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Sugar Ron
08-16-2011, 01:11 PM
STFU, ya big dummy


Seriously, can you believe the arrogance of this "D" student ... trying to give the Fed Chairman job advice?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20092885-503544.html


LMAO

Between Commander Bachmann and this yahoo, the election season promises to be a veritable whopper-fest...

Tom
08-16-2011, 01:31 PM
Uh, sounds like really GOOD advice to me.
BTW, what do you think is more important, Sugar Foot, his college grades or the fact that he has created 10 kazillion times as many jobs as Obama has?
Every time you see the reports on how many jobs were created in the last month, remember to deduct the ones from Texas. :lol::lol::lol:

BTW, where is YOUR college transcript?

Pell Mell
08-16-2011, 02:30 PM
I seem to recall a documentry about Brazil where it said the president that turned the country around was a working man with a 4th grade education. ;)

mostpost
08-16-2011, 03:45 PM
Perry is playing to the ignorant Tea Party base. You're going to hear a lot of Anti -government rhetoric from him as the campaign goes on. You're going to hear him talk about how Obama hates America even though Perry was the one who said Texas should secede form the United States. You will hear him brag about how he balanced the the Texas state budget. You won't hear him talk about the fact that he did it with stimulus money from the federal government. Money that he originally said he would not accept. You won't hear Perry talk about the fact that his budget cuts may cost 100,000 Texas teachers their jobs. That is one third of all the teachers in Texas. He will not mention that many of the jobs created in Texas are the direct result of stimulus money provided by the federal government.

Sugar Ron
08-16-2011, 04:09 PM
Uh, sounds like really GOOD advice to me.
BTW, what do you think is more important, Sugar Foot, his college grades or the fact that he has created 10 kazillion times as many jobs as Obama has?
Every time you see the reports on how many jobs were created in the last month, remember to deduct the ones from Texas. :lol::lol::lol:

BTW, where is YOUR college transcript?

Please, Tim

A bunch of economists have already been punching gaping holes in Richard's claim that he's some kind of super jobs creator.

And my transcript is safely tucked away in that USC Registrar's Office. :cool:

bigmack
08-16-2011, 04:33 PM
many of the jobs created in Texas are the direct result of stimulus money provided by the federal government.
Back it up with fact.

The Judge
08-16-2011, 04:58 PM
"There's an important caveat, however, that the Texas governor is unlikely to volunteer: Virtually all of those new jobs are in the government sector, not in private enterprise."

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2011/08/16/how-rick-perry-created-jobs-in-texas

Saratoga_Mike
08-16-2011, 05:09 PM
Perry is playing to the ignorant Tea Party base. You're going to hear a lot of Anti -government rhetoric from him as the campaign goes on. You're going to hear him talk about how Obama hates America even though Perry was the one who said Texas should secede form the United States. You will hear him brag about how he balanced the the Texas state budget. You won't hear him talk about the fact that he did it with stimulus money from the federal government. Money that he originally said he would not accept. You won't hear Perry talk about the fact that his budget cuts may cost 100,000 Texas teachers their jobs. That is one third of all the teachers in Texas. He will not mention that many of the jobs created in Texas are the direct result of stimulus money provided by the federal government.

This claim is patently false - please refer to BLS data (I've done so). You have a habit of posting false information (e.g., your 2% tax rate differential claim). Please stop. Thank you.

Mike at A+
08-16-2011, 05:16 PM
Perry is playing to the ignorant Tea Party base. You're going to hear a lot of Anti -government rhetoric from him as the campaign goes on. You're going to hear him talk about how Obama hates America even though Perry was the one who said Texas should secede form the United States. You will hear him brag about how he balanced the the Texas state budget. You won't hear him talk about the fact that he did it with stimulus money from the federal government. Money that he originally said he would not accept. You won't hear Perry talk about the fact that his budget cuts may cost 100,000 Texas teachers their jobs. That is one third of all the teachers in Texas. He will not mention that many of the jobs created in Texas are the direct result of stimulus money provided by the federal government.
BS alert! Go find the REAL quote. He never said Texas SHOULD secede.

mostpost
08-16-2011, 05:18 PM
Back it up with fact.

http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/MapGallery/Pages/jobs.aspx?datasource=num_jobs

Approximately 45,000 jobs were created as the result of contracts, loans and grants provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment act.

Since Feb of 2009 Texas has added 230,000 jobs.

