Empire Way

[Casino]

Empire Way at Hollywood Park today won the 4th race,at no point of the race was this horse urged.He ran on his own,Rosario was along for the ride,the winning margin a HALF LENGTH.Left some in the tank,Harrinton has the goods in this horse but i have a feeling he wont be in his barn for long.

[Spalding No!]

Unless an absolutely ridiculous sum is offered, I think he'll hang on to him. The whole point of Harrington and his owner dipping into the Kentucky gene pool was to develop a replacement for the aging CA stallion Swiss Yodeler.

As both Empire Way and Creative Cause have 7-figure pedigrees, and both appear to be able to run a little, the connections seem to have come upon their future stallion prospects quickly. Since a good racing career doesn't necessarily guarantee a good stallion career, I would guess that they don't want to put all their eggs in one basket. In that regard, I doubt they're too eager to part with either colt.

[KirisClown]

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[shhail2]

To those of you who didnt know, this horse is a full brother to Royal Delta.

[Casino]

To those of you who didnt know, this horse is a full brother to Royal Delta.

Runs just like a her and grandad,head a little bit downward.

[toussaud]

i gotta say.. i'm not really that impressed. I mean, let me put it in perspective. this is the 2nd forum i have looked at today that has mentioned this horse specifically and i just looked at the video (yesterday start my forced 3 week break from horse racing i take every year) and I expected a conveyance 2YO or a the factor 3YO esque performance.

I mean he looks good and he will run on no doubt but I mean, i can tell you now i'm going all in on him against the what 3/5 you will get from him next out in what the robert b. lewis stakes?

[Spalding No!]

i gotta say.. i'm not really that impressed. I mean, let me put it in perspective. this is the 2nd forum i have looked at today that has mentioned this horse specifically and i just looked at the video (yesterday start my forced 3 week break from horse racing i take every year) and I expected a conveyance 2YO or a the factor 3YO esque performance.

Why would you want a possible Derby prospect to look like an out-and-out sprinter when breaking its maiden?

[toussaud]

Why would you want a possible Derby prospect to look like an out-and-out sprinter when breaking its maiden?
yeah i suppose me naming off 2 sprinters would give the impression that was what i was looking for. I just used 2 horses name s off the top of my head that happened to be sprinters, not saying i was expecting that type of performance, i just was not impressed by what i saw.

[davew]

seems okay, but not earth shattering yet

in a 5 horse field, all the top 4 were between 2 and 5/2 in odds
so I think just as good a chance that one of the other 3

(Holy Candy, Unmarked Bills, Take No Prisoners)

will do best next year

[redshift1]

The Dam of Empire Way sold for 2.6 million in foal to Distorted Humor.

[shhail2]

I dont think he was asked to do anything the whole race. Granted it was just a 5 horse field but i think the 2-4 and 1 all have bright futures ahead of them coming out of that race. ONly thing that bothers me are the front wraps he has on?

[stringmail]

Seemed like a very polished ride for a 2yr old. Settled in, a little dirt in face, easy wide move with little urging down the lane. They probably couldn't have laid it out better. Harrington enters two, the race fills, small field and no traffic trouble. It certainly was a "who's who" of trainers behind him, Sadler, Mandella and Baffert.

Time was a little slow but track was dull. It will be interesting to see the Beyer in light of prior race with Wall Street Wonder running 2 seconds faster.

I tend to agree he'd be a bet against as a result of the sure to be hype. Seems like Heinz and Mike have an exciting upcoming 6 months with this one and Creative Cause.

[Pine Tree Lane]

Received a 65 Beyer

[redshift1]

Empire Way being considered for the upcoming Grade 1 Futurity.

Interesting, previous futurity winners include A P Indy, Lookin At Lucky plus five Derby winners.



http://www.drf.com/news/hollywood-park-empire-way-eyes-cashcall-futurity-after-maiden-win

[toussaud]

looks like a "stallion" play to me IMHO. take a shot in a grade 1, full sister to a (to be) eclipse champion.. not going for it

[redshift1]

Maybe Its over reaching but it's not like EW is coming off a taxing win. So far the race is coming up somewhat light plus a win almost guarantee's a place in the Kentucky Derby by graded earnings.

[holmmd]

i'll be trying to beat him next out. way too much pub imo. he even made the DRF twitter feed.

[theguarantee]

Agreed on the running style (head down) looking an awful lot like Royal Delta. Not quite as eye-popping of a move in the maiden score though.

[Casino]

Agreed on the running style (head down) looking an awful lot like Royal Delta. Not quite as eye-popping of a move in the maiden score though.

A.P.Indy grandad was nicknamed the "Ant Eater" because he ran with his head down.

[toussaud]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/66288/promising-prospects-square-off-in-prevue

[holmmd]

Need to see the MLs but Galex stuck out on my initial review of the PPs

[redshift1]

According to the DRF, Empire Way is still pointed to the Futurity:

"Meanwhile, the plan for Empire Way is short term – the Grade 1 CashCall Futurity on Dec. 17 at Hollywood Park. A full brother to BC Ladies’ Classic winner Royal Delta, Empire Way won his debut Nov. 13 at Hollywood with a 65 Beyer after racing 6 1/2 furlongs in 1:17.93. It was not fast, and Harrington is not worried.

“I don’t think the race took too much out of him,” Harrington said. “I think he needs another race before I run him a mile and a sixteenth.”


So it looks like two more races in 2011 for Empire Way assuming he performs as advertised in the Prevue.

http://www.drf.com/news/hollywood-park-prevue-start-something-big-empire-way

[Casino]

So much for the Empire Way.

