High Beyers?

[Tom]

TVG host suggesting that Med and No Cal Beyers are too high and he is deducting 5-10 points from figs earned at either track.
Anyone that uses Beyers notice this? Could be interesting angle for a few weeks if it is true. Will have to check this out.

[JimG]

That is interesting Tom...as for me I always have thought Philly Park Beyers are too high. I don't play the track but occasionally tracks where they ship in.

Jim

[SAL]

Isn't this possible because the DRF uses different people to calculate their figs on each circuit? Most certainly all the people responsible for the Beyers are not of equal ability. I remember last year (I forget what track) where the figs from a certain track were too LOW, and I made out pretty good when shippers came from that track.

[Tom]

12:45pm....Andy Beyer emailed a reply to the question raised by Cory Nakatani about high Beyers...they will read it in a few minutes on TVG.

[cj]

With the too high Beyers, I haven't seen it as much at the Meadowlands, but NoCal turf races are always way too high when they ship. I think the NoCal dirt races are OK...He said he moved then down a point or two, but that is insignificant to me. On the turf, I'm talking at least 5 points too high.

[Speed Figure]

Originally posted by Tom
12:45pm....Andy Beyer emailed a reply to the question raised by Cory Nakatani about high Beyers...they will read it in a few minutes on TVG.
That was jockey Cory Black that was talking about the beyer's.

[Tom]

Originally posted by speed figure
That was jockey Cory Black that was talking about the beyer's.

ooops!:(

[trying2win]

Tom,

As Maxwell Smart, Agent 86 used to say ..."Missed it by THAT MUCH!"

Trying2win

[Valuist]

Aqueduct inner dirt numbers are way too high, IMO. You'll see horses put up 95s and 105s that can't hit 80 at other tracks.

[kenwoodallpromos]

Wild guessing about adjustments should make for interesting handicapping!!LOL!!

[Valuist]

This theory may get tested today at Hollywood. In the 8th race there, a horse named Menuhin ships in from NoCal with the top Beyer (101) in its last race. The horse did win by 5 and did beat two heavily bet Del Mar ship-ins to accomplish it. If the horse flops, we may have a little evidence that there could be some truth to what the TVG guy was talking about.

[Valuist]

It is only one race but Menuhin ran like crap so just a little more evidence that maybe the TVG guy was right.

[andicap]

Originally posted by Valuist
It is only one race but Menuhin ran like crap so just a little more evidence that maybe the TVG guy was right.

Or he "bounced"...

[cj]

Or, the most important thing in my opinion, the horse was running a full furlong longer on Sunday...huge difference between 8 and 9 furlongs. You can get a lot of nice prices tossing horses with the top last figure but at distances different from today of a furlong or greater.

[Tee]

I saw the 101 BSF & didn't know quite what to think.

Looking at the fig that Thorograph gave him for the last race(2) off a 12 in the previous race I thought he would regress off that last race. His previous top was a 7 1/2 - moving to a 2 is a big move no?

Now back BSF's. His previous top on the dirt was 84, whether the 101 is "real" or not really shouldn't matter. Half that gap would point to a potential poor race imo.

I didn't use Menuhim anywhere in my wagering, but that didn't stop me from screwing up my pick 4 bigtime. I played a cheap pick 6 ticket that looks good from a contenders viewpoint, but also was a big loser. I'll scrounge around in my losing ticket pile & make an attempt to post my losing Pick 4 & Pick 6 tix, which were truly a example of wagering stupidity

[Tee]

This is much quicker than trying to become totally computer - literate in one evening :) :)

Why I don't play multiple race wagers. I tend to pick contenders - not exactly winners & go from there. Me thinks I will try & remedy this for the upcoming year.

Here are the wagers I placed

$1 PK4W
6,9
5,7
3
4,6

$1 PK4W
5
2
3,4,8,11,14
6,7

$2 PK6W
1
4,7
5,11
2
8,11
6

Oh what might have been if I hadn't left my brain at home before I left for the otb.

Still didn't have the 8 in the last race.:) :) :) :) :)