Saratoga_Mike
08-16-2011, 05:23 PM
http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/MapGallery/Pages/jobs.aspx?datasource=num_jobs

Approximately 45,000 jobs were created as the result of contracts, loans and grants provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment act.

Since Feb of 2009 Texas has added 230,000 jobs.

Please review with us how many jobs were created from Dec 2000 until Jun 2011 (latest datapt), then tell us how 45k is "many" in that context.

Also, realize the 45k claim is based on the same econometric models that were used to project job creation before the stimulus package.

hcap
08-16-2011, 05:25 PM
How could Rick leave the union after this?

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/01/texas-used-stimulus-to-cover-97-of-its-deficit/70077/

Texas Used Stimulus to Cover 97% of Its Deficit
By Derek Thompson

Even as he railed against the Recovery Act, Texas Gov. Rick Perry used the government's stimulus plan to cover 97 percent of the state's budget deficit in 2009:

Turns out Texas was the state that depended the most on those very stimulus funds to plug nearly 97% of its shortfall for fiscal 2010, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched.
"Stimulus was very helpful in getting them through the last few years," said Brian Sigritz, director of state fiscal studies for the National Association of State Budget Officers, said of Texas.

In FY 2012, Texas' deficit is projected to come in at $12 billion, more than 30 percent of its budget -- the third highest rate in the country. But the states, which are collectively facing a $120 billion shortfall next year, are unlikely to see any more stimulus, in large part due to the efforts of conservatives like Gov. Perry, who have slammed the Recovery Act as a wasteful and ineffective government bailout. You make your own bed, etc.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/?cnn=yes

mostpost
08-16-2011, 05:27 PM
This claim is patently false - please refer to BLS data (I've done so). You have a habit of posting false information (e.g., your 2% tax rate differential claim). Please stop. Thank you.

If you have referred to BLS data post a link. Tell us why my claim is patently false. Refer to my #10 in which I present the numbers and a link to Recovery.gov. Also check out The Judge's post where he shows that most of the Texas job gains were not in the private sector, but in the public sector.

bigmack
08-16-2011, 05:29 PM
Approximately 45,000 jobs were created as the result of contracts, loans and grants provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment act.
Balderdash. You're still using Recovery.org numbers? :lol:

http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/stimulus_jobs/

Saratoga_Mike
08-16-2011, 05:33 PM
If you have referred to BLS data post a link. Tell us why my claim is patently false. Refer to my #10 in which I present the numbers and a link to Recovery.gov. Also check out The Judge's post where he shows that most of the Texas job gains were not in the private sector, but in the public sector.

45k out of roughly 1 mm (note I only went back to Jan 2001) isn't "many."

