Just another half trillion!!! lmao

[newtothegame]

Senate Dems approve another $500 billion debt limit increase (http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2011/09/09/senate-dems-approve-another-500-billion-debt-limit-increase/)




Senate Dems out-game Republicans -- avoid veto


Posted by Dan Spencer (http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/)

Friday, September 9th at 12:01PM EDT

23 Comments

Senate Democrats gamed Republicans (http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2011/09/08/obamas-fuzzy-stimulus-math/) and saved their unpopular President (http://www.examiner.com/right-side-politics-in-national/polls-find-obama-deep-trouble-no-longer-favored-to-win-reelection) from issuing a veto to get his request for another $500 billion in the national debt.

Last night, after the Obama’s “pass this bill” speech, 52 Senate Democrats voted not to consider the Resolution disapproving President Obama’s request to increase the national debt.

http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2011/09/09/senate-dems-approve-another-500-billion-debt-limit-increase/

[newtothegame]

Corker from TN voted with dems....RHINO!!!
I expected brown to go there!!

[Saratoga_Mike]

Corker from TN voted with dems....RHINO!!!
I expected brown to go there!!

Yeah Corker's a rino. Hah.

[Tom]

He is far worse than that.

[Saratoga_Mike]

He is far worse than that.

If Corker is a RINO, Reagan was a RINO. What happened to domestic spending under Reagan? How did he respond to the bombing in Lebanon? Got the hell out. He raised taxes. He ran large deficits. He worked with Tip O'Neil, a liberal Dem.

So if you think Reagan was a RINO, I'll go along with you on Corker.

[Tom]

What an exercise in futility, trying to compare actions from two drastically different worlds to make a weak point.

I have no time for that game, but feel free to enjoy yourself.

[boxcar]

Corker from TN voted with dems....RHINO!!!
I expected brown to go there!!

Oh, no, no, no -- a thousand times NO! He's not a RINO! He's just one of those Republican "moderates" who just voted right along with all the Dem moderates. He's precisely the kind of "conservative" the Republican Establishment loves.

Boxcar

[Saratoga_Mike]

What an exercise in futility, trying to compare actions from two drastically different worlds to make a weak point.

I have no time for that game, but feel free to enjoy yourself.

Because once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know anything about Corker. You don't know his background in the private sector. You don't know his background in govt. And you don't know how he's voted on anything beyond this and maybe one or two other bills. You're a poster-child for the know-nothing wing of the Tea Party! I'll bet $1,000 you mainly think Corker is a RINO b/c Rush says so (this goes for Box, too). Be honest. Now get angry, as you always do when someone calls you out.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Oh, no, no, no -- a thousand times NO! He's not a RINO! He's just one of those Republican "moderates" who just voted right along with all the Dem moderates. He's precisely the kind of "conservative" the Republican Establishment loves.Boxcar

I love it - you display your ignorance so well. Tell us more about Corker's relationship with the Establishment.

[hcap]

I seriously doubt Reagan, Nixon or Eisenhower could ever get the republican nomination today. Not only disqualified as RINOs but libs as well.

[boxcar]

I love it - you display your ignorance so well. Tell us more about Corker's relationship with the Establishment.

But only about half as well as you.

His "progressive" score of 17 does not consistently speak to conservative values. In fact, his "conservative rating" was only 55 -- very weak (in my book)! In fact, McCain's score was only 11 points lower.

Further, his "Conservative Score: earned him a spot in the "Milquetoast Conservatives" category. A staunch conservative, eh? :rolleyes:

Shore up your own ignorance before presuming to point to anyone else's!

http://thatsmycongress.com/senate/senatorBobCorkerTN111.html

Boxcar

[elysiantraveller]

I seriously doubt Reagan, Nixon or Eisenhower could ever get the republican nomination today. Not only disqualified as RINOs but libs as well.

I seriously agree with you.

[skate]

Because once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know anything about Corker. You don't know his background in the private sector. You don't know his background in govt. And you don't know how he's voted on anything beyond this and maybe one or two other bills. You're a poster-child for the know-nothing wing of the Tea Party! I'll bet $1,000 you mainly think Corker is a RINO b/c Rush says so (this goes for Box, too). Be honest. Now get angry, as you always do when someone calls you out.

ah gees oh man...hey Tom, you must admit, this guy is getting as funny as you.