[redshift1]

I was expecting more, the bettors were lukewarm on EW with the winner getting most of the late action.


Really a flat race wonder if the trainer was all in today or looking to the future.

[iceknight]

Need to see the MLs but Galex stuck out on my initial review of the PPs

"Galex took a bad step entering the turn and had to be pulled up by Rafael Bejarano. He was later euthanized with injuries to his left front ankle and sesamoids.
Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/66343/so-brilliant-wire-to-wire-in-hollywood-prevue#ixzz1efi89xx2

Man, that is really sad...

[JustRalph]

"Galex took a bad step entering the turn and had to be pulled up by Rafael Bejarano. He was later euthanized with injuries to his left front ankle and sesamoids.
Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/66343/so-brilliant-wire-to-wire-in-hollywood-prevue#ixzz1efi89xx2

Man, that is really sad...


Listen to Vic's call, I was listening on Sat Radio. I could tell it was bad.......a little emotion leaked through, with a "Darn it!" slipped in.......

[Nikki1997]

Condylar fracture and sesamoid in the left front. Four went down today.

[Nikki1997]

So, nobody has anything to say here? Four horses lost their lives today. Hope someone cashed in on them. Isn't that what it's all about?

[toussaud]

that's a pretty shitty way to try to make a point.

no one likes breakdowns.


hell what point are you even trying to make? this is cushion track. if it were up to the people cashing tickets this would be dirt.

[PaceAdvantage]

Nikki is a drive-by idiot. I was wondering when he/she would be back... :lol:

[Marlin]

Nikki is a drive-by idiot. I was wondering when he/she would be back... :lol:I wonder where Nikki's sig came from.

[PaceAdvantage]

It came from one of her many indecipherable posts...but you knew that already...

[cj]

So, nobody has anything to say here? Four horses lost their lives today. Hope someone cashed in on them. Isn't that what it's all about?

Are we supposed to hold a candlelight vigil? I'm sorry horses died of course, but I'm not going to dwell on it. I would imagine at least four people died today too.

[redshift1]

Empire Way among 13 possible entrants in the Futurity according to:

http://hollywoodpark.com/news/desormais-cozzetti-join-cashcall-futurity-chase

After running a questionable next to last in the Prevue against a less talented field at 7 furlongs he stretches out to 1 1/16. I guess the added distance might help. Handicapping off form alone he is a pass for me. Probable ML odds somewhere north of 10-1.

[ShipShipandDip]

i gotta say.. i'm not really that impressed. I mean, let me put it in perspective. this is the 2nd forum i have looked at today that has mentioned this horse specifically and i just looked at the video (yesterday start my forced 3 week break from horse racing i take every year) and I expected a conveyance 2YO or a the factor 3YO esque performance.

I mean he looks good and he will run on no doubt but I mean, i can tell you now i'm going all in on him against the what 3/5 you will get from him next out in what the robert b. lewis stakes?

Gulfstream came early...why the hiatus :rolleyes:

[Casino]

After his last work-Im buying his stock Sat.All systems go. :ThmbUp:

[redshift1]

The 1:01 workout on the 11th ?

[toussaud]

Gulfstream came early...why the hiatus :rolleyes:
1. i don't play gulfstream

2. this post was 3 weeks ago

[Casino]

After looking over the pps and replays for the futurity,i expect Empire Way to rebound ,but another horse caught my eye and this horse imo is a beast,his name BLINGO.Debut on the turf and won easily,but after watching his race a few times Blingo maybe the time of horse who has more then 2 winning moves.Put this horse in your stable he made not win Sat but keep a close eye in 2012,Blingo will make some noise. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[Casino]

Empire Way will win the SA derby,Mike took the fronts off and ran a game second,the rest of the field were pretenders.

[Vengeance of Rain]

Empire Way will win the SA derby,Mike took the fronts off and ran a game second,the rest of the field were pretenders.
What will he be doing between now and April 7th?

Here. Maybe it will be something worthy of a nomination. You never know.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/nomination/

[plainolebill]

Empire Way will win the SA derby,Mike took the fronts off and ran a game second,the rest of the field were pretenders.

Only if they run the winner somewhere else.

[Robert Fischer]

Only if they run the winner somewhere else.

He ran a good race.

If we throw out the slop race, or treat it as an education he looks competitive.

[holmmd]

Of all the CA bunch, he and Creative Cause are the only two can potentially compete with the Fla and NY Derby contenders. EW impressed me today and seems to be going in the right direction.

[NTamm1215]

Of all the CA bunch, he and Creative Cause are the only two can potentially compete with the Fla and NY Derby contenders. EW impressed me today and seems to be going in the right direction.

What exactly about the way he ran today impressed you? He was behind a solid pace, received a phenomenal ride, saved all kinds of ground and finished a well-beaten 2nd to a 43-1 shot with the aid of a fracas in midstretch that dropped the favorite. He did very little running and is a complete mediocrity in my opinion.

[RXB]

Empire Way will win the SA derby,Mike took the fronts off and ran a game second,the rest of the field were pretenders.

Ah, the old "will win" pronouncement. Must be nice to know two months in advance that a horse is certain to win the race. My only problem would be figuring out how to spend all the money...

[toussaud]

this horse is not in the same solar system as creative cause. One is an allowance winner, one is a grade 1 winner and breeders cup placed horse who has never finished off the board in his life.

[FrankieFigs]

9th of 10 in the San Felipe........

[Spalding No!]

9th of 10 in the San Felipe........
He didn't figure to win, but that was ugly. Unless a viable excuse is found, it looks like a vacation and fresh start after the Classics is in order.