Year Period labor force employment unemployment unemployment rate
2001 Jan 10466735 10023806 442929 4.2
2001 Feb 10492562 10039992 452570 4.3
2001 Mar 10510716 10043175 467541 4.4
2001 Apr 10517377 10034147 483230 4.6
2001 May 10514748 10019084 495664 4.7
2001 Jun 10516197 10003859 512338 4.9
2001 Jul 10522485 9993699 528786 5.0
2001 Aug 10543801 9989898 553903 5.3
2001 Sep 10561313 9989009 572304 5.4
2001 Oct 10596080 9997821 598259 5.6
2001 Nov 10629712 10011209 618503 5.8
2001 Dec 10662603 10026254 636349 6.0
2002 Jan 10693155 10043285 649870 6.1
2002 Feb 10714102 10054830 659272 6.2
2002 Mar 10733929 10062553 671376 6.3
2002 Apr 10742505 10063176 679329 6.3
2002 May 10743472 10060725 682747 6.4
2002 Jun 10749862 10063070 686792 6.4
2002 Jul 10759869 10071851 688018 6.4
2002 Aug 10775595 10085473 690122 6.4
2002 Sep 10792915 10102367 690548 6.4
2002 Oct 10820361 10122217 698144 6.5
2002 Nov 10850075 10142132 707943 6.5
2002 Dec 10875819 10158767 717052 6.6
2003 Jan 10897224 10173909 723315 6.6
2003 Feb 10917144 10187323 729821 6.7
2003 Mar 10931961 10196329 735632 6.7
2003 Apr 10937980 10195169 742811 6.8
2003 May 10933365 10186490 746875 6.8
2003 Jun 10930790 10176875 753915 6.9
2003 Jul 10925556 10176023 749533 6.9
2003 Aug 10929212 10185621 743591 6.8
2003 Sep 10940695 10207148 733547 6.7
2003 Oct 10960505 10237536 722969 6.6
2003 Nov 10982192 10270282 711910 6.5
2003 Dec 10998763 10299080 699683 6.4
2004 Jan 11013523 10319823 693700 6.3
2004 Feb 11018275 10332757 685518 6.2
2004 Mar 11023847 10340388 683459 6.2
2004 Apr 11016945 10342399 674546 6.1
2004 May 11012463 10343709 668754 6.1
2004 Jun 11011764 10348140 663624 6.0
2004 Jul 11015918 10358442 657476 6.0
2004 Aug 11027199 10375589 651610 5.9
2004 Sep 11044562 10396831 647731 5.9
2004 Oct 11066779 10419187 647592 5.9
2004 Nov 11084967 10439653 645314 5.8
2004 Dec 11100001 10458221 641780 5.8
2005 Jan 11106957 10474985 631972 5.7
2005 Feb 11117106 10490179 626927 5.6
2005 Mar 11119657 10504767 614890 5.5
2005 Apr 11123531 10516994 606537 5.5
2005 May 11129365 10529798 599567 5.4
2005 Jun 11136897 10543220 593677 5.3
2005 Jul 11147321 10555979 591342 5.3
2005 Aug 11157757 10569136 588621 5.3
2005 Sep 11172007 10585033 586974 5.3
2005 Oct 11185840 10602303 583537 5.2
2005 Nov 11205115 10622124 582991 5.2
2005 Dec 11221268 10641200 580068 5.2
2006 Jan 11231720(B) 10655714(B) 576006(B) 5.1(B)
2006 Feb 11252510(B) 10675611(B) 576899(B) 5.1(B)
2006 Mar 11266674(B) 10692577(B) 574097(B) 5.1(B)
2006 Apr 11281470(B) 10704254(B) 577216(B) 5.1(B)
2006 May 11287855(B) 10713368(B) 574487(B) 5.1(B)
2006 Jun 11293652(B) 10724069(B) 569583(B) 5.0(B)
2006 Jul 11308746(B) 10742210(B) 566536(B) 5.0(B)
2006 Aug 11323848(B) 10768469(B) 555379(B) 4.9(B)
2006 Sep 11344897(B) 10801117(B) 543780(B) 4.8(B)
2006 Oct 11366806(B) 10836092(B) 530714(B) 4.7(B)
2006 Nov 11391853(B) 10867597(B) 524256(B) 4.6(B)
2006 Dec 11405329(B) 10889271(B) 516058(B) 4.5(B)
2007 Jan 11409933(B) 10901614(B) 508319(B) 4.5(B)
2007 Feb 11406076(B) 10905698(B) 500378(B) 4.4(B)
2007 Mar 11396143(B) 10903524(B) 492619(B) 4.3(B)
2007 Apr 11391381(B) 10899759(B) 491622(B) 4.3(B)
2007 May 11386827(B) 10895048(B) 491779(B) 4.3(B)
2007 Jun 11387879(B) 10894962(B) 492917(B) 4.3(B)
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2007 Sep 11438937(B) 10938435(B) 500502(B) 4.4(B)
2007 Oct 11469807(B) 10965215(B) 504592(B) 4.4(B)
2007 Nov 11494492(B) 10990003(B) 504489(B) 4.4(B)
2007 Dec 11524859(B) 11014558(B) 510301(B) 4.4(B)
2008 Jan 11540375(B) 11033259(B) 507116(B) 4.4(B)
2008 Feb 11553645(B) 11048893(B) 504752(B) 4.4(B)
2008 Mar 11568935(B) 11058454(B) 510481(B) 4.4(B)
2008 Apr 11578053(B) 11062082(B) 515971(B) 4.5(B)
2008 May 11600748(B) 11063550(B) 537198(B) 4.6(B)
2008 Jun 11620168(B) 11065965(B) 554203(B) 4.8(B)
2008 Jul 11646319(B) 11072024(B) 574295(B) 4.9(B)
2008 Aug 11676468(B) 11081681(B) 594787(B) 5.1(B)
2008 Sep 11699897(B) 11089443(B) 610454(B) 5.2(B)
2008 Oct 11731578(B) 11092390(B) 639188(B) 5.4(B)
2008 Nov 11756949(B) 11085389(B) 671560(B) 5.7(B)
2008 Dec 11783656(B) 11069440(B) 714216(B) 6.1(B)
2009 Jan 11804523(B) 11049483(B) 755040(B) 6.4(B)
2009 Feb 11826766(B) 11031027(B) 795739(B) 6.7(B)
2009 Mar 11848135(B) 11018502(B) 829633(B) 7.0(B)
2009 Apr 11868169(B) 11009494(B) 858675(B) 7.2(B)
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2009 Nov 11975522(B) 11007458(B) 968064(B) 8.1(B)
2009 Dec 12008026(B) 11029839(B) 978187(B) 8.1(B)
2010 Jan 12045259(B) 11058224(B) 987035(B) 8.2(B)
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B : Reflects revised population controls, model reestimation, and new seasonal adjustment.
P : Preliminary.