I'm laughing so hard at his first line...:D ,,,oh my goodness, i thought it was over and i just had to read his "you dont know anything about his background". now i'm in real trouble...:lol:

oh man:)

[ArlJim78]

by todays standards Harry Truman or JFK would be considered right wing extremists, terrorists, sons of bitches, you name it.

[skate]

I seriously agree with you.

hey Zilly...is that you?

wait wait wait...ok, you "seriously agree"....:D that's good.:kiss:

[Tom]

Because once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know anything about Corker. You don't know his background in the private sector. You don't know his background in govt. And you don't know how he's voted on anything beyond this and maybe one or two other bills. You're a poster-child for the know-nothing wing of the Tea Party! I'll bet $1,000 you mainly think Corker is a RINO b/c Rush says so (this goes for Box, too). Be honest. Now get angry, as you always do when someone calls you out.

Angry?
About what?
That you think I called him a RINO?
I didn't.
But you didn't know that, did you?

I find you laughable.
Carry on. Your trip down Futile Lane is amusing.:D

[hcap]

by todays standards Harry Truman or JFK would be considered right wing extremists, terrorists, sons of bitches, you name it.

Althouh, FDR, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson were aggressive and hawkish, they were avowed Liberals.

By and large the Cold War was a real threat and strategic policies of western democracies were hawkish. But all presidents above were socially liberal.

From Wiki..

Modern American liberalism is a form of liberalism developed from progressive ideals such as Theodore Roosevelt's New Nationalism, Woodrow Wilson's New Freedom, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, John F. Kennedy's New Frontier, and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It combines social liberalism and social progressivism with support for a welfare state and a mixed economy. American liberal causes include voting rights for African Americans, abortion rights for women, gay rights and government entitlements such as education and health care.[1]

Keynesian economic theory has played a central role in the economic philosophy of American liberals.[2] The argument has been that national prosperity requires government management of the macroeconomy, to keep unemployment low, inflation in check, and growth high.[2]


FOR ALL YOU CONS who think JFK was a conservative.........


John F. Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:
“ ...someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal'.

[Tom]

Kenyan economic theory has played a central role in the economic philosophy of American liberals.

Is that why Obama embraces it? Because he is a Kenyan?

[hcap]

Is that why Obama embraces it? Because he is a Kenyan?That's what Donald Trump, WorldNutDailt and most idiots believe. Who am I to puncture balloons?

[The Judge]

how telling your opponents that there will be a vote is in anyway "out-gaming them , and somehow... avoids a veto?

The posted article talks about one thing how bad the Obama Proposal is .

Vote and go stand in the hall, come back in when the speech is over,go to sleep or shout "you lie".

[boxcar]

That's what Donald Trump, WorldNutDailt and most idiots believe. Who am I to puncture balloons?

What do you think the point on the top of your head is for? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[PaceAdvantage]

I seriously agree with you.I seriously disagree.

The silliness never ends.

[hcap]

Even though Nixon was a paranoid nut case when it came to politics, he was in favor of universal health care. And instead of bombing China, talked. Eisenhower presided over the highest trax rates ever, and more importantly did the big government socialist interstate highway system
RR raised taxes more than he cut them. and negotiated with Gorbachev

Today the rethugs would say RINO to all 3 before Sarah could cook a moose

[elysiantraveller]

Even though Nixon was a paranoid nut case when it came to politics, he was in favor of universal health care. And instead of bombing China, talked. Eisenhower presided over the highest trax rates ever, and more importantly did the big government socialist interstate highway system
RR raised taxes more than he cut them. and negotiated with Gorbachev

Today the rethugs would say RINO to all 3 before Sarah could cook a moose

Nixon also created the EPA.

[Sugar Ron]

Althouh, FDR, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson were aggressive and hawkish, they were avowed Liberals.

By and large the Cold War was a real threat and strategic policies of western democracies were hawkish. But all presidents above were socially liberal.

From Wiki..

