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bigeastbeast
11-10-2011, 04:31 PM
Or will the new grandstand be large enough to accomdate sports bettors?

Of course,there are a few hurdles first,but Christie and Pallone are now on board.They may be able to placate Goodell if they ban placing bets on the Jets and Giants.

Robert Goren
11-10-2011, 05:07 PM
Or will the new grandstand be large enough to accomdate sports bettors?

Of course,there are a few hurdles first,but Christie and Pallone are now on board.They may be able to placate Goodell if they ban placing bets on the Jets and Giants. Not going to happen. It is against federal law. Between the sports leagues and the anti gambling forces, it doesn't stand a chance in congress.

lamboguy
11-10-2011, 07:10 PM
as far as i knew from years ago, new jersey was grandfathered in to get sports gambling. there was some type of a vote when at the time when christie todd whitman ran for governor to implement sports gambling in the state and it did not pass at that time.

but outside of nevada and new jersey i believe it would take a constitutional amendment to get sports gambling in any state other than those 2. if the grandfather clause has not run out, new jersey should not have a problem implementing sports gambling

bigeastbeast
11-10-2011, 07:59 PM
I think that this is a done deal.A judge dismissed Lesniak's previous law suit due to lack of standing.Now with the vote,that objection no longer exists.

States are getting far more strident on the 10th Amendment rights.They're less likely to back down over some sports leagues' commissioners objections.

On Monday,Pallone will introduce a bill in the House which would carve out an exemption from the law for NJ.Since it wouldn't be all encompassing,it should pass easily.

When it gets to the Senate,Menendez will be forced to vote for it as he is up for re-election.

baconswitchfarm
11-10-2011, 08:08 PM
Delaware is the only east coast state to be grandfathered in when the federal law went in.This has 0 chance of becoming law.

Oskar
12-03-2011, 08:16 AM
The conflict between the NFL’s distrust of sports gambling and the casino business is playing out right now in Massachusetts where Bob Kraft, who owns the Patriots, is teaming up with Steve Wynn to put in a bid for a license to build a casino across route 1 from Gillette Stadium. They’re attempting to circumvent the NFL ban by saying Kraft will simply lease the land to Wynn, who will own the casino. The NFL forced the Rooney family, which owns the Steelers and Yonkers, to adjust their ownership of the Steelers. I believe the part of the family that owns Yonkers cut their piece of the team down from 16% to 2%.



This push by Kraft to get a full casino license may also hurt Gary Pientowski’s bid to secure the lone slots only license for Plainridge, since the two facilities would be very close to one another. The governor is close to Kraft, while the House speaker and the mayor of Boston are backing Suffolk Downs. Those two factions will wage a heavy weight struggle while Plainridge hopes to keep a low profile and get the slots permit before that decision is made.

Robert Goren
12-03-2011, 09:17 AM
I think that this is a done deal.A judge dismissed Lesniak's previous law suit due to lack of standing.Now with the vote,that objection no longer exists.

States are getting far more strident on the 10th Amendment rights.They're less likely to back down over some sports leagues' commissioners objections.

On Monday,Pallone will introduce a bill in the House which would carve out an exemption from the law for NJ.Since it wouldn't be all encompassing,it should pass easily.

When it gets to the Senate,Menendez will be forced to vote for it as he is up for re-election.Dream on. Nothing passes the house easily, especially legislation that expands gambling. To get it through, it will have be hidden in some 800 page bill on a totally unrelated subject.

Canarsie
12-03-2011, 10:01 AM
Dream on. Nothing passes the house easily, especially legislation that expands gambling. To get it through, it will have be hidden in some 800 page bill on a totally unrelated subject.

Mr Goren and I disagree a lot but not on this. First Delaware is only allowed to use those stupid parley cards only a dummy plays them. NJ had a small window to enact sports betting and it didn't happen.

If you think a bill that only benefits NJ is going to move through the legislative chambers quickly I have a bridge to sell you.

Probably the most important is how government types think people will run to racetracks to bet sports. All one has to do is pick up a phone and settle up once a week. Somebody once said "if you don't know a bookie in NJ then you have no friends at all". Think that sums it up in a nutshell.

Do people run to the racetrack to bet horses anymore? When the computers that handled all the pari-mutuel went down at the Meadowlands there were still over a thousand people screaming at the screens. Even if it becomes law they won't come close to generating whatever they forecast.