Saratoga_Mike
08-16-2011, 05:38 PM
If you have referred to BLS data post a link. Tell us why my claim is patently false. Refer to my #10 in which I present the numbers and a link to Recovery.gov. Also check out The Judge's post where he shows that most of the Texas job gains were not in the private sector, but in the public sector.

Again, stop posting falsehoods---roughly 30% is not most. I don't get my information from magazine articles. I use primary sources.

Govt jobs in Texas...

Download: Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2001 1568.7 1568.8 1572.4 1575.3 1577.7 1583.2 1580.2 1590.4 1604.3 1601.8 1605.8 1606.8
2002 1609.4 1610.8 1616.9 1618.0 1622.0 1622.4 1617.9 1622.0 1632.5 1646.3 1646.8 1648.4
2003 1647.4 1649.5 1647.8 1650.1 1650.7 1652.7 1644.0 1643.7 1641.9 1642.5 1642.4 1641.6
2004 1644.3 1645.7 1647.5 1649.4 1651.5 1655.8 1657.5 1661.0 1662.4 1662.8 1662.7 1666.3
2005 1670.1 1671.7 1673.8 1677.9 1680.0 1677.4 1687.6 1695.8 1692.0 1693.2 1695.8 1692.6
2006 1699.1 1700.4 1699.9 1700.2 1700.2 1699.9 1697.9 1714.6 1717.2 1717.6 1716.5 1718.1
2007 1718.5 1720.0 1723.5 1727.5 1729.3 1732.0 1735.1 1738.2 1740.7 1747.2 1751.2 1756.1
2008 1763.7 1765.7 1769.9 1768.5 1771.4 1777.5 1782.8 1787.1 1786.2 1785.3 1792.6 1797.1
2009 1806.2 1804.3 1807.0 1820.4 1818.8 1824.0 1823.7 1818.2 1823.8 1834.7 1835.3 1837.8
2010 1839.0 1840.7 1848.5 1856.8 1890.9 1888.9 1869.6 1863.3 1850.4 1856.5 1858.0 1860.8
2011 1866.4 1863.1 1858.7 1859.8 1856.2 1868.5(P)
P : Preliminary

mostpost
08-16-2011, 05:46 PM
BS alert! Go find the REAL quote. He never said Texas SHOULD secede.

You're correct only in the sense that Perry did not use the word should.
He said Texas could secede. He said they might want to secede.
Link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html

Another time he incorrectly talked about the idea that when Texas was admitted to the union it was given the option to leave if it wanted to.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61030.html

excerpt:
“When we came into the nation in 1845, we were a republic, we were a stand-alone nation,” the governor can be heard saying. “And one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want. So we’re kind of thinking about that again.”

Of course in all of these comments, Perry is playing to the Know nothing Tea Party crowd.

mostpost
08-16-2011, 05:54 PM
Balderdash. You're still using Recovery.org numbers? :lol:

http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/stimulus_jobs/

And you are using figures through September. And it does not even say which September. Can't be 2011. Might be 2010. Could even be 2009.

Saratoga_Mike
08-16-2011, 05:58 PM
And you are using figures through September. And it does not even say which September. Can't be 2011. Might be 2010. Could even be 2009.

