TOC ever have anything to do with takeout in the first place?

Canarsie
11-19-2011, 08:01 AM
If they don't make an announcement shortly one would have to think this was a power grab and not reducing takeout.

Hopefully what is written above turns out to be 100% false.

Thanks to everybody for all their hard, selfless work in this matter your efforts are appreciated.

Robert Goren
11-19-2011, 08:12 AM
They will do what the racing industry does these day to placate out spoken bettors. They will create some new 5 leg vertical or horizontal bet with one pool a day and have a takeout in 12-15% range. They will keep the high takeout on the pools that people currently betting. They will say they listened to the customer and they responded. There will be a couple of horsemen post here what a great deal the new bet is. We have all seen this before.

takeout
11-19-2011, 08:33 AM
You nailed it. Just more of the same.

jelly
11-19-2011, 11:00 AM
The day the Industry fears the Horseplayer as much as they fear PETA is the day you see them move to an optimal takeout.


Maybe HANA should announce that they partnered with PETA. :eek: That might shake things up.

andymays
11-19-2011, 11:05 AM
Horseplayers helped in forcing the hand of the TOC. My feeling is that you were holding all the aces and let them off the hook, especially Brackpool, Miller, Raffetto, and Owens.

I haven’t heard anyone mention the highlighted goals about the Customer. So do the Customers get thrown under the bus once again?
And how about this from Mike Pegram?

http://www.drf.com/news/raffetto-named-lead-troubled-toc

Excerpt:

When pressed on the issue by horseplayer Andy Asaro, Pegram said the takeout would not be lowered. "I'm not willing to take an 18 percent cut," Pegram said.

http://calhorsemen.org/immediate_goals.htm


CTHA's Immediate Goals
• End TOC's discrimination against horsemen.
• Set minimum percentages to purses from ADW, Rebaters, and all out of state sources.
• Support, respect and listen to our customers, the horseplayers.
• Increase purses through informed decisions, such as optimizing takeout and allowing wagering flexibility.
• Strengthen Northern California racing.
• Encourage realistic medication policies with appropriate sanctions against wrongdoers.
• Maintain offsite stabling and vanning through intelligent use of resources.
• Begin working closely with national horsemen's groups.
• Minimize costs through cooperative purchasing of insurance, feed, veterinary care, farrier services, etc.

thaskalos
11-19-2011, 11:12 AM
They will do what the racing industry does these day to placate out spoken bettors. They will create some new 5 leg vertical or horizontal bet with one pool a day and have a takeout in 12-15% range. They will keep the high takeout on the pools that people currently betting. They will say they listened to the customer and they responded. There will be a couple of horsemen post here what a great deal the new bet is. We have all seen this before.
Exactly...

CTHA...we hardly got to know ya...

Much ado about nothing...

BillW
11-19-2011, 11:22 AM
"I'm not willing to take an 18 percent cut," Pegram said.[/B]



Well, I'm not willing to accept an 18% price increase. Seems like a fair agreement to me. :cool:

andymays
11-19-2011, 02:24 PM
Here's the agreement.