Modern American liberalism is a form of liberalism developed from progressive ideals such as Theodore Roosevelt's New Nationalism, Woodrow Wilson's New Freedom, Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, John F. Kennedy's New Frontier, and Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. It combines social liberalism and social progressivism with support for a welfare state and a mixed economy. American liberal causes include voting rights for African Americans, abortion rights for women, gay rights and government entitlements such as education and health care.[1]

Keynesian economic theory has played a central role in the economic philosophy of American liberals.[2] The argument has been that national prosperity requires government management of the macroeconomy, to keep unemployment low, inflation in check, and growth high.[2]


FOR ALL YOU CONS who think JFK was a conservative.........


John F. Kennedy defined a liberal as follows:
“ ...someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I’m proud to say I’m a 'Liberal'.

Good stuff, hcap ... especially the JFK quote

Part of Harry's acceptance speech when he got the dem nomination in '48:

Senator Barkley and I will win this election and make those Republicans like it... We will do that because they are wrong and we are right... [T]he people know the Democratic Party is the people's party, and the Republican Party is the party of special interests and it has been and always will be... The Republican Party... favors the privileged few and not the common, every-day man. Ever since its inception that Party has been under the control of special privilege, and they concretely proved it in the 80th Congress. They proved it by the things they did to the people and not for them. they proved it by the things they failed to do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/obamas-jobs-planwiil-he-_b_944658.html

[bigmack]

Good stuff, hcap ... especially the JFK quote

Part of Harry's acceptance speech when he got the dem nomination in '48:

Senator Barkley and I will win this election and make those Republicans like it... We will do that because they are wrong and we are right... [T]he people know the Democratic Party is the people's party, and the Republican Party is the party of special interests and it has been and always will be... The Republican Party... favors the privileged few and not the common, every-day man. Ever since its inception that Party has been under the control of special privilege, and they concretely proved it in the 80th Congress. They proved it by the things they did to the people and not for them. they proved it by the things they failed to do.
Holy Underwear. That makes one post from you that didn't sound like it came from a juvenile delinquent.

Nevermind it came from scouring HuffPost and snorting some lines fed by Dr. Loveless.

Nice work, Chump. :ThmbUp:

http://www.moonbattery.com/robert_reich_shakes_hands.JPG

[elysiantraveller]

Good stuff, hcap ... especially the JFK quote

Part of Harry's acceptance speech when he got the dem nomination in '48:

Senator Barkley and I will win this election and make those Republicans like it... We will do that because they are wrong and we are right... [T]he people know the Democratic Party is the people's party, and the Republican Party is the party of special interests and it has been and always will be... The Republican Party... favors the privileged few and not the common, every-day man. Ever since its inception that Party has been under the control of special privilege, and they concretely proved it in the 80th Congress. They proved it by the things they did to the people and not for them. they proved it by the things they failed to do.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/obamas-jobs-planwiil-he-_b_944658.html

You need to be careful using material that old because the parties both radically shifted during that time. You had the Dixie-crats and the fracturing of both parties into what would be modern Democrats and Republicans.

[Sugar Ron]

Here's his latest, Burger Boy:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/american-jobs-act-obama-_b_955250.html

[Sugar Ron]

You need to be careful using material that old because the parties both radically shifted during that time. You had the Dixie-crats and the fracturing of both parties into what would be modern Democrats and Republicans.

Con bashing never gets old ... lol

[elysiantraveller]

Con bashing never gets old ... lol

Its not bashing its American History.

The traditional southern democrat that existed then now makes up a large chunk of the republican party.

You can quote stuff from that era but the terms Republican and Democrat had very different meanings back then.

For instance republican strongholds were in cities and they carried a lot of the minority vote... now... not so much. :)

Democrats were also MUCH more conservative. Wiki the Dixiecrats or Strom Thurmond if you are interested.

[TJDave]

I seriously doubt Reagan, Nixon or Eisenhower could ever get the republican nomination today. Not only disqualified as RINOs but libs as well.

Ike and Reagan, no, but Nixon was a master of the subtlety of divisive politics. He would get today's nomination...

Regardless if he ran as republican, or democrat. ;)