Regardless, roughly 5% isn't "many" of the jobs created under Perry. As for the job creation that resulted from the Stimulus bill, it's an estimate generated from an econometric model. I don't even care for Perry, but there's no need to misrepresent facts.

mostpost
08-16-2011, 06:05 PM
45k out of roughly 1 mm (note I only went back to Jan 2001) isn't "many."
Really? You went back to 2001 and compared those job creation numbers to a stimulus that did not begin until Feb. 2009 (maybe later) Hell, why not go back to 22BC? Imagine how impressive that would make your numbers. :rolleyes:

You compare things that are alike. i.e. Number of jobs created after Feb. 2009 with the number of jobs credited to the stimulus. In this case 230,00 compared to 45,000. 45,000 is many. It is not most. I did not say it was most. I said it was many. By definition "A large but indefinite number"

bigmack
08-16-2011, 06:11 PM
Detailed TX job numbers after stim'money:
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2011/08/16/how-rick-perry-created-jobs-in-texas

Mike at A+
08-16-2011, 06:15 PM
Of course in all of these comments, Perry is playing to the Know nothing Tea Party crowd.
Know nothing?? Methinks you are a wee bit disillusioned. In any grass roots movement you will have a mix of different degrees of intelligence. I'd assess the intelligence level of the Tea Party as a whole FAR ABOVE the typical Obama supporter who thought Obama was going to take care of them out of his "stash".

Now go and play the race card on me like you always do.

mostpost
08-16-2011, 06:38 PM
Know nothing?? Methinks you are a wee bit disillusioned. In any grass roots movement you will have a mix of different degrees of intelligence. I'd assess the intelligence level of the Tea Party as a whole FAR ABOVE the typical Obama supporter who thought Obama was going to take care of them out of his "stash".

Now go and play the race card on me like you always do.
Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?

The Judge
08-16-2011, 06:40 PM
see post #7 .

Mike at A+
08-16-2011, 06:51 PM
Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?
Because you're a partisan liberal Democrat and personal attacks are all you have when even the president runs on a negative platform. He blames Bush, the Congress, anyone but himself and the other idiots in his party like Reid and Pelosi. I know that. You know that and the TEA PARTY knows that. The difference is that the Tea Party isn't afraid to say what should be obvious to everyone else. Partisanship prevents Obama supporters from speaking the truth. He's a huge failure and really needs to stop acting unpresidential and start doing his job instead of taking vacations, playing golf and campaigning 16 months before the election while the country is in sore need of a real leader.

The Judge
08-16-2011, 07:02 PM
and of the candidates running who might that be? Oh I know "Anybody"

mostpost
08-16-2011, 07:07 PM
Because you're a partisan liberal Democrat and personal attacks are all you have when even the president runs on a negative platform. He blames Bush, the Congress, anyone but himself and the other idiots in his party like Reid and Pelosi. I know that. You know that and the TEA PARTY knows that. The difference is that the Tea Party isn't afraid to say what should be obvious to everyone else. Partisanship prevents Obama supporters from speaking the truth. He's a huge failure and really needs to stop acting unpresidential and start doing his job instead of taking vacations, playing golf and campaigning 16 months before the election while the country is in sore need of a real leader.
That is incorrect. Anyone else care to try to answer the question.

Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?

cj's dad
08-16-2011, 07:27 PM
Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?

Because you are a very hateful individual.

Tom
08-16-2011, 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by mostpost
Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?


Because you have no clue what the Tea Party rally is.
Hint - it is NOT a political party.

Because you have no idea WHO Tea Party people are.

Because you swallow the liberal pablum and puke out what you are told to believe.

mostpost
08-16-2011, 07:53 PM
Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?
So far there are no correct answers, although there is a hint that Tom might know. Nah, that's probably just an accident.

Mike at A+
08-16-2011, 08:18 PM
I think ALL the answers are correct.

mostpost
08-16-2011, 08:42 PM
I think ALL the answers are correct.
Here is the correct answer.
The Know Nothing Party formed circa 1850.
The Tea Party Formed circa 2009. It is a political party regardless of what Tom thinks.
The Know Nothing Party opposed immigration, particularly Irish and German Catholic immigrants.
The Tea Party opposes immigration particularly from Mexico.
The Know Nothing Party believed that ALL office holders should be natural born citizens; Federal, State and Local.
The Tea Party believes the current President is not a natural born citizen,
The Know Nothing Party was afraid that the pope was going to impose papal law on the United States.
The Tea Party is terrified that the caliphate is going to impose Sharia Law.
Members of the Know Nothing Party knew nothing of the existence of the Tea Party.
Members of the Tea Party know nothing of the existence of the Know Nothing Party.
One of the groups has an excuse. :rolleyes:

Mike at A+
08-16-2011, 08:49 PM
The Tea Party does not oppose immigration from Mexico. It just expects that Mexicans (as well as any other nationality) immigrates LEGALLY.

