USC/Utah - uproar in LV sportsbooks

[horses4courses]

I'm surprised there was no thread on this one, although I might have missed it

Here's a perfect example of making a bad situation worse.
MGM R/S director Jay Rood sticks to his guns, and refuses to pay both sides of the game.
Other books take a different stance, and will pick up more business down the road by doing so. JMO

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-usc-utah-vegas-20110912,0,7173241.story

[LottaKash]

As a bettor of this game, win or lose, I would tend to agree with this quote:

"And if we wait to make sure the score's not changed, more people would be upset with us for not paying when the final score posts. Do you want to have to wait 24 hours to collect? So it comes down to, what rules can you live with?"

So I'd say, I would just have to eat it, as how many games would go down like that one ?....Bad break is all...

Good for the ones that got paid off tho...:jump:

best,

[cj]

I watched the end and it certainly seemed the TD was being waved off because of that silly new rule of celebrating before you get into the end zone. Why was it later counted?

[slew101]

I would back the theory that when the refs left the field, the final was 17-14. That how the game should be scored by the books.

Not really that similar, but if you bet a horse and he gets DQ'd, and that DQ is later reversed on appeal for purse money, bettors who had the winner don't get paid, even though they were in the right. Referee errors always affects outcomes.

As for the ruling, the Pac 10 restored the TD because the new rule only kills the TD if someone in the play taunts. Since the players on the bench were the ones committing the penalty, they were not involved in the actual play, so it should not have triggered the new taunting rule.

I watched the end and it certainly seemed the TD was being waved off because of that silly new rule of celebrating before you get into the end zone. Why was it later counted?

[maddog42]

I watched the end and it certainly seemed the TD was being waved off because of that silly new rule of celebrating before you get into the end zone. Why was it later counted?
Remember the OU Oregon game at Oregon a couple of years ago? Replay official got the call wrong. It was obvious to everybody, even ESPN. Turns out the replay official was High School buddy of Bellotti (oregon coach). No overturn on that one by Pac 10. Surprise. Pac 10 has the worst officials.

[cj]

As for the ruling, the Pac 10 restored the TD because the new rule only kills the TD if someone in the play taunts. Since the players on the bench were the ones committing the penalty, they were not involved in the actual play, so it should not have triggered the new taunting rule.

Maybe I am remembering wrong, but it sure seems like the guy returning the blocked kick was showboating on the way in.

EDIT: I watched the replay, he wasn't, but he did in the end zone.

[skate]

yeah..he was correct.

"when the great way is lost, there arise Rules and Regulations.":(

[horses4courses]

Jay Rood, and book managers in LV, will find that the game will change slightly when William Hill enter the Nevada market next year.

They are not afraid to sacrifice a few $$$ in unusual circumstances, such as the USC/Utah outcome, IN FAVOR of the BETTORS.

It's called "creating goodwill" in the business world, and the dollars cost are nearly always recouped with favorable publicity.

The new player in the game is likely to shake things up a little bit.......

[Dave Schwartz]

Horse4,

They are not afraid to sacrifice a few $$$ in unusual circumstances, such as the USC/Utah outcome, IN FAVOR of the BETTORS.

If they do too much of that, the sharks will eat their lunch.

Hmm... conjures an image of trying to hand feed a crocodile in order to establish a relationship with the croc.

[horses4courses]

Horse4,



If they do too much of that, the sharks will eat their lunch.

Hmm... conjures an image of trying to hand feed a crocodile in order to establish a relationship with the croc.

Agreed, Dave

They market extremely well in Europe (in a competitive situation), and it remains to be seen what their game plan is in the U.S.

Sports betting won't fly in our lifetime but, for now, they seem content to get a foot in the door in Nevada.
Online gaming is the dangling carrot, but it probably won't have restrictions eased for some time, either.

Rest assured, though....they will spend money to market themselves here.

[maddog42]

Horse4,



If they do too much of that, the sharks will eat their lunch.

Hmm... conjures an image of trying to hand feed a crocodile in order to establish a relationship with the croc.

I disagree. Maybe if they paid both sides one game out of 50, they might lose money.This situation comes up maybe, maybe 1 game in 10,000. This is a marvelous chance for them to make inroads in sports gambling. Create goodwill.