SOME people in the Tea Party are birthers. SOME people in the Democratic Party still believe that George W. Bush planted explosives in the WTC and the New Orleans levees.

SOME people in the Tea Party think that some OTHER people want Sharia law in America.

bigmack
08-16-2011, 09:01 PM
What I wouldn't give to see mostposty delivering mail 'round North Riverside IL ('burb of Chicago, who probably has a fair share of Tea Party minded folk) with a button saying he thought Tea Party people suck.

I think I finally figured it. The Tea Party is like a union. Actual union nerds, like mostie, are green with envy in the amount of power they yield WITHOUT having to pony up lettuce like they've had to do for decades. :lol:

Tom
08-16-2011, 09:05 PM
mostie, you have EVERY ONE WRONG! :lol:

I overestimated you when I said you had no clue.....you don't even have that! :lol:

boxcar
08-16-2011, 09:32 PM
Why do I use the term "know nothing" in referring to the Tea Party?

Because you don't know any better. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

PaceAdvantage
08-17-2011, 03:41 AM
The Tea Party does not oppose immigration from Mexico. It just expects that Mexicans (as well as any other nationality) immigrates LEGALLY.

SOME people in the Tea Party are birthers. SOME people in the Democratic Party still believe that George W. Bush planted explosives in the WTC and the New Orleans levees.Bingo Bango! Don't you love how mostie carefully chooses his incorrect words? :lol:

Tea Party opposes immigration PARTICULARLY from Mexico... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He forgot the world ILLEGAL...but we know he didn't really forget...

Man, if this is all you guys have at this point, your side of the fence is in for a world of hurt come 2012.

Mike at A+
08-17-2011, 07:45 AM
Bingo Bango! Don't you love how mostie carefully chooses his incorrect words? :lol:

Tea Party opposes immigration PARTICULARLY from Mexico... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He forgot the world ILLEGAL...but we know he didn't really forget...

Man, if this is all you guys have at this point, your side of the fence is in for a world of hurt come 2012.
Well you can't blame him. He's only following the examples set by his party. Democrats try to paint all conservatives as "bigoted against hispanics" because they oppose illegal immigration and most of the illegals who come here are from Mexico and of course, Mexicans are hispanic. They conveniently preach this nonsense to every other member of the group "hispanics" like Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans etc etc. After all, it can't possibly be the illegal act of sneaking into America that conservatives object to. It MUST be the tint of skin that conservatives don't like. So Dem politicians run with that platform which of course is just another form of the race card they feel entitled to play. It's ENGRAINED in their talking points.

Tom
08-17-2011, 08:01 AM
If they didn't focus on this stuff, they have to address the real issues, and no lib in his right mind wants to do that.

mostpost
08-17-2011, 10:18 AM
Bingo Bango! Don't you love how mostie carefully chooses his incorrect words? :lol:

Tea Party opposes immigration PARTICULARLY from Mexico... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He forgot the world ILLEGAL...but we know he didn't really forget...

Man, if this is all you guys have at this point, your side of the fence is in for a world of hurt come 2012.

I did not forget the word ILLEGAL. I did not use it because I believe that you do oppose any immigration from Mexico. A proof of that is your support of the Arizona "papers please" law. Any law that targets a particular group shows a bias against that group. You may not want a particular law banning immigration from Mexico, but you sure would prefer they stay at home.

Mike at A+
08-17-2011, 10:35 AM
I did not forget the word ILLEGAL. I did not use it because I believe that you do oppose any immigration from Mexico. A proof of that is your support of the Arizona "papers please" law. Any law that targets a particular group shows a bias against that group. You may not want a particular law banning immigration from Mexico, but you sure would prefer they stay at home.
Again, you are dead wrong. Me personally, I believe that anyone wanting to come to live in America should have SOMETHING OF VALUE TO OFFER. I don't care which country they are coming from. For what you describe as the "papers please" law, you DO realize that every natural born American is required to produce license, registration and proof of insurance (i.e. PAPERS) during a routine traffic stop. If those documents are expired, missing or fake, further police action may be required. This is true for both Americans and "visitors". If "visitors" are deemed to be here illegally, deportation is warranted. If Americans are driving with expired, missing or fake documents, they can face heavy fines, revocation of driving privileges and even jail time.

What would you propose as a penalty if an illegal alien is driving with missing or fake documents (notice I omitted "expired" because illegals shouldn't be in possession of valid driving documents).

Sugar Ron
08-17-2011, 11:06 AM
The con at the gym was rambling on and on last night about some Perry-Eddie Munster ticket.

God what an annoying tard

Anyway, noticed that pesky little "Truth-O-Meter" has been paying quite a lot of attention lately to Rick Bush ... er, Rick Perry:

"Twenty-five states have lower unemployment than Texas" which is "tied with Mississippi for more minimum-wage jobs than anywhere in the United States."


TRUE


Um, I'm not exactly impressed, Richard..................

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/aug/16/lloyd-doggett/lloyd-doggett-says-texas-has-worse-unemployment-25/

Tom
08-17-2011, 11:27 AM
Originally Posted by mostpost
I did not forget the word ILLEGAL. I did not use it because I believe that you do oppose any immigration from Mexico. A proof of that is your support of the Arizona "papers please" law. Any law that targets a particular group shows a bias against that group. You may not want a particular law banning immigration from Mexico, but you sure would prefer they stay at home.


You lie.

bigmack
08-17-2011, 01:50 PM
God what an annoying tard
What exactly do you mean by tard?

PaceAdvantage
08-17-2011, 07:18 PM
What exactly do you mean by tard?I'm pretty sure this is a bannable offense...let me look it up in the code book...

PaceAdvantage
08-17-2011, 07:19 PM
I did not use it because I believe that you do oppose any immigration from Mexico.I don't say this often...but you are one sick puppy.

FantasticDan
08-17-2011, 08:01 PM
I'm pretty sure this is a bannable offense...let me look it up in the code book...While you're at it, is there something in there for calling the First Lady a bitch repeatedly? I'm curious..

Tom
08-17-2011, 08:37 PM
Does she post here?

JustRalph
08-17-2011, 09:42 PM
Does she post here?

I am dreaming of screen names.......... :lol:

ElKabong
08-17-2011, 10:14 PM
What exactly do you mean by tard?

a southerner saying "turd" after a few beers? ......

toussaud
08-18-2011, 12:15 AM
I know you didn't mean anything by it but the wording could lead one to believe the thread has racial undertones


I thought you meant this uncle ben

http://www.radishpress.com/images/2010/05/uncle-ben.jpeg

PaceAdvantage
08-18-2011, 07:47 PM
While you're at it, is there something in there for calling the First Lady a bitch repeatedly? I'm curious..Unless Obama is posting here personally or reading the board (which I doubt), I would gather many more users on this board are offended by the use of the word "tard," as more than a few users have a mentally or physically challenged family member.

Mike at A+
08-18-2011, 08:38 PM
Unless Obama is posting here personally or reading the board (which I doubt), I would gather many more users on this board are offended by the use of the word "tard," as more than a few users have a mentally or physically challenged family member.
And some of us have ex-wives to whom we refer as that other word. :D

Valuist
08-18-2011, 11:20 PM
STFU, ya big dummy


Seriously, can you believe the arrogance of this "D" student ... trying to give the Fed Chairman job advice?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20092885-503544.html


LMAO

Between Commander Bachmann and this yahoo, the election season promises to be a veritable whopper-fest...

Based on the track record of Bernanke, yes I can imagine a lot of people wanting to give him advice. He is clearly clueless and hell bent of the destruction of the US dollar. Have you seen the price of gold in the past few years? WHy do you think that is, just demand from India?? Connect the dots Ronnie.

Valuist
08-18-2011, 11:23 PM
Here is the correct answer.
The Know Nothing Party formed circa 1850.
The Tea Party Formed circa 2009. It is a political party regardless of what Tom thinks.
The Know Nothing Party opposed immigration, particularly Irish and German Catholic immigrants.
The Tea Party opposes immigration particularly from Mexico.
The Know Nothing Party believed that ALL office holders should be natural born citizens; Federal, State and Local.
The Tea Party believes the current President is not a natural born citizen,
The Know Nothing Party was afraid that the pope was going to impose papal law on the United States.
The Tea Party is terrified that the caliphate is going to impose Sharia Law.
Members of the Know Nothing Party knew nothing of the existence of the Tea Party.
Members of the Tea Party know nothing of the existence of the Know Nothing Party.
One of the groups has an excuse. :rolleyes:

Typical liberal comment. You libs have no idea what the tea party stands for, who makes it up, and when it started.